not banned in nevada tho
http://www.examiner.com/x-20066-Pittsburgh-Fight-Sports-Examiner~y2010m1d8-Floyd-Mayweather-the-one-using-banned-substances
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link to old article stating floyd used banned substance xylocaine
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Hmm because pain killers are exactly the same as steroids right? And he hasnt tested positive for anything because he fought in Nevada where its legal so he has done nothing wrong. This is such an obvious ploy to try and take the attention of pac, clutching at straws now.
desperate attempt to make Mayweather look like the cheater lol
It was about time we had the pac nuthugging crew come calling.. what other reasons for pac's innocence do you have zbolt? i'm intrigued to hear.
First line from the first article
"January 8th, 2009"
"It has come to light today that Floyd Mayweather has used injectable pain killers such as Xylocaine in the past before fights."
Date of the second article
"April 21, 2002"
On another note, if it's not banned where he's fighting, he's not exactly doing anything wrong is he?
Does this change the fact that Pacquiao backed out of the fight over a drug test? No it doesn't, but it sure makes a nice distraction.
Trivia, who was Mayweather's promoter during that time?
A. Bob Arum
this is just all media warfare which i really don't care for. i still hope the fight we want gets made. there is still time. pac should accept the 14 day window.
Word.Quote:
Originally Posted by KKisser
i posted this news for it might be related to recent events. not sure why i got neg repped
posted a recent digging or development about this drug fiasco. not here to destroy floyd and defend pac. just posting recent news infoQuote:
Originally Posted by JoeyUK
Its not a double standard, they are not saying they want Olympic rules, they are saying they want Olympic style drug tests.Quote:
Originally Posted by hedikong
But it is not a double standard. Mayweather is fighting legally, he doesnt use it out of nevada. Anyone mayweather has fought and pac have the opportunity to use the same stuff if they want to. The title is misleading...using a banned substance when technically it isnt. It only counts as banned if you use it in the place where it is banned. That would be like saying somone from Amsterdam was smoking pot in Amsterdam and then called it a "banned substance" because its banned where you come from. Where as using steroids or HGH is illegal everywhere. I dont think Mayweather would care if Manny came out and said im using the same stuff you use for your hands this fight because its in Nevada.Quote:
Originally Posted by hedikongIn a sense it is. Mayweathers deluding susceptible people into believing that Pac is using illegal drugs to aid his performance so they insists on the olympic standard test. Well Mayweather performance will be possibly limited by his hand pain so he uses this illegal pain killers which is illegal via Olympic standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovebruceleeIts not a double standard, they are not saying they want Olympic rules, they are saying they want Olympic style drug tests.Quote:
Originally Posted by hedikong
I see Mayweather future fights will be outside those states that banned this painkiller since it is, you know, aid his performance.
Lol the same desperate attempt sr. did to pac. in which weak minded individuals like you bought. Perhaps when they'll say jinkee was a mermaid you guys would also buy it huh? LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
But its no where near the same as that. Floyd Srs comments were based on the fact that pac was doing things most people didnt see possible and he could not see from all his boxing knowledge(hes an idiot but he probably forgets more about boxing then what we ever know) how pac could be doing what he was doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by mad_takamuraLol the same desperate attempt sr. did to pac. in which weak minded individuals like you bought. Perhaps when they'll say jinkee was a mermaid you guys would also buy it huh? LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
This however is a distraction to try and take a the lime light of pac and give them time to regroup.
Your post is more about Mayweather Dickridders vs Pachuggers than the use of banned substances to gain an advantage in a fight. The statement is what it is. Who the fuk cares! It's all just stupid shit!Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovebruceleeBut its no where near the same as that. Floyd Srs comments were based on the fact that pac was doing things most people didnt see possible and he could not see from all his boxing knowledge(hes an idiot but he probably forgets more about boxing then what we ever know) how pac could be doing what he was doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by mad_takamuraLol the same desperate attempt sr. did to pac. in which weak minded individuals like you bought. Perhaps when they'll say jinkee was a mermaid you guys would also buy it huh? LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
This however is a distraction to try and take a the lime light of pac and give them time to regroup.
