Surprised there's no thread about this.. at time of posting.
Anyone think Mosley can win? I don't.
If the same Mosley turns up that fought Mayorga last time, then I think he'll definitely be stopped late-ish.. probably by the corner.
Thoughts?
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Surprised there's no thread about this.. at time of posting.
Anyone think Mosley can win? I don't.
If the same Mosley turns up that fought Mayorga last time, then I think he'll definitely be stopped late-ish.. probably by the corner.
Thoughts?
I don't really think Shane Mosley has much of a chance in this one, i thought he looked half asleep for majority of the Ricardo Mayorga fight. He isn't a pure boxer he doesn't use his footwork much, so i don't think he can outbox Antonio Margarito.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Shane Mosley has always been a boxer/puncher i've seen quite alot of his fights, and as i've said before i've never really seen him outbox a fighter using his technical skills/boxing skills. He normally overwhelms opponents with his speed/power/stamina ETC.
Plus Shane Mosley's output lately has been way low so i think he's gonna find it hard. To keep Antonio Margarito off him and i don't think Shane Mosley, really hits that hard at Welterweight.
I think Shane Mosley might get a bit of pasting in this one, i think he will survive 12 rounds because he's a warrior and tough as nails. But overall i see him just getting outworked and losing a UD, he may have some success counter punching like he did at times with Ricardo Mayorga.
But lets be honest if someone as limited as Ricardo Mayorga was able to close the distance. And give Shane Mosley a tough fight, it doesn't bode well for his next fight against someone tougher, and even more physical than Ricardo Mayorga, with a higher output and a better array of punches.
Margarito is going to box to a UD, it will be a good fight I think. Mosley will know that he wont be able to get away with anything sloppy and he knows that he will have to box and use his speed to have any chance of beating him.
My call exactly. Corner steps in the late rounds to stop the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
That is the key there, even if Shane toughs it out til the end no way does it look like he's doing more in the judges eyes. I wouldn't be suprised if Margarito averages four times as many landed and thrown punches per round over Mosley.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBI don't really think Shane Mosley has much of a chance in this one, i thought he looked half asleep for majority of the Ricardo Mayorga fight. He isn't a pure boxer he doesn't use his footwork much, so i don't think he can outbox Antonio Margarito.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Shane Mosley has always been a boxer/puncher i've seen quite alot of his fights, and as i've said before i've never really seen him outbox a fighter using his technical skills/boxing skills. He normally overwhelms opponents with his speed/power/stamina ETC.
Plus Shane Mosley's output lately has been way low so i think he's gonna find it hard. To keep Antonio Margarito off him and i don't think Shane Mosley, really hits that hard at Welterweight.
I think Shane Mosley might get a bit of pasting in this one, i think he will survive 12 rounds because he's a warrior and tough as nails. But overall i see him just getting outworked and losing a UD, he may have some success counter punching like he did at times with Ricardo Mayorga.
But lets be honest if someone as limited as Ricardo Mayorga was able to close the distance. And give Shane Mosley a tough fight, it doesn't bode well for his next fight against someone tougher, and even more physical than Ricardo Mayorga, with a higher output and a better array of punches.
Sadly i give mosley little chance...best bet is to hit and run but the same thing will happen to him that happened to cotto when he tried.
Picking Tony most likely by unam descision.Ready to LMAO?.....I think Mosley catches Margarito early on and makes him do a stumble dance before Tony revs up & grinds Mosley down on his heels as Shane plays macho on the inside with him :fight:.
I can't see Shane getting through this fight without taking quite a bit of punishment. He won't move enough or throw enough punches to keep Margo off him but I doubt he will get stopped, Shane is a tough nut.
Margarito by UD
It's hard to make a case for Mosley. He's got a divorce brewing too and legal problems due to the BALCO steroids thing hanging over him. I don't see him coming close to stopping or outworking Margarito but I see him having enough boxing ability to make it to the end of the fight. Margarito UD in an entertaining fight.
I give Mosley a chance to win here... slim one but a chance all the same!
I truely believe Margarito will put the hurt on late but Mosley will see the end. But my heart will be with a Sugar Shane victory!!!
Yeah, my thoughts too. :cwm36:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mar
I don’t believe it but I hope so!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
Oh I believe it! If the Mosley that fought Mayorga shows up he's in trouble! Major Trouble!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by iwng100I don’t believe it but I hope so!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
But then you have the Mosley backers who really have to hope & look at the other side of the coin. Margarito took some huge shots vs Cotto... could they have taken a toll? You hit a wall hard enough for longer enough eventually its gonna crack!
