Which fight is worse?

[Primo Carnera]

Oscar DeLaHoya and Tito campaigned at 154, became champions at 154, became champions at 160 before taking on the best in the world at 160. But let's forget their far superior accomplishments at higher weights. Let's point out how these don't compare even at 147(like the other examples don't compare), Oscar and Tito had fought many good fighters at 147 and even great fighters. Fighters taller and with longer reach than the 5'9" Brook with a tiny 69" reach. Brook has the 5th or even 6th best American WW as his only significant fight. The only one.

"I just want good fights. I'm the same in all sports, play the best, fight the best, if you win great, if you lose at least you tried." - I agree with this 100%.

But I would be interested to see you name 5 better current American WW's than Porter?

[Ron Swanson]

Oscar DeLaHoya and Tito campaigned at 154, became champions at 154, became champions at 160 before taking on the best in the world at 160. But let's forget their far superior accomplishments at higher weights. Let's point out how these don't compare even at 147(like the other examples don't compare), Oscar and Tito had fought many good fighters at 147 and even great fighters. Fighters taller and with longer reach than the 5'9" Brook with a tiny 69" reach. Brook has the 5th or even 6th best American WW as his only significant fight. The only one.

"I just want good fights. I'm the same in all sports, play the best, fight the best, if you win great, if you lose at least you tried." - I agree with this 100%.

But I would be interested to see you name 5 better current American WW's than Porter?

Mayweather, Thurman, Spence, those I am confident about. Bradley has done far more. That puts Porter at 5th. Vargas might be better now too though. Tough to say. But I am confident that Porter is at best 4th, at worst 6th today.

[Primo Carnera]

Oscar DeLaHoya and Tito campaigned at 154, became champions at 154, became champions at 160 before taking on the best in the world at 160. But let's forget their far superior accomplishments at higher weights. Let's point out how these don't compare even at 147(like the other examples don't compare), Oscar and Tito had fought many good fighters at 147 and even great fighters. Fighters taller and with longer reach than the 5'9" Brook with a tiny 69" reach. Brook has the 5th or even 6th best American WW as his only significant fight. The only one.

"I just want good fights. I'm the same in all sports, play the best, fight the best, if you win great, if you lose at least you tried." - I agree with this 100%.

But I would be interested to see you name 5 better current American WW's than Porter?

Mayweather, Thurman, Spence, those I am confident about. Bradley has done far more. That puts Porter at 5th. Vargas might be better now too though. Tough to say. But I am confident that Porter is at best 4th, at worst 6th today.

Mayweather - ex-Boxer . Retired and staying that way.
Thurman - yes
Spence - Maybe, uncertain at the moment, but certainly in the future.
Bradley - gonna say yes because I've got a soft spot for him, but you yanks are always writing him off.
Vargas - don't think so.
Garcia - who can tell? He doesn't really fight much nowadays does he?
So being devil's advocate , you could say only Thurman. But I'm not going to argue too strongly about it, it's all about opinions.

[Primo Carnera]

In answer to the original question, I voted for Canelo v Khan being worse, only because there was a 20lb weight difference on the night, and with the IBF 10lb ruling, that's probably not going to be the case this time.
But at the same time, I have to be consistent and say I don't like the idea of GGG fighting someone 2 weights below.
If the MW's haven't got the balls to step up to the plate, then now is probably the right time to consider his work done at the weight and challenge himself by moving up.

[Spicoli]

Split down the middle honestly. Khan was in all actuality dented, vulnerable and seemingly clinging to that elusive "event" what ever the cost. On the other side we knew Canelo was a con at middle. An imposter. Basically lowered expectations. With Golovkin he was the adult in the room when Cotto and Canelo came up at middleweight. He was respected and held to higher standards. I don't begrudge a guy a payday but this is only duplicating Canelos cash grab. Brook is a helluva fighter really banking on a single high profile win who himself has already rebounded in a foty candidate with Thurman. The no in between or credible build to division is what gets me. Many of the top guys named at least made pit stops at 154 while some who did not were knocked senseless.

