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    Default Re: Roy Jones. Great read

    Quote Originally Posted by chris6878 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Yeah I welled up a few times reading it. Bleacher is not known for their writing prowess but this is surly a gem.
    My bad didnt know you had posted this link already.

    But ye, I guess the moral of the story is, do what you loved until it kills you or you die. Glad to read that he has no money issues. I feel for his family.

    Id love for roy to just comment on hbo and stop fighting, but whatever...his life

    Ah no sweat man.

    Gives a nice inward look at Roy. He's the best fighter I have ever seen with my own eyes.

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    The point he made about being the hardest working boxer ever was really hard hitting. He said he is not just reflex, speed and skill because a lot of fighters can have that but working hard makes him different to them. Roy worked harder that Toney and Hopkins and beat them easy, they were great fighters but Roy is a legend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    The point he made about being the hardest working boxer ever was really hard hitting. He said he is not just reflex, speed and skill because a lot of fighters can have that but working hard makes him different to them. Roy worked harder that Toney and Hopkins and beat them easy, they were great fighters but Roy is a legend.
    Have to disagree with you here, Master (respectfully, of course!). Roy worked very hard, but Hop's work ethic is legendary. Roy was far more physically gifted than Hop, and that is what led to him beating Hop the first time around.

    Also, I can't see an argument for placing Roy over Hop historically. Hop accomplished much more and beat MUCH tougher competition (mostly while past his prime). On Roy's best night he was an ATG fighter, without a doubt. That being said, he let his prime slip away without many meaningful fights and will never be placed as high as he or his fans feel he should be (historical ranking).

    I agree that Roy out worked and was the greater fighter than Toney, however. Roy outclassed James head to head, and made that fight look easy. Roy was also much more consistent and always in fighting shape, where James REALLY loved fast food joints at midnight....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    The point he made about being the hardest working boxer ever was really hard hitting. He said he is not just reflex, speed and skill because a lot of fighters can have that but working hard makes him different to them. Roy worked harder that Toney and Hopkins and beat them easy, they were great fighters but Roy is a legend.
    Have to disagree with you here, Master (respectfully, of course!). Roy worked very hard, but Hop's work ethic is legendary. Roy was far more physically gifted than Hop, and that is what led to him beating Hop the first time around.

    Also, I can't see an argument for placing Roy over Hop historically. Hop accomplished much more and beat MUCH tougher competition (mostly while past his prime). On Roy's best night he was an ATG fighter, without a doubt. That being said, he let his prime slip away without many meaningful fights and will never be placed as high as he or his fans feel he should be (historical ranking).

    I agree that Roy out worked and was the greater fighter than Toney, however. Roy outclassed James head to head, and made that fight look easy. Roy was also much more consistent and always in fighting shape, where James REALLY loved fast food joints at midnight....
    I like B Hop but Roy was better and has achieved greater things when he won a version of the heavyweight belt and was the best at middle, supermiddle and light heavy limits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    The point he made about being the hardest working boxer ever was really hard hitting. He said he is not just reflex, speed and skill because a lot of fighters can have that but working hard makes him different to them. Roy worked harder that Toney and Hopkins and beat them easy, they were great fighters but Roy is a legend.
    Have to disagree with you here, Master (respectfully, of course!). Roy worked very hard, but Hop's work ethic is legendary. Roy was far more physically gifted than Hop, and that is what led to him beating Hop the first time around.

    Also, I can't see an argument for placing Roy over Hop historically. Hop accomplished much more and beat MUCH tougher competition (mostly while past his prime). On Roy's best night he was an ATG fighter, without a doubt. That being said, he let his prime slip away without many meaningful fights and will never be placed as high as he or his fans feel he should be (historical ranking).

    I agree that Roy out worked and was the greater fighter than Toney, however. Roy outclassed James head to head, and made that fight look easy. Roy was also much more consistent and always in fighting shape, where James REALLY loved fast food joints at midnight....
    I like B Hop but Roy was better and has achieved greater things when he won a version of the heavyweight belt and was the best at middle, supermiddle and light heavy limits.
    Once again, I think that is up for debate. Roy never cleaned out any division he was in, and missed a TON of competition at 168. His accomplishment of winning a title at 160 and heavyweight was impressive, but was also put into perspective when a fat James Toney beat the same John Ruiz for a title. Roy's quality of opposition kills him in my opinion, and it is difficult for me to see ranking him higher than Hop considering Hop's superior quality of competition, middleweight reign, first to unify all titles, and age records.

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    Roy was the best fighter most of us have ever seen and we are boxing nerds so that says it all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Roy was the best fighter most of us have ever seen and we are boxing nerds so that says it all.
    Maybe I'm just jealous of his prime physique....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Roy was the best fighter most of us have ever seen and we are boxing nerds so that says it all.
    Lol

    Precisely! He was the best. We all fucking know it. No one comes close in modern times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by chris6878 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Yeah I welled up a few times reading it. Bleacher is not known for their writing prowess but this is surly a gem.
    My bad didnt know you had posted this link already.

    But ye, I guess the moral of the story is, do what you loved until it kills you or you die. Glad to read that he has no money issues. I feel for his family.

    Id love for roy to just comment on hbo and stop fighting, but whatever...his life

    Ah no sweat man.

    Gives a nice inward look at Roy. He's the best fighter I have ever seen with my own eyes.
    Same here.

    He deserved to retire much sooner n have a "Babe Ruth" (the movie) ending.

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    Default Re: Roy Jones. Great read

    Roy indeed stayed in shape, sacrificed.

    But Mikeod said it best when comparing Bhop.
    All's lost! Everything's going to shit!

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