If the fight is not going to happen, it doesn't happen, get over it! We just have to settle for Mayweather vs Malignaggi (the soft hands fight, maybe they can get Palmolive as an endorser) and Pacquiao vs Clottey (at least it's a fight).
My post is accurate, tell me that it is not a media ploy to take the spot light off manny?Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyYour post is more about Mayweather Dickridders vs Pachuggers than the use of banned substances to gain an advantage in a fight. The statement is what it is. Who the fuk cares! It's all just stupid shit!Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovebruceleeBut its no where near the same as that. Floyd Srs comments were based on the fact that pac was doing things most people didnt see possible and he could not see from all his boxing knowledge(hes an idiot but he probably forgets more about boxing then what we ever know) how pac could be doing what he was doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by mad_takamura
This however is a distraction to try and take a the lime light of pac and give them time to regroup.
If the fight is not going to happen, it doesn't happen, get over it! We just have to settle for Mayweather vs Malignaggi (the soft hands fight, maybe they can get Palmolive as an endorser) and Pacquiao vs Clottey (at least it's a fight).
And if you dont care about seeing the fight then id suggest you jump straight back into the boxing talk board and stay clear of this one buddy, i dont think youll enjoy it ;)
youtube video regarding this subject
Floyd Mayweather Jr. Used Xylocaine (Banned Substance)
xylocaine banned in 49 us states but not in nevada tho. i assume it is also banned in olympics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPivn9N_SQg
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Originally Posted by hedikong
That's because there was a gag order on during mediation, meaning no one could say anything about what was being discussed. The mediator also had a legal duty to publicly correct any false statements put out by Top Rank, Golden Boy Promotions, Team Pacquiao and Team Mayweather.
He has not corrected anything from GBP or Team Mayweather, only the lies put out by Top Rank. Btw, Bob Arum has now admitted that the 14 days offer was on the table
Pacquiao-Clottey May Head To Dallas; Arum Sounds Off - Boxing News
Read the 3rd & 4th paragraph.
If Mayweathers are not sissy, Floyd could won easily in the ring with Pacquiao.Quote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
This is very more credible statement just fires-back to Floyds team
I was pointing out that your post is as much a decoy as the posters you replied to. I addressed nothing about it's accuracy. Where do you read anything about me not wanting to see the fight anywhere? I'm just as disappointed as anyone, but I'm not going to continue crying about it. It's just better to move on. To each his own.... I'll leave you to it then.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovebruceleeMy post is accurate, tell me that it is not a media ploy to take the spot light off manny?Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyYour post is more about Mayweather Dickridders vs Pachuggers than the use of banned substances to gain an advantage in a fight. The statement is what it is. Who the fuk cares! It's all just stupid shit!Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovebrucelee
If the fight is not going to happen, it doesn't happen, get over it! We just have to settle for Mayweather vs Malignaggi (the soft hands fight, maybe they can get Palmolive as an endorser) and Pacquiao vs Clottey (at least it's a fight).
And if you dont care about seeing the fight then id suggest you jump straight back into the boxing talk board and stay clear of this one buddy, i dont think youll enjoy it ;)
So why come into the Pacquiao-Mayweather Chat board? I mean it's pretty clear what will be getting discussed in here :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyI was pointing out that your post is as much a decoy as the posters you replied to. I addressed nothing about it's accuracy. Where do you read anything about me not wanting to see the fight anywhere? I'm just as disappointed as anyone, but I'm not going to continue crying about it. It's just better to move on. To each his own.... I'll leave you to it then.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovebruceleeMy post is accurate, tell me that it is not a media ploy to take the spot light off manny?Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnny
And if you dont care about seeing the fight then id suggest you jump straight back into the boxing talk board and stay clear of this one buddy, i dont think youll enjoy it ;)
The statement by the mediator were one time statements that cover future claims. Besides that Mayweather claimed this happened before mediation.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinQuote:
Originally Posted by hedikong
That's because there was a gag order on during mediation, meaning no one could say anything about what was being discussed. The mediator also had a legal duty to publicly correct any false statements put out by Top Rank, Golden Boy Promotions, Team Pacquiao and Team Mayweather.
