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Any thoughts on this? Ivan is the best little man in the world but he is getting a bit old. If his elusiveness starts to fade Mayol's not a bad puncher. I'll still go with Ivan.
Oh and f*** HBO for not showing this and only showing Cotto-Clottey. Yay more Berto-Urango type fights please :beat:
I also think Ivan will take this.
I have Rodel Mayol in my fantasy stable... That's all I can say...;D
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Yeah I think Calderon has a few rocky moments shaking the ring rust but will win over 12.
i feel calderon is looking past mayol which might turn out to be his undoing. mayol's failure in previous championship bouts were due to ill-preparation. this could well be his last chance and i have a feeling he'll take it. mayol is highly motivated with manny pacquiao backing him up and calderon doesn't have the big punch to really trouble him. ivan's elusiveness would be his main problem but i think rodel will catch him somewhere along the way for a possible stoppage in the late rounds.
yea i think it's pretty clear what really is up, so i'm done with this poser, he's clearly the biggest retard on the forumQuote:
Originally Posted by CFH
I got no beef with Xaduboxer, I've had some good debates with him in the past
I wouldn't be surprised if Calderon stops Mayol! But a clinic is more than likely! No way The Iron Boy loses this fight!!!
Xadu I'll take a sigi bet with you if you want? I already replied to a post in the prediction thread by another poster. Its not really a fair bet though as Mayol is an overwhelming underdog... but let me know
that no way line again. who was it that said no way hatton loses to pacquiao?Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
really, calderon is the favorite here but mayol is a live underdog.
I respectfully decline your bet offer Galaxy Man...;) Seriously, I'm worried on Mayol gassing up but I'm hoping he'll catch the slick, clever Ivan in the early rounds...Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
Having Mayol in my stable in your fantasy league is enough for me this time...;)
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Some fools blinded by their love of Hatton said that, but I very much doubt Galaxy did, he's too smart to say something as stupid as that.Quote:
Originally Posted by KKisserthat no way line again. who was it that said no way hatton loses to pacquiao?Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
really, calderon is the favorite here but mayol is a live underdog.
I think Calderon wins this one either by a late TKO or UD of 118-110 or 119-109
Cheers Jaz, I picked Pacquiao by KO for the record (Hattons just to wide open)Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinSome fools blinded by their love of Hatton said that, but I very much doubt Galaxy did, he's too smart to say something as stupid as that.Quote:
Originally Posted by KKisserthat no way line again. who was it that said no way hatton loses to pacquiao?Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
really, calderon is the favorite here but mayol is a live underdog.
I think Calderon wins this one either by a late TKO or UD of 118-110 or 119-109
This is Calderon's 1st appeareance at the Garden, he was preparing for an arguably tougher opponent in Cesar Canchila until Segura defeated him & he has a big fight (for little me) with Viloria looming, plus the fact that his undefeated record & legacy are on the line!
Theres no way he messes all that up on Mayol!
ok cleaned out alot of shit from this thread... keep the main boards clean.
Two things that will happen after Mayol ktfo Calderon. 1: Mr. Erik here will man up for our bets. And 2: we're gonna hear his lame @ss excuses about Ivan was already a down the fighter before he fought Mayol.
i haven't made any excuses for any of the fighters i was going for, Hatton included, if Mayol pulls a rabbit out of his hat, i'll give him credit , and i'm expecting you to do the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by Quinito
Any live stream for Calderon-Mayol fight anyone?
still no word if it's gonna be televised by HBO?Quote:
Originally Posted by Quinito
the word is no from everything I've heard.
same hereQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
We get this in the UK through the TOP RANK PPV, any idea how high on the card it is? Is it right before Cotto-Clottey?
i'd imagineQuote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
I dont get why this is not an hbo double header. These extra small fighters are more fun to watch than our current HW champions imo.
yea i don't get it either, but well lets be honest, apart from the die hard boxing fans, not many people like seeing the small guysQuote:
Originally Posted by Quinito
This article kinda goes someway to explaining why it ain't on HBO
Calderon gets respect, but not from the networks
It's obvious why the TV aren't interested in little fighters like Calderon.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
What's interesting in that piece is - anyone that thinks the Ring P4P list is the daddy of all rankings, check how the writer, Doug Fisher, uses P4P lists from other sites to highlight how highly regarded Calderon is, ignoring the fact his own firm doesn't have him rated.
