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If he is taking Enzo lightly Haye could be in real S**t in this fight. I think Haye thinks it gonna be a very early night but if Enzo takes him past the 4th round Haye may well be in trouble if he isnt taking it lightly.
I've read alot about how good Enzo's body punching is but Haye was throwing some really good body shots against Mormeck. So who does have the better body punches?
I don't think Haye is underestimating Enzo, I think he'll be fully focused come Sat. As for calling Wlad a bum, I don't like it but unfortunitly in boxing this is what u have to do sometimes to get noticed and insult someone into a fight. Its always going to happen.
Klitschko will not be afraid to fight him immediatly after the Enzo fight if thats what Haye wants.
...everyone is entitled to have a bad night, and fortunatly for klitschko still able to get not only a win but an easy one. But he has to expect to have every heavyweight in the world taking shots at him and calling him out. A normal klitschko beats most of them just like he was doing before this last fight.
I don't know about this guy. Remember Miranda calling out Taylor when he was at his prefight interviews for Pavlik.I am gonna go with Enzo now,Oh yeah and who is David Haye again to call out Klitschko ,does anybody really know him besides the serious fightfans.
I give Haye a chance against Wlad, Wlad has an awful chin and if Haye lands big with one of his Hayemakers I doubt Wlad would get up. Having said that Wlad would use his jab to great use.
Now I truly believe that the word "bum" is commonly misused.
....I give Haye a great chance vs WladimirQuote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
....a great chance of getting knocked the fuck out
Let's hope the fight happens. Haye has immense power and Wlad would struggle with it especially as he got knocked down 3 TIMES by Sam Peter and KNFO by Corrie Sanders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
What does public awarness have to do with it though?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fightfan
In Britain more people know who hatton is than they do Floyd... doesn't affect a thing though does it? ;)
David is the unified, undisputed champion of the cruserweight division which is in no worse shape then heavy weight is at the moment.
Haye can have all the power he wants to but face facts, he's small, he's been KO'd before, and he offers nothing different than anyone else Wlad has fought.
Haye is a good fighter from all I have seen of him but Wlad knows how to fight tall and Haye is not going to have an easy time with that.
Bigger than Sam peter... faster... boxes better, more athletic and arguably hits harder... I would imagine he definitely does with straights.
Not that this guarantees he would do better than Peter but you can't break it down like that, which is what you're trying to do.
If the fight happens and unless Wlad does'nt do a Floyd Mayweather by hit and run strategy or scared to fuck to throw the right I guarantee Wlad will hit the canvas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Fine....Haye offers nothing tricky for Wladimir to handle. Sure Haye has quick hands but Haye got KO'd by a CRUISERWEIGHT.....and a super old one at that.
Your arguement makes me wonder if you have ever watched a Wladimir Klitschko fight other than the last one :rolleyes:
Haye gassed out and its something you call a "Learning curve" ;) and yes I have seen Wlad fight besides the Ibragimov fight but the Ibragimov one sticks in my mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
....well that "learning curve" gets a lot steeper when you fight a guy like Wlad.
David Haye had better worry about just being a good cruiserweight before he steps in with the top of the heavyweight division.
He had just better hope to hell he doesn't become another Lawrence Clay-Bey
You're simply looking at 'TKO' on his record... you're not looking at how the fight went down... who it was against or Haye's experience at the time...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Wasn't Evander a Cruiser weight?...
Exactly, Evander Holyfield was a cruiserweight...and David Haye is no Evander Holyfield!
Bring it on.....but don't cry when Wlad obliterates David Haye and say stuff like "He was just a blown up cruiserweight"....Haye is a good fighter but I sure as hell don't see him beating Wladimir, not yet....and not in the near future.
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Originally Posted by Lyle
He'd have an even greater chance of getting his wrists slapped. ;)
'Bring it on'? bring it on?... hahah what you smoking? got of Wlad's dick why don't you.
I'm not a fan boy so I'm not pitting 'my boxer' against your's...
Haye has had 22 fights for god's sake and you're trying to say he isn't as good as Holyfeild?
He might be, he might not be... who can tell?
I'm not saying that Haye will beat Wlad or that the fight should happen right now.
like I say I'm not on Haye's dick here... I leave the fanboyism to others... you can't deny that haye has the potential to do things at Heavy Weight.
Forget the talk... he's just planting seeds... this is a buisiness so don't you talk it personal when Haye says nasty nasty things about Wlad.
Well people are talking like he's going to just skip the fight with Macca to fight Wladimir.
David Haye is not ready to fight a heavyweight contender yet much less the champion
See that's were we almost agree... ;)
....all I was trying to say was David Haye needs to keep his mouth shut and focus on Maccarinelli before he looks like a fool....againQuote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
I would just like to see Haye as a heavyweight first
Why not Lamon Brewster? Not one of the really big heavyweights, can be outboxed and is most likely shot. But he's got a big punch and he at least use to be able to take a good shot.
