Let's define a Robbery...

Let's Stop crying Robbery..

Too much moaning about last nights fight when the corrupt judge made the mistake in the wide scores but not the choice of opponent.

Do you consider any of these recent fights a robbery?

Pac vs Bradley 1?
Pac vs Horn?
Ward vs Kovalev 1?
Degale vs Jack?!

In all your saddo experience as a fan or boxer, what fights have you seen that has been a complete and utter robbery that have left you completely disgusted.

Give me a breakdown of your definition of what makes a robbery in a boxing match.

Erislandy Lara vs Paul Williams

Nicolas Walters vs Jason Sosa

Joel Casamayor vs Jose Santa Cruz

Evander Holyfield vs Lennox Lewis 1

Bernard Hopkins vs Jermain Taylor 1

Canelo having 10 rounds won against GGG is corrupt.

The fight between GGG and Canelo was close I had it 8-4 but it could be 7-5. That is close not a robbery.

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Originally Posted by Master

Canelo having 10 rounds won against GGG is corrupt.

The fight between GGG and Canelo was close I had it 8-4 but it could be 7-5. That is close not a robbery.

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Completely agree, the actual result is not a robbery it is the scorecard of Adelaide Byrd that is the problem.

It is the fact that people have been calling her out for her bullshit cards for over 10 years and nothing has been done.

It is the fact that fighters try to get her removed from their fights as a judge

It is the fact that Abel Sanchez raised the issue before the fight yet this still happened

It is the fact that the NSAC have defended her and said she 'Had an off night'

It is the fact that Oscar says 'She has been scoring fights accurately for years and the only winner of the night was boxing

I'm not one to scream robbery when a decision doesn't go how I want but it pisses me off when someone is as blatantly corrupt as her.

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Originally Posted by Master

Canelo having 10 rounds won against GGG is corrupt.

The fight between GGG and Canelo was close I had it 8-4 but it could be 7-5. That is close not a robbery.

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My point on robbery in Vagas GGG had a cat in hells chance of getting a points win it was stacked against him the ginger monster was made out to be something he was not.!
The build up was in my eyes very much Canelo and GGG was playing the understudy in a rematch GGG will catch him and hurt him Canelo punches had very little affect on GGG simple.
Vagas is a bad place to get a fair decision plenty of bad ones,! it was a City built by mobsters and it remains corrupt I was pissed off because I new it would be a screw job.

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Originally Posted by Master

Canelo having 10 rounds won against GGG is corrupt.

The fight between GGG and Canelo was close I had it 8-4 but it could be 7-5. That is close not a robbery.

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I agree on the 7-5...it was close.

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Originally Posted by Master

Canelo having 10 rounds won against GGG is corrupt.

The fight between GGG and Canelo was close I had it 8-4 but it could be 7-5. That is close not a robbery.

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I agree on the 7-5...it was close.

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Looking at the official scores that Batman put on here all 3 judges had Canelo winning the first 2 and the last 3 rounds. So that does make the fight close.

The fact that the corrupt judge had Canelo winning every round from 8 to 12 is a joke. the other 2 judges had GGG winning 8 and 9.

I think that there is a fine line between a controversy and a robbery, a dubious decision and a really bad decision. A fine line, but a line nonetheless.

I can accept very well that sometimees, a judge will give all the tight rounds to one of the two boxers, even though I strongly disagree. Fine.


But when a judge makes a TOTAL miscalculation by such a wide margin as 118-110, it's absolutely scancalous. Canelo was nowhere near to "perhaps win". If we're VERY generous to Alvarez, losing 115-113 is acceptable. A draw? pretty dubious but let's call it a dubious decision. 118-110? I can't believe I've ever seen such score for that fight.

On the Pac vs Horn fight, the three judges scoring the fight 117-111, 115-113 and 115-113 to the Australian after 12 rounds...I felt that was Bob arum keeping all the money in House and making rematches under his own greedy banner..plus it was in homegrown soil in Australia.

The judge was completely wrong in the fight last night which is something we can All agree on...BUT if that same judge made it 115-113 for Canelo I still don't see a robbery.

Here's a simple way to understand the difference between the GGG robbery and the Pac-Horn "robbery."

The vast majority (95%) of people think Golovkin beat Canelo. Pac-Horn was split 50-50. Therefore Golovkin was robbed and Pac wasn't. Popular opinion. Simple.

You should be wondering why you're in the tiny minority that thinks Golovkin lost? You should be re-evaluating your own scoring (motives), what are you missing that everyone else can see, not trying to convince the world that they're wrong.

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Here's a simple way to understand the difference between the GGG robbery and the Pac-Horn "robbery."

The vast majority (95%) of people think Golovkin beat Canelo. Pac-Horn was split 50-50. Therefore Golovkin was robbed and Pac wasn't. Popular opinion. Simple.

You should be wondering why you're in the tiny minority that thinks Golovkin lost? You should be re-evaluating your own scoring (motives), what are you missing that everyone else can see, not trying to convince the world that they're wrong.

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So you're calling the GGG fight a robbery?

Everyone was crying that Pac was robbed at the time..short memories on request.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Here's a simple way to understand the difference between the GGG robbery and the Pac-Horn "robbery."

The vast majority (95%) of people think Golovkin beat Canelo. Pac-Horn was split 50-50. Therefore Golovkin was robbed and Pac wasn't. Popular opinion. Simple.

You should be wondering why you're in the tiny minority that thinks Golovkin lost? You should be re-evaluating your own scoring (motives), what are you missing that everyone else can see, not trying to convince the world that they're wrong.

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So you're calling the GGG fight a robbery?

Everyone was crying that Pac was robbed at the time..short memories on request.

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No, once again, i'll dumb it down even more...

Lots of fans were saying Pac was robbed. He wasn't robbed because lots of other fans thought he lost. It was split 50-50. If 95% had thought Pac won then it would have been a robbery.

How many people have you seen score the fight for Canelo apart from YOU and a couple of trolls? YOU are in the minority. YOUR interpretation of the fight doesn't align with everyone else (no sensible fan/pundit/judge agrees with you). Therefore you should be wondering why you got it so WRONG.

I think you will find that most people are more scarred by the 118-110 score which has intensified the feeling of the result.

If the Judge gave a 115-113 Canelo score would that be more acceptable in your eyes or did you have it wider than that?!

This is going round in circles in many threads.

I just feel Canelo deserves a ton of credit for this fight as everyone was accusing him of ducking and was going to to get knocked out by the bogeyman...Canelo is not to blame for the dodgy judge.

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I think you will find that most people are more scarred by the 118-110 score which has intensified the feeling of the result.

If the Judge gave a 115-113 Canelo score would that be more acceptable in your eyes or did you have it wider than that?!

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It wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference whatever score Canelo "won" by. EVERYONE thought he lost (vast majority/every sensible viewer on the planet). That's the only part that is relevant. Canelo LOST. Golovkin WON.

The ridiculous scorecard disguises the robbery if anything, as it takes attention away from the main factor.

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I just feel Canelo deserves a ton of credit for this fight as everyone was accusing him of ducking and was going to to get knocked out by the bogeyman...Canelo is not to blame for the dodgy judge.

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That's a fair comment.