So no co-feature??Again.Usually they re-air the main event of a previous PPV.At times I think HBO is severly overrated in its 'rockstar' mindset.
HBO will rather broadcast Real Sex #83 or somethin than the calderon fight. Lol
not like Calderon really is loosing out cause his fight against Mayol is still gonna be on PPV here in PR, the UK, and in the PhillipinesQuote:
Originally Posted by Quinito
HBO and many people considered Calderon fights as boring ones not worthy of airtime... But I think Mayol will try his best to make this fight interesting...Quote:
Originally Posted by Quinito
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Even if he was considered more exciting, HBO just isn't in the business of showing 108 pound guys fighting each other.
we're only in June and there were rumors of HBO already being kinda tight with their budget, so doesn't shock me to not see them cash out for a fight at a weight class that gets little attention, don't forget Viloria is in the same boat, he's never fought on a regular HBO broadcast eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Very valid point... I'm not sure tho if I've seen the exciting little fighter Jorge Arce on HBO?Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
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Arce was the main event on HBO in his fight against Julio Dave Roque Ler, Pavlik/Zertuche was on the undercard, the Arce fight was at 112 lbsQuote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxerVery valid point... I'm not sure tho if I've seen the exciting little fighter Jorge Arce on HBO?Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
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pretty sure his fight against Makepula was on HBO as well
True, but Arce was a bit of a special case, very exciting but also charismatic and a huge Mexican following.
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesArce was the main event on HBO in his fight against Julio Dave Roque Ler, Pavlik/Zertuche was on the undercard, the Arce fight was at 112 lbsQuote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxerVery valid point... I'm not sure tho if I've seen the exciting little fighter Jorge Arce on HBO?Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
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pretty sure his fight against Makepula was on HBO as well
Thanks, so HBO actually showed fights of exciting 112 guys... It could be that Calderon is just a little boring fighter and also a bit smaller at 108 that HBO decided not to show his fight...
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IMO Calderon is also charismatic and has a huge Rican following... He's not that exciting tho...Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
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Maybe with the following but not the charisma. Arce was a celebrity.
like i said in another post, Viloria is a 108 lb fighter, and he's got power and is exciting, yet he's never fought on HBO either, both Calderon and Viloria have been on HBO PPV undercards but never on regular HBO, it's more of a lack of interest in the division from the GENERAL public, dunno bout you but Calderon/Cazares 1 was one of the best fights that year, it's not like Calderon doesn't engage, he just doesn't have to power to put dents in his opponentsQuote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesArce was the main event on HBO in his fight against Julio Dave Roque Ler, Pavlik/Zertuche was on the undercard, the Arce fight was at 112 lbsQuote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxer
pretty sure his fight against Makepula was on HBO as well
Thanks, so HBO actually showed fights of exciting 112 guys... It could be that Calderon is just a little boring fighter and also a bit smaller at 108 that HBO decided not to show his fight...
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Well if HBO showed Calderon as undercard of HBO PPV in the past then why scratched him now??... But we will leave it as it is, HBO don't want to show anymore Calderon fights for whatever reason they had...Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleslike i said in another post, Viloria is a 108 lb fighter, and he's got power and is exciting, yet he's never fought on HBO either, both Calderon and Viloria have been on HBO PPV undercards but never on regular HBO, it's more of a lack of interest in the division from the GENERAL public, dunno bout you but Calderon/Cazares 1 was one of the best fights that year, it's not like Calderon doesn't engage, he just doesn't have to power to put dents in his opponentsQuote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Thanks, so HBO actually showed fights of exciting 112 guys... It could be that Calderon is just a little boring fighter and also a bit smaller at 108 that HBO decided not to show his fight...
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:rolleyes: ...god please give me patience...
Calderon is lacking in the excitement factor. He's got no power. People wanna see knock out. I bet hbo will appreciate him more and give him more exposure if KOs Mayol. That's a no brainer.