He has not corrected anything from GBP or Team Mayweather, only the lies put out by Top Rank. Btw, Bob Arum has now admitted that the 14 days offer was on the table
Pacquiao-Clottey May Head To Dallas; Arum Sounds Off - Boxing News
Read the 3rd & 4th paragraph.
Some people have rational arguments and back up their posts with tangible fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
The MP crowd has evolved from the ridiculous to the ludicrous. I cannot wait for the court date of this case. In a civil libel case in the US it has to be proved that the statement was malicious rather than just an opinion or belief. I am betting that GBP and PBF Lawyers will be able to demonstrate, using unusual dimensions vis a vis MP body development and the contrasting elements of his struggles with 126 and 130 pounders and blowing away of 147 pounders, that they had a legitimate group of circumstances on which to base their suppositions and opinions. All they have to show is a preponderance of propabilities in this case.
Of course they will come up with the idiotic allegation that PBF used some illegal substance. What else do they have? They are throwing things around hoping that something will stick and take the focus off from Manny's vacillatings. But that will not explain away the fact of Mayweather willing to undergo random testing while MP runs like virgin away from it.
I said before and reiterate it here that the conversation about boxing has been dumbed down several notches due to the developments in the PBF MP fight negotiations. And the architects of this devolution in intellectual progress can be laid squarely on the shoulders of the MP sycophants.
Arum has also admitted it read the link. So it's basically clear that Mayweather has not lied, whilst Top Rank have.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyThe statement by the mediator were one time statements that cover future claims. Besides that Mayweather claimed this happened before mediation.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinQuote:
Originally Posted by hedikong
That's because there was a gag order on during mediation, meaning no one could say anything about what was being discussed. The mediator also had a legal duty to publicly correct any false statements put out by Top Rank, Golden Boy Promotions, Team Pacquiao and Team Mayweather.
He has not corrected anything from GBP or Team Mayweather, only the lies put out by Top Rank. Btw, Bob Arum has now admitted that the 14 days offer was on the table
Pacquiao-Clottey May Head To Dallas; Arum Sounds Off - Boxing News
Read the 3rd & 4th paragraph.
Some people have rational arguments and back up their posts with tangible fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
The mediator's statement covered any similar future claims made by Top Rank. It's why Todd deBoeuf & Lee Samuels were making no comment after he released that statement. It doesn't cover anything yet said by GBP or Mayweather.
I've no idea what you mean with your last sentence, I mean I haven't seen you backing up your arguments with verifiable facts. I don't think 'who the fuk cares! it's all just stupid shit' counts as any kind of rational argument.
floyd's proven use of banned substance in the past will have an effect if he really wants stringent drug testing in boxingQuote:
Originally Posted by UKPHIf Mayweathers are not sissy, Floyd could won easily in the ring with Pacquiao.Quote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
This is very more credible statement just fires-back to Floyds team
Not really because its not banned. Its legal where he fights so its not banned, it only counts as being a banned substance if you use it in the state where its not allowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by zboltfloyd's proven use of banned substance in the past will have an effect if he really wants stringent drug testing in boxingQuote:
Originally Posted by UKPHIf Mayweathers are not sissy, Floyd could won easily in the ring with Pacquiao.Quote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
This is very more credible statement just fires-back to Floyds team
Like i said before...its like criticizing someone who lives in Amsterdam for smoking pot in Amsterdam. Its banned in shit loads of places but hes doing it where its legal so therefore its not a banned substance in his case. Its the same with Floyd.
xylocaine is not banned in nevada state. any boxer can use it not only floyd.
just for laughs. it will be hilarious if margarito will use xylocaine so that his hands will not hurt from the concrete ;D
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Originally Posted by zbolt
LOL now your speaking my language. I have spent this whole thread trying to figure out why this so called revelation even matters when hes never used it out of nevada.
