Given away the world title is old news..what are his next two fights you would like to see him in?
What has caused his demise?
Be as brutal as you want..what made this world class fighter decline post Badou Jack?..sad times.
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Given away the world title is old news..what are his next two fights you would like to see him in?
What has caused his demise?
Be as brutal as you want..what made this world class fighter decline post Badou Jack?..sad times.
I reckon he gave up his title because he thought he could get 1 maybe decent money fights and get out. maybe Saunders, maybe Eubank Jr., maybe Groves. But let’s look at them one by one.
Saunders- not happening, he’s getting DAZN’s money taking on Andrade. They probably led DeGale to believe it was a possibility, but hey ho.
Groves - he probably thought Groves wouldn’t make the WBSS Final and they would have one last hurrah.gross error of judgement. Now if Groves wins, DeGale gets the 10%-15% that he goaded Groves with a couple of years ago. If Groves loses, the value of the fight goes down.
Eubank Jr. - This could still happen, and the stupidity of people means that they will swallow the hype and make both these guys a nice big earner. Pretty meaningless though.
All in all, DeGale is alright, but he’s made some pretty poor commercial decisions in his career. He’ll think he’s done nicely, but if he had become a champion with Matchroom and stayed with them, he would’ve made a shit load.
DeGale has made good money travelling away from home. He was talking about making £10 million in a year when he was due to fight Badou, Groves, and Smith but he failed to get past Jack.
Jack beat the fighter out of him. Simple
Overall, People like DeGale and Selby , even Frampton, would've all made more money with Matchroom than they have ever made on the road. And let's be honest , they would've been protected better as well. whether that's right or wrong is neither here nor there, it's a cast iron fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Look at what Bellew and Brook have earned for example, and who they had to fight to earn it.
De Gale a lot of money fighting abroad against Dirrell, Medina, Bute and Badou Jack. I am sure it would have been more than at matchroom as well. Yes he may have been better protected but could still have come unstuck with any fighter too. Brook got beat quite severely as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraOverall, People like DeGale and Selby , even Frampton, would've all made more money with Matchroom than they have ever made on the road. And let's be honest , they would've been protected better as well. whether that's right or wrong is neither here nor there, it's a cast iron fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Look at what Bellew and Brook have earned for example, and who they had to fight to earn it.
come on, you know that if DeGale would've fought all those guys over here under Matchroom, they would all be PPV , he would've been hyped up to be some sort of World Beater and would've earned a fortune.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterDe Gale a lot of money fighting abroad against Dirrell, Medina, Bute and Badou Jack. I am sure it would have been more than at matchroom as well. Yes he may have been better protected but could still have come unstuck with any fighter too. Brook got beat quite severely as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraOverall, People like DeGale and Selby , even Frampton, would've all made more money with Matchroom than they have ever made on the road. And let's be honest , they would've been protected better as well. whether that's right or wrong is neither here nor there, it's a cast iron fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Look at what Bellew and Brook have earned for example, and who they had to fight to earn it.
Brook made a killing against GGG, and if he had fought him anywhere else , it wouldn't have been worth his while.
DeGale ppv? No chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carneracome on, you know that if DeGale would've fought all those guys over here under Matchroom, they would all be PPV , he would've been hyped up to be some sort of World Beater and would've earned a fortune.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterDe Gale a lot of money fighting abroad against Dirrell, Medina, Bute and Badou Jack. I am sure it would have been more than at matchroom as well. Yes he may have been better protected but could still have come unstuck with any fighter too. Brook got beat quite severely as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraOverall, People like DeGale and Selby , even Frampton, would've all made more money with Matchroom than they have ever made on the road. And let's be honest , they would've been protected better as well. whether that's right or wrong is neither here nor there, it's a cast iron fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Look at what Bellew and Brook have earned for example, and who they had to fight to earn it.
Brook made a killing against GGG, and if he had fought him anywhere else , it wouldn't have been worth his while.
So fucking Naive! I’m talking about DeGale of a few years ago . A World Champion , Olympic Gold medalist. Fighting Americans on home soil.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterDeGale ppv? No chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carneracome on, you know that if DeGale would've fought all those guys over here under Matchroom, they would all be PPV , he would've been hyped up to be some sort of World Beater and would've earned a fortune.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterDe Gale a lot of money fighting abroad against Dirrell, Medina, Bute and Badou Jack. I am sure it would have been more than at matchroom as well. Yes he may have been better protected but could still have come unstuck with any fighter too. Brook got beat quite severely as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraOverall, People like DeGale and Selby , even Frampton, would've all made more money with Matchroom than they have ever made on the road. And let's be honest , they would've been protected better as well. whether that's right or wrong is neither here nor there, it's a cast iron fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Look at what Bellew and Brook have earned for example, and who they had to fight to earn it.
Brook made a killing against GGG, and if he had fought him anywhere else , it wouldn't have been worth his while.
Do you seriously not see that he would’ve earned bucket loads. Fuck me, they made Bellew into a ppv star, he’s had 3 ppv fights and a stadium fight at his Club’s stadium.
And you seriously don’t think DeGale would’ve been ppv? Priceless.:rolleyes:
No I do not. If it was that easy Groves could have also done it. It is not that easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraSo fucking Naive! I’m talking about DeGale of a few years ago . A World Champion , Olympic Gold medalist. Fighting Americans on home soil.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterDeGale ppv? No chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carneracome on, you know that if DeGale would've fought all those guys over here under Matchroom, they would all be PPV , he would've been hyped up to be some sort of World Beater and would've earned a fortune.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterDe Gale a lot of money fighting abroad against Dirrell, Medina, Bute and Badou Jack. I am sure it would have been more than at matchroom as well. Yes he may have been better protected but could still have come unstuck with any fighter too. Brook got beat quite severely as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraOverall, People like DeGale and Selby , even Frampton, would've all made more money with Matchroom than they have ever made on the road. And let's be honest , they would've been protected better as well. whether that's right or wrong is neither here nor there, it's a cast iron fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Look at what Bellew and Brook have earned for example, and who they had to fight to earn it.
Brook made a killing against GGG, and if he had fought him anywhere else , it wouldn't have been worth his while.
Do you seriously not see that he would’ve earned bucket loads. Fuck me, they made Bellew into a ppv star, he’s had 3 ppv fights and a stadium fight at his Club’s stadium.
And you seriously don’t think DeGale would’ve been ppv? Priceless.:rolleyes:
Bellew is just an exceptionally lucky guy.
I like James but he is a doughnut and his trainer not the sharpest knife in the box.
Really think he's been ill-advised Olympic and World champion but not a house hold name.
Hearn would have hyped him up and protected him and he would made a shit load of money
Of course Degale would have been PPV with every one of his big fights over the past few years had he been with Hearn/Sky.
Bellew wasn't lucky he self marketed himself with his big mouth, had worldwide exposure in a Rocky film then had a UK PPV king in Haye as a dance partner twice over.
Ignore Master his fight savvy would fill half a postage stamp.
Degale like I said earlier had the fighter beat out of him by Badou Jack and is notoriously difficult to work with.
He's a gone pecan. He did very well to get Truax and trinket back for one final send off. But dude has soaked up some punishment and time don't forgive. Uzcategui sitting on his doorstep?