Mosley is still very fast, faster than Margarito & even at 37 has excellent skills.
I like both guys going into this, so I don't really mind who wins but as I saiod before my heart will be with Mosley.
I agree, you can't take those kind of shots fight after fight and not be affected by it surely? I remember watching the Cotto fight and thinking 'what the fuck is he made of' I was quite surprised he never looked in any trouble at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyOh I believe it! If the Mosley that fought Mayorga shows up he's in trouble! Major Trouble!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by iwng100I don’t believe it but I hope so!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
But then you have the Mosley backers who really have to hope & look at the other side of the coin. Margarito took some huge shots vs Cotto... could they have taken a toll? You hit a wall hard enough for longer enough eventually its gonna crack!
Mosley is still very fast, faster than Margarito & even at 37 has excellent skills.
I like both guys going into this, so I don't really mind who wins but as I saiod before my heart will be with Mosley.
It was amazing how he took those shots, add in the Cintron rematch, there were some big shots there too!Quote:
Originally Posted by KelI agree, you can't take those kind of shots fight after fight and not be affected by it surely? I remember watching the Cotto fight and thinking 'what the fuck is he made of' I was quite surprised he never looked in any trouble at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyOh I believe it! If the Mosley that fought Mayorga shows up he's in trouble! Major Trouble!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by iwng100
But then you have the Mosley backers who really have to hope & look at the other side of the coin. Margarito took some huge shots vs Cotto... could they have taken a toll? You hit a wall hard enough for longer enough eventually its gonna crack!
Mosley is still very fast, faster than Margarito & even at 37 has excellent skills.
I like both guys going into this, so I don't really mind who wins but as I saiod before my heart will be with Mosley.
I think there a small amount of hope for Mosley fans. Remember Margarito got the biggest win of his career over Cotto, he was the under dog going into that fight & was hungry to prove himself... here he is the overwhelming favorite! I'm sure he's still hungry but will he be at that same intensity level? I don't know...
Dud I totally agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Never count Shane Mosley out, or any fighter for that matter, I think Mosley could make Tony stumble dance in the early rounds, but Tony wins stoppage. TKO:)
I think Shane knows he can't win by KO. so the game plan no matter how tempting it is to stay inside for a while and throw more punches should be to box. that is all. that should be all.
Jab..jab.jab. straight right.jab..run..run. run. run.run.run.run.jab.jab.jab.fake.run.jab.run.run.r un.there goes the bell.run.raises his right hand. x 12 boring rounds. = UD ;D
BUT I know he, at this stage of his career is much less capable of doing so. and I feel Tony is gonna have another highlight reel. 1st one to stop Mosley? I think he would do so.;)
Whilst I favour Margarito to win I dont think its the 1 horse race everyone is saying it is.
I cant see Shane getting stopped. He is too classy to be worn down. He may box rings round the much slower Mexican in the early rounds and beat him to the punch. As it progresses Tonys pace takes over and he takes a points decision .
Good competative fight
Good Competitive Fight. Unless Shane can move in and out without being hit, he won't win this fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
There is a blueprint to beating Margarito: (1) fight defensively (not the most appealing style to watch) - be in tremendous shape and move around the ring a lot, never getting into exchanges, win on points for cleaner, straighter punches or (2) stay on the outside and throw a ton of punches (requires long reach), like Paul Williams.
I hope Marg wins, I have lost respect for Mosley injecting himself with substances in his blood stream. No boxer should be doing that.
I'm not sure about getting stopped but beaten yes!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
I didn't realize until yesterday that this is not PPV. It just goes to show you that even though Margarito is the lineal champ in the deepest division in boxing facing a first ballot hall-of-famer that still no one knows him. Hell, let me stop- this isn't a trash Margo thread. I want Mosley to win, but as a guy who has never KO'd an elite fighter in this class I doubt he's about to do it against the guy with the best or second best chin in the division. Mosley will crack him often enough until 7 or 8 when it becomes obvious that Margarito isn't going anywhere and Shane has to ride a bike to even sniff the finish line. I wouldn't be surprised if Tony scored a knockdown due to Shane exhaustion, but there won't be a 10 count. There COULD be a KO, but Shane will be in an upright position when he speaks to Harold Lederman.