The Mediator statements: It was impartial statements so that it applies to both parties. Perhaps you have read reports where author's have added their own comments? Boxing - UK Boxing News - Mediator's Corrective Order Re: Mayweather-Pacquiao MediationQuote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinArum has also admitted it read the link. So it's basically clear that Mayweather has not lied, whilst Top Rank have.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyThe statement by the mediator were one time statements that cover future claims. Besides that Mayweather claimed this happened before mediation.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
Some people have rational arguments and back up their posts with tangible fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
The mediator's statement covered any similar future claims made by Top Rank. It's why Todd deBoeuf & Lee Samuels were making no comment after he released that statement. It doesn't cover anything yet said by GBP or Mayweather.
I've no idea what you mean with your last sentence, I mean I haven't seen you backing up your arguments with verifiable facts. I don't think 'who the fuk cares! it's all just stupid shit' counts as any kind of rational argument.
Here is Mayweather's statement claiming Mayweather asked for 14 days before mediation. Note there was no mention by Mayweather, Pacquiao, the promoters or the media prior to the mediation about a 14 day offer from Mayweather.
Floyd Mayweather Jr. puts out statement on*Pacquiao - Bad Left Hook
Arum's statement, in the link you provided, says “They made the 14 day offer and Todd sent a text message to (Pacquiao's agent) Michael Koncz in the Philippines. Five minutes later, Koncz replied and said Manny rejected that. The point is we have a written record of that.”
Since both Mayweather and Arum are proven to be less that truthful, neither of their statements can be taken as credible. i.e. both claim the offer came outside of mediation. I would expect that if Arum's statements about the text message are in fact true, they would use them as more evidence in Pacquiao Law suit.
Whoa. Can I eat your brain?Quote:
Originally Posted by JJson
it's a fact Xylocaine is not banned in 1 state (nevada) but there's valid reasons too why it's banned in 49 other usa states. it's safe to say Xylocaine is a widely banned illegal substanceQuote:
Originally Posted by ilovebruceleeQuote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
LOL now your speaking my language. I have spent this whole thread trying to figure out why this so called revelation even matters when hes never used it out of nevada.
dude give it up, Floyd only uses xylocaine for his hands due to him having incredibly fragile hands, if it was helping him hit harder at all he'd have a hell of a lot more KO's as of lateQuote:
Originally Posted by zboltit's a fact Xylocaine is not banned in 1 state (nevada) but there's valid reasons too why it's banned in 49 other usa states. it's safe to say Xylocaine is a widely banned illegal substanceQuote:
Originally Posted by ilovebruceleeQuote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
LOL now your speaking my language. I have spent this whole thread trying to figure out why this so called revelation even matters when hes never used it out of nevada.
his fights from 2000 to 2009
Gregorio Vargas - UD
Emanuel Augustus - TKO
Diego Corrales - TKO
Carlos Hernandez - UD
Jesus Chavez - TKO
Jose Luis Castillo - UD
Jose Luis Castillo II - UD
Victoriano Sosa - UD
Phillip N'dou - TKO
DeMarcus Corley - UD
Henry Bruseles - TKO
Arturo Gatti - TKO
Sharmba Mitchell - TKO
Zab Judah - UD
Carlos Baldomir - UD
Oscar De La Hoya - SD
Ricky Hatton - TKO
Juan Manuel Marquez - UD
so that's 10 decisions to 8 KO's, 6 of those KO's being at 140 and under
hmmmm yea those pain killers are making Floyd a mini Tyson :mad::mad::mad::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
without xylocaine, it's possible floyd would have lesser ko wins or possible he could lose some of those fights. it's obvious xylocaine helped floyd in his fights otherwise he would not have used this widely banned substanceQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesdude give it up, Floyd only uses xylocaine for his hands due to him having incredibly fragile hands, if it was helping him hit harder at all he'd have a hell of a lot more KO's as of lateQuote:
Originally Posted by zboltit's a fact Xylocaine is not banned in 1 state (nevada) but there's valid reasons too why it's banned in 49 other usa states. it's safe to say Xylocaine is a widely banned illegal substanceQuote:
Originally Posted by ilovebrucelee
his fights from 2000 to 2009
Gregorio Vargas - UD
Emanuel Augustus - TKO
Diego Corrales - TKO
Carlos Hernandez - UD
Jesus Chavez - TKO
Jose Luis Castillo - UD
Jose Luis Castillo II - UD
Victoriano Sosa - UD
Phillip N'dou - TKO
DeMarcus Corley - UD
Henry Bruseles - TKO
Arturo Gatti - TKO
Sharmba Mitchell - TKO
Zab Judah - UD
Carlos Baldomir - UD
Oscar De La Hoya - SD
Ricky Hatton - TKO
Juan Manuel Marquez - UD
so that's 10 decisions to 8 KO's, 6 of those KO's being at 140 and under
hmmmm yea those pain killers are making Floyd a mini Tyson :mad::mad::mad::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
there are many idiots who will believe whatever they want for the sake of hating.Quote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
Widely banned....but not in nevada where floyd uses it though. So nothing dodgy. Everyone can use it so there is no disadvantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by zboltit's a fact Xylocaine is not banned in 1 state (nevada) but there's valid reasons too why it's banned in 49 other usa states. it's safe to say Xylocaine is a widely banned illegal substanceQuote:
Originally Posted by ilovebruceleeQuote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
LOL now your speaking my language. I have spent this whole thread trying to figure out why this so called revelation even matters when hes never used it out of nevada.
The aim of this whole conversation is to say "hey mayweather is a cheater too" when it only counts as cheating when something is illegal and it has been made quite clear in this topic that it is not illegal in Nevada so i really think the writer of the article has failed epically.
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesdude give it up, Floyd only uses xylocaine for his hands due to him having incredibly fragile hands, if it was helping him hit harder at all he'd have a hell of a lot more KO's as of lateQuote:
Originally Posted by zboltit's a fact Xylocaine is not banned in 1 state (nevada) but there's valid reasons too why it's banned in 49 other usa states. it's safe to say Xylocaine is a widely banned illegal substanceQuote:
Originally Posted by ilovebrucelee
his fights from 2000 to 2009
Gregorio Vargas - UD
Emanuel Augustus - TKO
Diego Corrales - TKO
Carlos Hernandez - UD
Jesus Chavez - TKO
Jose Luis Castillo - UD
Jose Luis Castillo II - UD
Victoriano Sosa - UD
Phillip N'dou - TKO
DeMarcus Corley - UD
Henry Bruseles - TKO
Arturo Gatti - TKO
Sharmba Mitchell - TKO
Zab Judah - UD
Carlos Baldomir - UD
Oscar De La Hoya - SD
Ricky Hatton - TKO
Juan Manuel Marquez - UD
so that's 10 decisions to 8 KO's, 6 of those KO's being at 140 and under
hmmmm yea those pain killers are making Floyd a mini Tyson :mad::mad::mad::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Xylocaine or Lidocaine is both anesthetic and stimulant/psychoactive drugs which induce temporary improvements in either mental or physical function or both. Examples of these kinds of effects may include enhanced alertness, wakefulness, and locomotion, among others.
Cocaine and Lidocaine have similar psychological euphorigenic effects after intranasal application. Lidocaine is often used as additive to cocaine to form "crack".
It may not make Floyd mini Tyson but it can provide him advantage over a non-using opponent.
Well if they are so worried about it then they are free to use it themselves ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by WaleedQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesdude give it up, Floyd only uses xylocaine for his hands due to him having incredibly fragile hands, if it was helping him hit harder at all he'd have a hell of a lot more KO's as of lateQuote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
his fights from 2000 to 2009
Gregorio Vargas - UD
Emanuel Augustus - TKO
Diego Corrales - TKO
Carlos Hernandez - UD
Jesus Chavez - TKO
Jose Luis Castillo - UD
Jose Luis Castillo II - UD
Victoriano Sosa - UD
Phillip N'dou - TKO
DeMarcus Corley - UD
Henry Bruseles - TKO
Arturo Gatti - TKO
Sharmba Mitchell - TKO
Zab Judah - UD
Carlos Baldomir - UD
Oscar De La Hoya - SD
Ricky Hatton - TKO
Juan Manuel Marquez - UD
so that's 10 decisions to 8 KO's, 6 of those KO's being at 140 and under
hmmmm yea those pain killers are making Floyd a mini Tyson :mad::mad::mad::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Xylocaine or Lidocaine is both anesthetic and stimulant/psychoactive drugs which induce temporary improvements in either mental or physical function or both. Examples of these kinds of effects may include enhanced alertness, wakefulness, and locomotion, among others.