[Addicted to_boxing]

Split down the middle honestly. Khan was in all actuality dented, vulnerable and seemingly clinging to that elusive "event" what ever the cost. On the other side we knew Canelo was a con at middle. An imposter. Basically lowered expectations. With Golovkin he was the adult in the room when Cotto and Canelo came up at middleweight. He was respected and held to higher standards. I don't begrudge a guy a payday but this is only duplicating Canelos cash grab. Brook is a helluva fighter really banking on a single high profile win who himself has already rebounded in a foty candidate with Thurman. The no in between or credible build to division is what gets me. Many of the top guys named at least made pit stops at 154 while some who did not were knocked senseless.

Khan was schooling Canelo and had he won a decision you would not use such fodder . It is obvious you dislike Canelo. As Danny DeVito says "Garbage"' " I'm the trash man!

[Spicoli]

Split down the middle honestly. Khan was in all actuality dented, vulnerable and seemingly clinging to that elusive "event" what ever the cost. On the other side we knew Canelo was a con at middle. An imposter. Basically lowered expectations. With Golovkin he was the adult in the room when Cotto and Canelo came up at middleweight. He was respected and held to higher standards. I don't begrudge a guy a payday but this is only duplicating Canelos cash grab. Brook is a helluva fighter really banking on a single high profile win who himself has already rebounded in a foty candidate with Thurman. The no in between or credible build to division is what gets me. Many of the top guys named at least made pit stops at 154 while some who did not were knocked senseless.

Khan was schooling Canelo and had he won a decision you would not use such fodder . It is obvious you dislike Canelo. As Danny DeVito says "Garbage"' " I'm the trash man!

What school was that, clown College? Everyone with functional gray matter knew that farce was a matter of time not "if". Canelo is a spoiled lil tart and what he and Golovkin have in common now is needing smaller less proven fighters to bank on and ride the push afterwards. Its a joke. Oh and DeVito hasn't had a hit movie in years and was funniest while intoxicated on David Lettermans show . FACT!

[Addicted to_boxing]

In answer to the original question, I voted for Canelo v Khan being worse, only because there was a 20lb weight difference on the night, and with the IBF 10lb ruling, that's probably not going to be the case this time.
But at the same time, I have to be consistent and say I don't like the idea of GGG fighting someone 2 weights below.
If the MW's haven't got the balls to step up to the plate, then now is probably the right time to consider his work done at the weight and challenge himself by moving up.

Be real..... 10 years as a professional with no key win or Marque opponent. 10 years without taking a risk beating all opponents in a weak ass division . This has you believing he has a leg to negotiate with vs. Canelo? This looks like a major cherry picking career!

Work done absolutely, time to fight top notch opponents one level up or one level down. Lara or Canelo at 155 now that you forfeited what was your only leverage point PG-GG rated champion

[J_Undisputed]

Since my initial disappointment. Some info was brought up in a interview with Abel Sanchez, about the choice of brook. That info being that the available date was already preset by HBO as September 10. When canelo fell through, and they went and tried to get eubank and it looked like it could come to fruition even as having to line up the fighters, the network rights for televising, and everything else. Then Eubank prices himself out by trying to write his own ticket and control the promotion (probably wanted a pony and some candy and hookers too). Anyway. with that negotiation falling through and GGG already agreeing to the terms... Brook stepped up and accepted the same agreement that Eubank tried to skirt around. No modifications, no renegotiating .. he took it as is.

Im sure GGG would rather fight a middleweight (Jacobs, canelo, eubank, Saunders, and whoever else hes tried to get to sign in the past, but with the time running short for the fight to get a full camp in, they took whoever stepped up. That was brook. If they chose not to it could have been another month of negotiating just to lock in an opponent for a unified champ (by default) whos holding all the keys. Only other person close to the weight in matchroom is Degale whos up 8 lbs and probably would have demanded parity and not would have signed right away. So if brook is the only one who is brave enough to sign the contract, with an inch difference in reach and a inch and half difference in height. He should have have too much trouble packing on the 13lbs.

Its the next fight that will be an issue if GGG gets past brook. Screw Eubank, Screw Canelo and screw jacobs, press saunders and get him to give up the belt or fight for it. Be officially unified and move up unless a charlo, andrade who whoever moves up. this is getting stupid... professionally fighters having an opportunity to fight the man in the division are like .... "nahhh, that's okay..." which pretty much makes them hobbyists...

