What comes to mind for me is jabbing out. It's a great way to finish an exchange and escape clean after an exchange but I don't see it often. Nacho seems to teach it and a younger Hatton used it. But I don't seem to see it often.
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What comes to mind for me is jabbing out. It's a great way to finish an exchange and escape clean after an exchange but I don't see it often. Nacho seems to teach it and a younger Hatton used it. But I don't seem to see it often.
Double and triple jabbing, particularly amongst pressure fighters and swarmers.
Just because you're not a slickster, doesn't mean you have to lead with your head and come in with a power punch. Jake Lamotta really had a lot of success doing this against SRR, he'd bore in by flicking the double/triple jab and then dig to the body or the head, often throwing the left hook off of the last jab.
I agree 100% with jabbing out, too. It's always beautiful to see a guy land a good combo on the inside and then jab as he's stepping out. It usually lands because at that point the opponent thinks the attack is over and the hands are just coming down.
The jab is the best weapon and it won the fight for Mattysse because he kept on using inside. Excellent performance from him. Remember Israel Vasquez had a great jab and got him out of trouble when hurt a number of times. McCallum had a brilliant jab too.
I also like fighters who finish combinations with a left hook. It is a safe way to finish a combination and Terry Noriss used it often.
That's funny I was thinking about the left hook as I read your post. How most people have shortened the jab, straight right, left hook combination to exclude the left hook. From a safety perspective I understand that but both should be employed at the proper times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I was never coached to use the jab, straight, left hook. Do you escape left generally, turn and reset?
Yes, all the great trainers insisted on it for that reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
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Originally Posted by MasterYes, all the great trainers insisted on it for that reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
That was one of the first real combinations other than a one-two that I was taught. And forced to practice it regularly. But that was 25 years ago.
Right on about the jab in general. Seems like a lot of it today is flick jab, throw away jabs to blind but you don't see a lot of stabbing to the boby, hard double jabbing to offset a guy. As simplistic as it sounds..basic combination punching and we need less of this trap boxing..setting up for the big counters prematurely. Fire before the smoke even churns.
I was told a jab can be hard, fast, soft, range finder, stay busy, type action. It is the first thing a tired fighters forgets.
Another thing regarding the jab you don't see much is changing up the speed to avoid getting timed. Being Canadian I am forced by law to watch hockey. I remember reading an article by an opponent of Wayne Gretzky saying that he would seem to be skating at a certain pace and as soon as you think you have him timed for a check or whatever he suddenly shifts gears one way or another before you even get there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Floyd times the jab with a fast right hand over the top perfectly.Quote:
Originally Posted by frasdAnother thing regarding the jab you don't see much is changing up the speed to avoid getting timed. Being Canadian I am forced by law to watch hockey. I remember reading an article by an opponent of Wayne Gretzky saying that he would seem to be skating at a certain pace and as soon as you think you have him timed for a check or whatever he suddenly shifts gears one way or another before you even get there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
The bob & weave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
It's a lost art that is sorely missing...especially at heavyweight.
If that style were still being used we would not be stuck with those dead ass lumbering heavyweights.
Alex Lepai did not have basis head movement against Wlad.Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneThe bob & weave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
It's a lost art that is sorely missing...especially at heavyweight.
If that style were still being used we would not be stuck with those dead ass lumbering heavyweights.
None of them have basic head movement.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterAlex Lepai did not have basis head movement against Wlad.Quote:
Originally Posted by cycloneThe bob & weave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
It's a lost art that is sorely missing...especially at heavyweight.
If that style were still being used we would not be stuck with those dead ass lumbering heavyweights.
Bob and Weaving is too gruelling for today's fighters to master.
Too bad because it works best against guys that pull straight back like Vlad...Vitali...and Lewis.
....yup, it's oh so simple to beat those guys :rolleyes:
"Just bob & weave"
Yeah don't worry about reach, timing, the other fighter closing you down and tying you up, just "bob & weave" it's too simple
Leapai didn't move his head, but even if he did his hands were way too slow. Guys have attempted to bob & weave vs all those big heavyweights and more often than not it doesn't work because those big heavyweights are also smart, they know their weaknesses and they cover them up strategically.