Lost to Margarito
Beat Corrales
Lost to Pacman
Beat up Mundine
Split loss to Cotto
DQ loss to Baldomir
Where do we put him in this Jr. LM mix?
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Lost to Margarito
Beat Corrales
Lost to Pacman
Beat up Mundine
Split loss to Cotto
DQ loss to Baldomir
Where do we put him in this Jr. LM mix?
I dislike Clottey for his miserable effort against Manny Pac. That was so bad he did not deserve another pay day.
But he WAS fighting Manny. Not exactly an easy feat. Ya know? You made it seem as if he had opened up he would have won, or something like that??!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
The only thing Josh would have gotten was what Cotto, Rios, Margarito and Mosely got- either knocked out or beat up in the face so, so badly that he would need reconstructive surgery.
But it was a lame effort and you get one opportunity to be a superstar and he did not take it. The other fighters you mentioned deserve their money.
Does Floyd really earn every dollar he makes? He fought Manny... I can give him a pass on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I really like Clotty - fantastic defence - very very underated.
But as Master said - he did not take his big opportunities - and he did not come out of his (admittedly very very good) defensive shell when he was way behind on points - it's a shame.
Having said that I thought he beat Cotto.
I wish he could have fought a true knockout artist - just to see if they could put a dent in him
I thought the fight against Margie was shameful. He had that fight if he had any desire to be great. But no, he would rather protect himself
To me he is just a disappointment. He has a mentality to just cover up as soon a punch arrive. I mean, to be great and win you have to take some shots in the noggin to deliver one that will change your career forever and enshrine you in the IBHOF.
Count me in.Quote:
Originally Posted by oakleyno1
Just saw that he is on undercard of Canelo v Kirkland tomorrow night. Taking on Jorge Silva who is by all accounts shot to shat in very short order. If HBO airs this they should be embarrassed
He's a very good fighter and physically a tank, but he doesn't have the will to be a top guy and it makes him really frustrating to watch. If he felt punches a bit more than he did(basically not at all), he'd probably be the type to quit on his stool. Agree about his fights with Margarito and Pacquiao, but I did think he could have got the nod over Cotto, and he looked pretty good taking Mundine apart a while back. Seems likely he'd be Canelos next opponent after they both win their gimme's tomorrow, not sure I care to see that.
Clottey won today, don't think hbo showed it, they are showing some old guys duking it out from last week
He didn't fight Manny, he was just a punch bag with legs!