I think that even though Shane Mosley is old i think he can pull i win over Antino Margarito i think people are still high off Margarito last win but i think Shane Mosley is hell of alot metally tougher and has a better chin then say a Cintron or a Cotto if he keeps moving and keeps a good out put i would not have much trouble seeing Molsey ud over the tough Margrito if you have the chin and the fast hands then you can beat him not sure how much age while play but who knows though.
I would of though Mosely would have a chance if it had not been for the Mayorga fight. Margarito by 10th round TKO
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Originally Posted by Master
The fight schedule he has kept up through his life, I don't blame him for using steroids........esp. when it was harder to detect and just as widespread as it is now.
THis steroid deal is really widespread, they are just going after names for examples. Mosely is the Martha Stewart of boxing and it pisses me off.
Maybe you should stop because the fight at Staples Center is sold out. 18,157 tickets sold!Quote:
Originally Posted by Killface
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Welterweights Margarito, Mosely draw packed house to Staples Center | LA Wave Newspaper | Sports
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Originally Posted by RantcatratMaybe you should stop because the fight at Staples Center is sold out. 18,157 tickets sold!Quote:
Originally Posted by Killface
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Welterweights Margarito, Mosely draw packed house to Staples Center | LA Wave Newspaper | Sports
That is nice.
UPright position like Bute was in? :p
I think his mentality ,Shanes,Has always been that of a 'fighter' and I think he was trying to make a statement in that Mayorga fight.Stood in and went shot for shot.I do not see him being able to move/box all night at this stage of career,even if he could I think he really would not be hesitant to step in and bang in spots with Tony,as crazy as that sounds,I think Mosley needs to show Tony he can crack him when he rushes in.Im telling you,Shane is VERY live in this one early on but I see Tony coming on strong,killing that body and taking this one :fight:.Has all the makings of a war!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr140
Think if Shane Mosley goes to the body he has a good chance of slowing Antonio Margarito down that seems to be the only place that you can hurt the man lets not forget that i know Shane Mosley has alwasy been better at the weight of 147 and i think he has a chance to beat Antonio Margarito i think he has the chin and the skill to upset Antonio Margrito.
I am thinking very hard on this one
You gotta at least give Shane props for taking this fight, the fight that would've been the ideal Swan song for Delahoya.
Anyways I like Shane and I'd like him to win, but I can't see that happening. I doubt he'll even make it to the final rounds.
Margarito by decision in a close one.
I am pulling for shane on this one, if tony loses then pacs chances of getting in the mix with the big boys of 147 increases. Plus i always root for shane ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Come on Mr Fact Man, lets have ourselves a friendly bet. 1 month bet or something. If you win I'll put Fenster is the Real Fact Man. :)
Margarito for me, to much of a beast for Mosley to handle this late in his career, props to Shane for taking this though, its going to be a cracker while it lasts.
Sure.. i'll bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainI am pulling for shane on this one, if tony loses then pacs chances of getting in the mix with the big boys of 147 increases. Plus i always root for shane ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Come on Mr Fact Man, lets have ourselves a friendly bet. 1 month bet or something. If you win I'll put Fenster is the Real Fact Man. :)
A sig bet though. I can't do name change bets because a) i'm a mod and b) i'm not stupid.
You have Shane any win.. i have Todge. :cool:
(if i win i want you to put something else ;))
Im pulling for shane to win. I just have this slight feeling he will win.
I have this weird hunch that Shane will win.
Learned from experience to ignore those hunches for the most part. I'm not sure Lacy's ready for Robin Reid, just a hunch.
I always have mixed feelings about a fight. I was almost 100% that Cotto would beat Margarito then I thought pavlik was gonna beat bhop and Oscar would beat Pacman. each of those fights i have hunches that the oher fighter would win. I know Margarito is expected to win but I have a feeling that Shane could take this.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Lmao I was the same way, now I must hedge my pick just like you as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingfrnkI always have mixed feelings about a fight. I was almost 100% that Cotto would beat Margarito then I thought pavlik was gonna beat bhop and Oscar would beat Pacman. each of those fights i have hunches that the oher fighter would win. I know Margarito is expected to win but I have a feeling that Shane could take this.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
I'm picking Mosley in this fight. Cotto would have beaten Margarito by just tying him up on the inside. That's the way Shane can beat him. Beat him to the punch and tie him up when he gets in close. Tony is so slow that if he threw a punch today it might get there by Saturday night.