Roy Jones Jr.’s<br>Long Goodbye
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What a brilliantly written article. Just fantastic and very moving which provided a superb insight into Roy Jones.
Things that interested me were his knees are shot, his dad physically abused him to be the best, Roy wanted desperately to fight Tyson,
Yeah I welled up a few times reading it. Bleacher is not known for their writing prowess but this is surly a gem.
Roy has major dad issues that make Mayweathers story look like an episode of the Walton's.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
Old fighters don’t fade away,” the late Budd Schulberg wrote. “They just slowly die in front of our eyes.”
My bad didnt know you had posted this link already.Quote:
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But ye, I guess the moral of the story is, do what you loved until it kills you or you die. Glad to read that he has no money issues. I feel for his family.
Id love for roy to just comment on hbo and stop fighting, but whatever...his life
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Originally Posted by chris6878My bad didnt know you had posted this link already.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
But ye, I guess the moral of the story is, do what you loved until it kills you or you die. Glad to read that he has no money issues. I feel for his family.
Id love for roy to just comment on hbo and stop fighting, but whatever...his life
Ah no sweat man.
Gives a nice inward look at Roy. He's the best fighter I have ever seen with my own eyes.
The point he made about being the hardest working boxer ever was really hard hitting. He said he is not just reflex, speed and skill because a lot of fighters can have that but working hard makes him different to them. Roy worked harder that Toney and Hopkins and beat them easy, they were great fighters but Roy is a legend.
Have to disagree with you here, Master (respectfully, of course!). Roy worked very hard, but Hop's work ethic is legendary. Roy was far more physically gifted than Hop, and that is what led to him beating Hop the first time around.Quote:
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Also, I can't see an argument for placing Roy over Hop historically. Hop accomplished much more and beat MUCH tougher competition (mostly while past his prime). On Roy's best night he was an ATG fighter, without a doubt. That being said, he let his prime slip away without many meaningful fights and will never be placed as high as he or his fans feel he should be (historical ranking).
I agree that Roy out worked and was the greater fighter than Toney, however. Roy outclassed James head to head, and made that fight look easy. Roy was also much more consistent and always in fighting shape, where James REALLY loved fast food joints at midnight....
Same here.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuitQuote:
Originally Posted by chris6878My bad didnt know you had posted this link already.Quote:
Originally Posted by IamInuit
But ye, I guess the moral of the story is, do what you loved until it kills you or you die. Glad to read that he has no money issues. I feel for his family.
Id love for roy to just comment on hbo and stop fighting, but whatever...his life
Ah no sweat man.
Gives a nice inward look at Roy. He's the best fighter I have ever seen with my own eyes.
He deserved to retire much sooner n have a "Babe Ruth" (the movie) ending.
"You're the best...you're the best there's ever been."
Roy indeed stayed in shape, sacrificed.
But Mikeod said it best when comparing Bhop.
I like B Hop but Roy was better and has achieved greater things when he won a version of the heavyweight belt and was the best at middle, supermiddle and light heavy limits.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeeodHave to disagree with you here, Master (respectfully, of course!). Roy worked very hard, but Hop's work ethic is legendary. Roy was far more physically gifted than Hop, and that is what led to him beating Hop the first time around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Also, I can't see an argument for placing Roy over Hop historically. Hop accomplished much more and beat MUCH tougher competition (mostly while past his prime). On Roy's best night he was an ATG fighter, without a doubt. That being said, he let his prime slip away without many meaningful fights and will never be placed as high as he or his fans feel he should be (historical ranking).
I agree that Roy out worked and was the greater fighter than Toney, however. Roy outclassed James head to head, and made that fight look easy. Roy was also much more consistent and always in fighting shape, where James REALLY loved fast food joints at midnight....
Hopkins was too dirty in the ring. Headbutts, low blows, hip punches, hitting on the break, faking injury--ALWAYS deliberate.
Roy was class. Hopkins a bitch pussy cheat.
Also worth saying Roy Jones started boxing seriously as a child. Hopkins didn't(could be wrong here) until he was 20 something and in prison. Not saying Roy wasn't a good deal more physically gifted either, but lots of that had to come from having spent his entire life training. At the time they fought, he had clearly worked much harder, nobody is that much of a natural in a boxing ring.