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    Default Re: Let's define a Robbery...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Here's a simple way to understand the difference between the GGG robbery and the Pac-Horn "robbery."

    The vast majority (95%) of people think Golovkin beat Canelo. Pac-Horn was split 50-50. Therefore Golovkin was robbed and Pac wasn't. Popular opinion. Simple.

    You should be wondering why you're in the tiny minority that thinks Golovkin lost? You should be re-evaluating your own scoring (motives), what are you missing that everyone else can see, not trying to convince the world that they're wrong.
    So you're calling the GGG fight a robbery?

    Everyone was crying that Pac was robbed at the time..short memories on request.

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    Default Re: Let's define a Robbery...

    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Here's a simple way to understand the difference between the GGG robbery and the Pac-Horn "robbery."

    The vast majority (95%) of people think Golovkin beat Canelo. Pac-Horn was split 50-50. Therefore Golovkin was robbed and Pac wasn't. Popular opinion. Simple.

    You should be wondering why you're in the tiny minority that thinks Golovkin lost? You should be re-evaluating your own scoring (motives), what are you missing that everyone else can see, not trying to convince the world that they're wrong.
    So you're calling the GGG fight a robbery?

    Everyone was crying that Pac was robbed at the time..short memories on request.
    No, once again, i'll dumb it down even more...

    Lots of fans were saying Pac was robbed. He wasn't robbed because lots of other fans thought he lost. It was split 50-50. If 95% had thought Pac won then it would have been a robbery.

    How many people have you seen score the fight for Canelo apart from YOU and a couple of trolls? YOU are in the minority. YOUR interpretation of the fight doesn't align with everyone else (no sensible fan/pundit/judge agrees with you). Therefore you should be wondering why you got it so WRONG.
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    Default Re: Let's define a Robbery...

    I think you will find that most people are more scarred by the 118-110 score which has intensified the feeling of the result.

    If the Judge gave a 115-113 Canelo score would that be more acceptable in your eyes or did you have it wider than that?!

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    Default Re: Let's define a Robbery...

    This is going round in circles in many threads.

    I just feel Canelo deserves a ton of credit for this fight as everyone was accusing him of ducking and was going to to get knocked out by the bogeyman...Canelo is not to blame for the dodgy judge.

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    Default Re: Let's define a Robbery...

    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    I just feel Canelo deserves a ton of credit for this fight as everyone was accusing him of ducking and was going to to get knocked out by the bogeyman...Canelo is not to blame for the dodgy judge.
    Also loads of fans said that GGG would get robbed if he didn't score a KO (just look at the main thread, loads of us said it).

    Fans, pundits and writers - Doug Fischer is the editor of The Ring online (works for Golden Boy/Oscar) yet predicted Golovkin will get shafted unless he scores a blowout, Graham Houston, Steve Bunce, Steve Kim etc. They're not even "conspiracy/corruption" wafflers like Teddy Atlas, just, like many fans, knew the house fighter (money man) will be protected by Vegas.
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    Default Re: Let's define a Robbery...

    not very effective pressure from ggg, lots of missed punches, almost amateurish at times, never rocked canelo at all or even hurt him

    ................... not an all time great at all, not even close, choked bad in the last 3 rounds when he needed to really STEP UP AND LET IT ALL HANG OUT

    ********here he was in the Fight of his Life, the fight was close enough that he should have fought his ass off to win it, but instead Canelo OUTHUSTLED his ass in Rounds 10, 11 and 12.

    Marvin Hagler would have found a way to pull that out against a guy like Canelo (who is not exactly the hardest puncher in the world

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    Default Re: Let's define a Robbery...

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
    not very effective pressure from ggg, lots of missed punches, almost amateurish at times, never rocked canelo at all or even hurt him

    ................... not an all time great at all, not even close, choked bad in the last 3 rounds when he needed to really STEP UP AND LET IT ALL HANG OUT

    ********here he was in the Fight of his Life, the fight was close enough that he should have fought his ass off to win it, but instead Canelo OUTHUSTLED his ass in Rounds 10, 11 and 12.

    Marvin Hagler would have found a way to pull that out against a guy like Canelo (who is not exactly the hardest puncher in the world
    Brock, your posts just get more stupider and stupider with each passing day.
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    Default Re: Let's define a Robbery...