Haye wasn't KO'd his corner threw in the towel and that was due to him using up all his tank to finish Carl Thompson early. In fact it was similar to your boy Wlad vs Brewster when he tried everything in his power to stop Brewster but run out of steam and was stopped. I give Haye a good chance of sparking out Wladimir, Haye is a good boxer with good speed and a lot of power, when is the last time Wladimir met someone like that ?? if they ever do fight i think i will make a bet on Haye pulling off the upset.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Have fun losing your money ICB....although the only way to really win any money when betting on a Klitschko fight is to bet against him and hope he loses....because he's usually the favorite by too large a margin.
David Haye has not even fought A heavyweight much less THE #1 Heavyweight...we'll see how he does vs a guy like Dimitrenko and maybe Povetkin would prove to be a good fight for him before even thinking about him fighting Wladimir
I just hope for everyone's sake that Haye becomes an AWESOME heavyweight so when Wlad does stomp him out he can get some mother fucking credit
Haye is gonna get worked at heavyweight IMO, unless he has really improved his conditioning. He's not gonna be knocking out the big guys as easy, and if it goes late I dont like his chances against a heavyweight w/ a chin, his chin hasnt really been put to the test and Mormeck floored him so its still suspect in my book. Wlad would knock him out IMO, but you never know until the fight happens.
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Originally Posted by Lyle
LOL Talking shit about the Russian boxers,hell I don't think haye could get past Sultan or the ten under Sultan, I do love to see an ignorant mouthy bastard like that get ktfo.
I worry about a guy like Haye who has struggled with big hitters before and who went down versus Mormeck.
Still, at this point, David Haye could be the best thing for the heavyweight division. Klitschko needs a rival if he is going to be some sort of great champion and while I like him, Sam Peter isn't it. I hope Haye becomes champion one day because he is more appealing to most then Klitschko.
Klitschko - Haye late 08 could be the fight to have us all talking.
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Originally Posted by leftylee
Wlad is a bit more composed now then he was in the Sanders fight, also contrary to popular belief Corrie hit pretty damn hard back then and Wlad underestimated him...
Brewster he punched himself out or just lost all his stamina not really sure which even after seeing it 7 or 8 times...But he was gassed not beaten..
Peter hits hard and Wlad got up from all the knockdowns
Also you have to understandCW power is different then HW power....Haye is not the boxer Wlad is nor does he have the power of Wlad...The only thing simular is the fact they have shakey chins...
see everybody uses the adjective bum
You're obsessed.Quote:
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Originally Posted by ICB
Thank you very much!!!!
It's time to get off Wlad's dick Lyle.
Did not Haye knock out the WBC #12 in 90 seconds dropping him 3 times on his first step up to heavyweight :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Bonin was actually decent too, he was no joke at all.
Guys can I just point out something here. You were talking about Haye knocking out the #12 WBC ranked heavyweight Bonin, its widely regarded that the heavyweight division besides its top few fighter is currently in a state of disarray, where you can have a lot of heavy unskilled shit boxers as ranked fighters. I don't think that Bonin, whose record has been built on fighting nobodies (and when he comes against a name such as Haye or Harrison, get his arse handed to him) can be a decent argument for Haye doing well at heavyweight.
I think that Haye vs Klitschko would be very interesting, Haye is fast and has good power, but I think Klitschko is too clever a fighter to allow him to use it and would use his natural advantages to neutralise them. He's a smart fighter who can fight at range then step in to put in what can only be described as A-bombs. But hey I'd drag myself out of bed at 2am to watch that one.
I agree with you 100%. The only big fight Haye has had was against Mormeck and he looked shaky. The punch that put him on his arse literally grazed him and he said afterwards it was 'because of the weight I had no legs', which we all now know to be bullshit according to Haye's trainer. The weight issue was just a ploy to get Enzo in to the ring. So with this in mind, Haye has a very fragile chin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Then he wants to move up to Heavyweight and take on half of the undisputed Champion, Wladimir who is skilled and powerful..I just want to ask what indication any of you have had that he can hang with a skillful, in his prime, heavyweight like Wlad? If he got dropped by a grazing Mormeck shot then what is he going to do against a bigger, more skilful and harder hitting champion?
I'm not being a hater even though i'll admit i'm not a Haye fan but I am looking at it realistically..I do think people give Haye far too much credit on here. Haye needs at least a year or 2 of experience at the heavy's before he can even talk about challenging somebody like a Klitchsko.
You are fine one to talk about being on anyones dick...I think I just heard Ricky calling your name, he needs his daily nob polish.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
Wow you popped your head off Floyd's ding dong then have you. I heard your moving onto big bad Leonard Ellerbe next as you like the "Fat and Meaty" type :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by Althugz
"Oh Floyd you really are so fucking damm pretty, UHH UHHHHHHH" :fking:
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Originally Posted by leftylee