Cocaine and Lidocaine have similar psychological euphorigenic effects after intranasal application. Lidocaine is often used as additive to cocaine to form "crack".
It may not make Floyd mini Tyson but it can provide him advantage over a non-using opponent.
Since when does an anesthetic make you more alert? Are you sure it doesnt mean with an adrenaline injection or something? Every site i look at regarding this drug said it was more likely to cause nausea and make you tired then to make you more alert.Quote:
Originally Posted by WaleedQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesdude give it up, Floyd only uses xylocaine for his hands due to him having incredibly fragile hands, if it was helping him hit harder at all he'd have a hell of a lot more KO's as of lateQuote:
Originally Posted by zbolt
his fights from 2000 to 2009
Gregorio Vargas - UD
Emanuel Augustus - TKO
Diego Corrales - TKO
Carlos Hernandez - UD
Jesus Chavez - TKO
Jose Luis Castillo - UD
Jose Luis Castillo II - UD
Victoriano Sosa - UD
Phillip N'dou - TKO
DeMarcus Corley - UD
Henry Bruseles - TKO
Arturo Gatti - TKO
Sharmba Mitchell - TKO
Zab Judah - UD
Carlos Baldomir - UD
Oscar De La Hoya - SD
Ricky Hatton - TKO
Juan Manuel Marquez - UD
so that's 10 decisions to 8 KO's, 6 of those KO's being at 140 and under
hmmmm yea those pain killers are making Floyd a mini Tyson :mad::mad::mad::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Xylocaine or Lidocaine is both anesthetic and stimulant/psychoactive drugs which induce temporary improvements in either mental or physical function or both. Examples of these kinds of effects may include enhanced alertness, wakefulness, and locomotion, among others.
Cocaine and Lidocaine have similar psychological euphorigenic effects after intranasal application. Lidocaine is often used as additive to cocaine to form "crack".
It may not make Floyd mini Tyson but it can provide him advantage over a non-using opponent.
Lidocaine when used with epinephrine can be PED.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovebruceleeSince when does an anesthetic make you more alert? Are you sure it doesnt mean with an adrenaline injection or something? Every site i look at regarding this drug said it was more likely to cause nausea and make you tired then to make you more alert.Quote:
Originally Posted by WaleedQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Xylocaine or Lidocaine is both anesthetic and stimulant/psychoactive drugs which induce temporary improvements in either mental or physical function or both. Examples of these kinds of effects may include enhanced alertness, wakefulness, and locomotion, among others.
Cocaine and Lidocaine have similar psychological euphorigenic effects after intranasal application. Lidocaine is often used as additive to cocaine to form "crack".
It may not make Floyd mini Tyson but it can provide him advantage over a non-using opponent.
Not all anesthetics are sedative, if that's what you mean, like cocaine, and morphine.
and yet he's only used Xylocaine, which is JUST an anesthetic, meaning it numbs his hands...Quote:
Originally Posted by WaleedLidocaine when used with epinephrine can be PED.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilovebruceleeSince when does an anesthetic make you more alert? Are you sure it doesnt mean with an adrenaline injection or something? Every site i look at regarding this drug said it was more likely to cause nausea and make you tired then to make you more alert.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waleed
Not all anesthetics are sedative, if that's what you mean, like cocaine, and morphine.
you mix clorox with toilet cleaner and aluminum it makes a bomb, yet none of them are illegal substances when used individually :-X