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Did anybody else see this? It was insane. Madrimov knocked out Walker but the ref called it a push instead of a knockdown. Then he gave him 5 minutes to recover. It was ridiculous. Walker survived the rest of the fight. That’s dangerous especially after all of these in ring deaths.
The officials in America outside the major commissions are always diabolical. The guy didn't know where he was for 4 of 5 minutes he was down, he wasn't even trying to quit, he was genuinely knocked doolally. How he got through the 12th round is a miracle. He was a good fighter too considering he learnt to fight doing a ten stint in the clink whilst Madrimov had 10,000 amateur fights.
Didn't see it but found the replay. Ref def blew it and makes no sense whatsoever to not utilize instant replay for cases like this or have a commission with some balls and responsibility step up and overrule the ref. The arena was empty, everyone saw it and sat by letting it continue. Gary Ritters 1st ref assignment in 6 months too and going by the website commission hasn't had announced meeting since January.
that was a ko. walker needs a new corner. ref should never work the ring again
Very true too, his corner failed him knowing he was ktfo and surviving on instinct.Quote:
Originally Posted by TIC
The ref knew he made a mistake by telling Madrimov afterwards that his push knocked him down. Even if that were true, couldn’t you just stop the fight as the ref? If Walker got hit and then pushed down, isn’t it in the refs discretion to stop the fight?
Remember when Brewster knocked down Wlad at the end of the round and Wlad couldn’t really get up? He stopped the fight even though the knockdown was after the bell.
These refs are too fragile to admit a mistake. I’ve seen it on multiple occasions.
Don't think a replay would have helped, the ref realized pretty quick he'd buggered up and just ran with it. He told the guys he knocked him out but then he hit him with his shoulder... And if he hadn't hit with his shoulder it would have been a KO :S... He then suggested the fight go to the scorecards if walker couldn't continue... All good ideas for someone who was just kod.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Amazing bungling by the ref and all because he wouldn't admit he was wrong, walker looked totally buggered in the last round too, that'll have done some damage to him
Dang if that's the case he needs to be canned or suspended right off. There's no secondary to being KO'd, shoulder, karate kick etc afterwards. Makes no sense. Once a fighter is deemed knocked out by a legal shot that's a wrap. I think the commission is equally at fault and reading their criteria and rules for appointed officials leaves much to be desired. They only require CE or training refresh once every 3 years ffs. A refs record per fight should follow them just as any fighter, highlights and lowlights and outright incompetence. This is the outline the State athletic commission provides...Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerqDon't think a replay would have helped, the ref realized pretty quick he'd buggered up and just ran with it. He told the guys he knocked him out but then he hit him with his shoulder... And if he hadn't hit with his shoulder it would have been a KO :S... He then suggested the fight go to the scorecards if walker couldn't continue... All good ideas for someone who was just kod.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Amazing bungling by the ref and all because he wouldn't admit he was wrong, walker looked totally buggered in the last round too, that'll have done some damage to him
OSAC Requirements for Referee’s and Judges
The Oklahoma State Athletic Commission (OSAC) policy for the licensing and assigning
of referee’s and judges to events regulated by the Commission are contained within this
policy memorandum. The Commission considers many factors in the assignment of ring
officials to events. Technical knowledge of the type of combative sport being officiated,
past success, past failures, and attitude are just a few of the factors that are taken into
consideration. We are all human and we will error. The frequency of the errors is what
determines if you have the capability to be a ring official. Just like everyone does not
possess the skills to pilot an aircraft, everyone does not have the ability to be a combative
sports referee or judge. Officiating at an event sanctioned by the Oklahoma State
Athletic Commission is a privilege, not a right.
That is just screwy as all hell to put in a policy memorandum???. Makes you really think about what is going under the radar
2 hr 39 mins and around 49secs into the Canadian dazn broadcast(I assume it's the same broadcast in America, and assuming you have access to dazn) the ref starts his ramblings :S... It can be heard very clearly... The ref really buggered this one, walker had no idea what was happening.... Really badQuote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliDang if that's the case he needs to be canned or suspended right off. There's no secondary to being KO'd, shoulder, karate kick etc afterwards. Makes no sense. Once a fighter is deemed knocked out by a legal shot that's a wrap. I think the commission is equally at fault and reading their criteria and rules for appointed officials leaves much to be desired. They only require CE or training refresh once every 3 years ffs. A refs record per fight should follow them just as any fighter, highlights and lowlights and outright incompetence. This is the outline the State athletic commission provides...Quote:
Originally Posted by palmerqDon't think a replay would have helped, the ref realized pretty quick he'd buggered up and just ran with it. He told the guys he knocked him out but then he hit him with his shoulder... And if he hadn't hit with his shoulder it would have been a KO :S... He then suggested the fight go to the scorecards if walker couldn't continue... All good ideas for someone who was just kod.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Amazing bungling by the ref and all because he wouldn't admit he was wrong, walker looked totally buggered in the last round too, that'll have done some damage to him
OSAC Requirements for Referee’s and Judges
The Oklahoma State Athletic Commission (OSAC) policy for the licensing and assigning
of referee’s and judges to events regulated by the Commission are contained within this
policy memorandum. The Commission considers many factors in the assignment of ring
officials to events. Technical knowledge of the type of combative sport being officiated,
past success, past failures, and attitude are just a few of the factors that are taken into
consideration. We are all human and we will error. The frequency of the errors is what
determines if you have the capability to be a ring official. Just like everyone does not
possess the skills to pilot an aircraft, everyone does not have the ability to be a combative
sports referee or judge. Officiating at an event sanctioned by the Oklahoma State
Athletic Commission is a privilege, not a right.
That is just screwy as all hell to put in a policy memorandum???. Makes you really think about what is going under the radar