Canelo v Khan or GGG v Brooks?
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Canelo v Khan or GGG v Brooks?
Both are fucking pathetic. This era sucks
You know what, I thought you were just a sour boxing fan but I am beginning to see what you see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
I just can not defend this fight and GGG choosing Brook. It is just wrong. GGG should have said to Hearn, "have you get another middleweight?".
At least the GGG fight is at middleweight and not some catchweight.
It is fucking ridiculous now though
we have Crawford v Postol in a few weeks, at least that is a real fight
Both are pretty bad but Khan Canelo was worse
It was at a catchweight being billed as for the middleweight between a paper champ and a guy who had multiple losses below 147 moving up two weights.
Golovkin brook is at 160 between the number 1 middleweight and the number 1 welter. Both are unbeaten world champs.
If brook had a bunch of losses too and didn't hold a title then the fight would be just as bad as Canelo Khan
I just want good fights. I'm the same in all sports, play the best, fight the best, if you win great, if you lose at least you tried.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterYou know what, I thought you were just a sour boxing fan but I am beginning to see what you see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
I just can not defend this fight and GGG choosing Brook. It is just wrong. GGG should have said to Hearn, "have you get another middleweight?".
Sober up. Moving from 147 to 160 is a tradition. Ask Mickey Walker, Carmen Basilio and Ray Robinson. Ask Felix Trinidad and Oscar Dr La Hoya.
If guys don't switch weight classes you call them out on that too.
Oscar DeLaHoya and Tito campaigned at 154, became champions at 154, became champions at 160 before taking on the best in the world at 160. But let's forget their far superior accomplishments at higher weights. Let's point out how these don't compare even at 147(like the other examples don't compare), Oscar and Tito had fought many good fighters at 147 and even great fighters. Fighters taller and with longer reach than the 5'9" Brook with a tiny 69" reach. Brook has the 5th or even 6th best American WW as his only significant fight. The only one.
"I just want good fights. I'm the same in all sports, play the best, fight the best, if you win great, if you lose at least you tried." - I agree with this 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
But I would be interested to see you name 5 better current American WW's than Porter?
Mayweather, Thurman, Spence, those I am confident about. Bradley has done far more. That puts Porter at 5th. Vargas might be better now too though. Tough to say. But I am confident that Porter is at best 4th, at worst 6th today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera"I just want good fights. I'm the same in all sports, play the best, fight the best, if you win great, if you lose at least you tried." - I agree with this 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
But I would be interested to see you name 5 better current American WW's than Porter?
ThurmanQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera"I just want good fights. I'm the same in all sports, play the best, fight the best, if you win great, if you lose at least you tried." - I agree with this 100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
But I would be interested to see you name 5 better current American WW's than Porter?
Garcia
Bradley
Vargas
Spence
Oops, I forgot Garcia. Maybe him too.
147 champs have always tried 160. It meant more with same day weigh ins. Now, the welter champ weighs 165 in the ring. He is already a middle.
Porter ices Garcia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Swanson
Both are bad but canelo khan is worse. The reasoning is that it was specifically billed as a huge fight and was primarily made. It wasn't a backup plan. GGG at least had the desire to fight a middleweight but eubank ducked out so GGG picked a welter to fight. And Brook is seen as maybe the best welter while khan was closer to the 10th best welter.
With all that said, it's unfortunate that this is the fight we get.