So im disappointed its brook, but brook and and matchroom chose GGG, not the other way around. with the date set and time constraints on prep, he really doesn't have much choice to accept. Its not like he ducked a unification fight and then sought out brook as a tune up, which is the difference between him and cañelo...

[Primo Carnera]

In answer to the original question, I voted for Canelo v Khan being worse, only because there was a 20lb weight difference on the night, and with the IBF 10lb ruling, that's probably not going to be the case this time.
But at the same time, I have to be consistent and say I don't like the idea of GGG fighting someone 2 weights below.
If the MW's haven't got the balls to step up to the plate, then now is probably the right time to consider his work done at the weight and challenge himself by moving up.

Be real..... 10 years as a professional with no key win or Marque opponent. 10 years without taking a risk beating all opponents in a weak ass division . This has you believing he has a leg to negotiate with vs. Canelo? This looks like a major cherry picking career!

Work done absolutely, time to fight top notch opponents one level up or one level down. Lara or Canelo at 155 now that you forfeited what was your only leverage point PG-GG rated champion

Ha. You ask me to be real? Do you honestly think GGG has cherry picked opponents?
You do know there is a difference between cherry picking and being avoided?
And then you say that perhaps he should go down in weight ? No doubt you would then accuse him of being a bully, he can't win with you.
And you ask me to be real?😂
I've already acknowledged that the time has come for him to move up because nobody in the division will fight him.

[TitoFan]

I answered both because in the end both fights are equally as ridiculous. Although as far as motivation behind the fights, I find Canelo-Khan much worse. Canelo fought Khan in the process of avoiding GGG like the ginger-haired pu$$y he is. GGG's motivation, I can only guess, is frustration at the growing criticism that he isn't facing any big names, and the biggest name out there for him to face is running from him at full sprint.

[TitoFan]

In answer to the original question, I voted for Canelo v Khan being worse, only because there was a 20lb weight difference on the night, and with the IBF 10lb ruling, that's probably not going to be the case this time.
But at the same time, I have to be consistent and say I don't like the idea of GGG fighting someone 2 weights below.
If the MW's haven't got the balls to step up to the plate, then now is probably the right time to consider his work done at the weight and challenge himself by moving up.

Be real..... 10 years as a professional with no key win or Marque opponent. 10 years without taking a risk beating all opponents in a weak ass division . This has you believing he has a leg to negotiate with vs. Canelo? This looks like a major cherry picking career!

Work done absolutely, time to fight top notch opponents one level up or one level down. Lara or Canelo at 155 now that you forfeited what was your only leverage point PG-GG rated champion

Ha. You ask me to be real? Do you honestly think GGG has cherry picked opponents?
You do know there is a difference between cherry picking and being avoided?
And then you say that perhaps he should go down in weight ? No doubt you would then accuse him of being a bully, he can't win with you.
And you ask me to be real?😂
I've already acknowledged that the time has come for him to move up because nobody in the division will fight him.

Agreed. Not only that... but the argument regarding "the right to negotiate with Canelo" is nothing but a B.S. excuse to justify Canelo's shameful avoiding of GGG. Bottom line... both are equally sized fighters perfectly suited to face off at 160. I'm sure GGG would accept any reasonable offer that was put on the table by Canelo's team. Unfortunately, hell will freeze over before that happens.

[Master]

Oscar DeLaHoya and Tito campaigned at 154, became champions at 154, became champions at 160 before taking on the best in the world at 160. But let's forget their far superior accomplishments at higher weights. Let's point out how these don't compare even at 147(like the other examples don't compare), Oscar and Tito had fought many good fighters at 147 and even great fighters. Fighters taller and with longer reach than the 5'9" Brook with a tiny 69" reach. Brook has the 5th or even 6th best American WW as his only significant fight. The only one.

"I just want good fights. I'm the same in all sports, play the best, fight the best, if you win great, if you lose at least you tried." - I agree with this 100%.

But I would be interested to see you name 5 better current American WW's than Porter?

Thurman
Garcia
Bradley
Vargas
Spence

[Ron Swanson]

Oops, I forgot Garcia. Maybe him too.

[Silkeyjoe]

Oops, I forgot Garcia. Maybe him too.

Porter ices Garcia.