    68 collected results from fighters/media

    Lennox Lewis - Golovkin
    Paulie Malignaggi - Golovkin
    Austin Trout - Golovkin
    Enzo Macarenelli - Golovkin
    Terence Crawford - Golovkin
    Liam Smith - Golovkin
    Peter Quillin - Golovkin
    Liam Williams - Golovkin
    Ohara Davies - Golovkin
    Luke Campbell - Golovkin
    Dave Coldwell - Golovkin
    Badou Jack - Golovkin
    Kevin Kelly - Golovkin
    Steve Kim - Golovkin
    Doug Fischer - Golovkin
    Ring TV - Golvokin
    Michael Montero - Golovkin
    Joe Rogan - Golovkin
    Jim Rome (sports broadcaster) - Golovkin
    Kovalev - Golvokin
    Chavez Jr - Golovkin
    Danny Jacobs - Golovkin
    Murat Gassiev - Golovkin
    Ed Robinson - Golovkin
    Spencer Fearon - Golovkin
    Johnny Nelson - Golovkin
    James Brady (SB Nation) - Golovkin
    Rosie Perez - Golovkin
    Lou DiBella - Golovkin
    Tony Jeffries - Golovkin
    Martin Samuel (UK Daily Mail) - Golovkin
    Kenny Porter - Golovkin
    Adam Booth - Golovkin

    Teddy Atlas --------------------------------> 118-110 GGG
    Jeff Powell (UK Daily Mail) ----------------> 118-111 GGG
    Mookie Alexander (Bloody Elbow) --------> 117-111 GGG
    Brian Campbell (CBS) ---------------------> 117-111 GGG
    Jack Rathborn (Mirror UK) ----------------> 117-111 GGG
    Harold Lederman (HBO) ------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Dan Rafael (ESPN) ------------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Bryan Graham (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-112 GGG
    Gareth Davies (UK Telegraph) -----------> 116-112 GGG
    Sergio Martinez ---------------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Amir Khan ---------------------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Matthew Macklin --------------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Steve Lillis (BoxNation) -------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Bob Velin (USA Today) --------------------> 116-112 GGG
    Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) -----------> 116-112 GGG
    Shaun Al-Shatti (MMA Fighting) ----------> 116-112 GGG
    Ryan Frederick (Wrestling Observer) ----> 116-112 GGG
    Patrick Stumberg (MMA Mania) ----------> 116-112 GGG
    Kevin Mitchell (Guardian UK) ------------> 116-113 GGG
    Josh Taylor --------------------------------> 116-113 GGG
    Joshua Bautsi -----------------------------> 116-113 GGG
    Jordan Breen (Sherdog) ------------------> 115-112 GGG
    Caleb Truax -------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Kevin Iole (Yahoo) ------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Gary Locket -------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Will Esco (Bad Left Hook) -----------------> 115-113 GGG
    Phil Murphy (ESPN) -----------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Mike Harris (SI) ---------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Paul Fontaine (Wrestling Observer) ------> 115-113 GGG
    MMA Brazil ---------------------------------> 115-113 GGG
    Sean Sheehan (Severe MMA) -------------> 115-113 GGG
    Rob Tatum (Combat Press) ----------------> 115-113 GGG
    Patrick Wyman (Bleacher Report) ---------> 115-113 GGG
    Joel Diaz ------------------------------------> 115-113 GGG

    De La Hoya - 115-113 Canelo
    Bernard Hopkins - 115-113 Canelo

    Golovkin - 66 votes (97%)
    Canelo - 2 votes (3%)
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    Default Re: Let's define a Robbery...

    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    I think you will find that most people are more scarred by the 118-110 score which has intensified the feeling of the result.

    If the Judge gave a 115-113 Canelo score would that be more acceptable in your eyes or did you have it wider than that?!
    It wouldn't have made a blind bit of difference whatever score Canelo "won" by. EVERYONE thought he lost (vast majority/every sensible viewer on the planet). That's the only part that is relevant. Canelo LOST. Golovkin WON.

    The ridiculous scorecard disguises the robbery if anything, as it takes attention away from the main factor.


    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    I just feel Canelo deserves a ton of credit for this fight as everyone was accusing him of ducking and was going to to get knocked out by the bogeyman...Canelo is not to blame for the dodgy judge.
    That's a fair comment.
    Last edited by Fenster; 09-18-2017 at 11:42 AM.
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    Default Re: Let's define a Robbery...

    Canelo wasn't active enough and GGG wasn't active enough so it was far from a robbery. Golovkin forced the fight but Canelo did the better work, do you like quantity or quality?

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    Default Re: Let's define a Robbery...

    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    Canelo wasn't active enough and GGG wasn't active enough so it was far from a robbery. Golovkin forced the fight but Canelo did the better work, do you like quantity or quality?
    Read Fensters post, the quantity was with GGG and so was the quality.
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    Default Re: Let's define a Robbery...

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GaMo View Post
    Canelo wasn't active enough and GGG wasn't active enough so it was far from a robbery. Golovkin forced the fight but Canelo did the better work, do you like quantity or quality?
    Read Fensters post, the quantity was with GGG and so was the quality.
    I don't need to read his post. I watched the fight and the quality was obviously with Canelo, if you can't see that then you're either blind or stupid (maybe both) GGG was more marked up despite Alvarez wearing winning gloves (aka pillows) that tells you all you need to know.

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    Default Re: Let's define a Robbery...

    It was an excellent fight. Both guys gave everything. Golovkin won the fight, I say 8,4 . The lady judge had other things on her mind other than watching a great fight.
    Shame, it spoiled a great show.

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