"Floyd is Boring" - Why do you think so?

Hey guys long time, hope all is well. i still check in from time to time to see whats up and still following along with mthe boxing. saw the barker martinez fight most recently. pretty surprised!
anyway..a question. i always hear "floyd is boring" but i cant remember a fight since..perhaps Baldomir that can be considered boring? (i still enjoyed that fight too)

Lets look at his last fee fights :

Vs Ortiz - action packed 4 rounds and controversial ending. dissapointing but not boring.

Vs Mosley - offensive masterclass. 2nd round drama. no way boring

Vs Marquez - never understood people calling this boring. Amazing offensive and defensive display of boxing. the purists would have been in awe (im not talking about the weight issue here)

VS Hatton - scrappy but filled with action. awesome round 8 and and a sweet ending.

Vs ODLH - take away the hype and this fight a pretty damn good chess match where Floyd came closest to losing. think back to when you were watching it. You cant have been bored.

Ok so what fight and specifically why in that fight did you find floyd boring?

Discuss! :)

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Originally Posted by Althugz

Ok so what fight and specifically why in that fight did you find floyd boring?

Discuss! :)

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Floyd must not be all that "boring", his PPV's outsell everyone else's, so he has a fan base, even if 50% of them are fan's buying in the hopes of seeing him lose.

Having said that, i'm not a fan of Mayweather, and I don't care how "talented" he is, on principal I refuse to buy any PPV he's part of, that's just the way it is.

I think he was on his way to really exploding on Ortiz if he just kept his head a bit. Nothing but props for smackng around Mosley though with respect to Marquez, that fight irked me. It was all about selling tag of "p4p" and seemed cheap.

Inactivity is another point of being boring. The man hit peak stride after feeding Hatton the turnbuckle and then.....:vanish: I think years from now he may wish he had kept going instead of seeing Manny, and all others for that matter storm into the front.

I think folks don't like his safety 1st approach & the fact that he takes very few risks, but I personally have enjoyed many of his bouts. Against Ortiz & Mosley he was right there the entire fight

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Originally Posted by Althugz

Hey guys long time, hope all is well. i still check in from time to time to see whats up and still following along with mthe boxing. saw the barker martinez fight most recently. pretty surprised!
anyway..a question. i always hear "floyd is boring" but i cant remember a fight since..perhaps Baldomir that can be considered boring? (i still enjoyed that fight too)

Lets look at his last fee fights :

Vs Ortiz - action packed 4 rounds and controversial ending. dissapointing but not boring. You're right. Controversial, disappointing ending, but 1st 4 rounds were not boring.

Vs Mosley - offensive masterclass. 2nd round drama. no way boring First disagreement. After the 2nd round, it became boring, although it was more Mosley's fault than it was Floyd's.

Vs Marquez - never understood people calling this boring. Amazing offensive and defensive display of boxing. the purists would have been in awe (im not talking about the weight issue here) Not as boring as PFB-Mosley, but so one-sided that in a way it was, well... boring. JMM had no business at that weight.

VS Hatton - scrappy but filled with action. awesome round 8 and and a sweet ending. I was so happy to see Hatton not being allowed to grab and maul, I remember mostly the ending, which I thoroughly enjoyed.

Vs ODLH - take away the hype and this fight a pretty damn good chess match where Floyd came closest to losing. think back to when you were watching it. You cant have been bored. You hit the nail on the head... "chess match". That's not what I paid good money to watch. Two guys wanting to impress with their boxing skills, and neither wanting to let it all hang out. Not my favorite fight.

Ok so what fight and specifically why in that fight did you find floyd boring?

Discuss! :)

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Hope this helps.

I don't think these are boring fights at all. I enjoy a cerebral fight such as floyd brings. It did get a bit boring against Tata, perhaps. In general, I prefer an intelligent fight that moves toward war over a fight that is all blood and energy.

Not that the others aren't fun to watch. Gatti-Ward, really good entertainment. Really good.

But I'd rather watch Floyd. Hopkins, too, haters be damned.

I think Mayweather is seen as boring because he is so good that his fights are almost never competitive.

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I think Mayweather is seen as boring because he is so good that his fights are almost never competitive.

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Good point, the Marquez and Mosley fights come to mind, neither were worth watching.

Obviously i will side with mayweather but i thought the main foundation of boxing is "to hit and not be hit"?
I think floyd does that better than anyone Apart from maybe pernall whittiker and the goat Jack johnson.
Boring to me is the heavyweight divison in the state it is now.
Floyd ticks all the boxes of what boxing is all about and leaving top rank in your prime to set your own company must be respected.😊

Think it depends on if you got a love for just action or a love for timing or maybe both.

Some action lovers may see him as a spoiler of others styles and others may see it as masterful timing.

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I think Mayweather is seen as boring because he is so good that his fights are almost never competitive.

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Good point, the Marquez and Mosley fights come to mind, neither were worth watching.

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And why were they not competitive? Because Marquez was WAY in over his head... he never belonged at that weight in the first place. Proof? He went scurrying back as soon as the massacre was over. Mosley wobbled Mayweather in the 2nd round with a good right hand, and then UNEXPLICABLY went into a defensive, sorry-ass shell. I've never seen Father Time arrive in the middle of a fight.

Was any of this Floyd's fault? Probably not. They put truckloads of money in front of him to massacre Marquez... and he took it. I probably would've done the same thing. Does it sort of anger fans who want to see Floyd take on the more dangerous fighters his own weight and size? You betcha. Against Mosley, give Floyd some credit for withstanding the right hand and making the necessary adjustments. But Mosley helped by crashing faster than the stock market in the Great Depression.

Credit to Floyd also for giving Ortiz a shot. Who was to know that the kid would have a mental breakdown and launch his head at Floyd's face, only to compound the error by going all "kissie-poo" on Floyd and getting KTFO'ed?

All you defensive Floyd fans: Not everyone that doesn't bow at Pretty Boy's altar is a hater. Some of us are just normal boxing fans who would like to see Floyd be involved in a good scrap, for crying out loud! Forget the posturing.... forget the calculated inactivity.... forget the precious "0".... forget who said what and who did what........ just get the f*ck out there and fight! Take on everyone on the horizon... and THEN retire.

Floyd always finds a way to win, he must go down as one of the most stratigic boxers ever, he adapts to beat watever styled boxer is infront of him, its definetly not slways pretty or great to watch but hes bloody effective!!! I just wish he'd fight pac now......... To see if he cud find away round pacs furious attacks
And speed?!?

It may be he is to good for any body that's about in boxing today? boring to some he is a bit like marmite you love it or you dont but you do have to say he is very GOOD?;D:sheep:

Why is Floyd boring? Because he throws 30 punches a round and they are single punches at that.

Joe Calzaghe who has little power is the personification of exciting. By marked contrast Floyd is coma inducing.

Floyd/Marquez? We all knew it was a mismatch. Fucking bore.
Floyd/Baldomir? Eating shit would be more fun that watch that.
Floyd/Ortiz? Sucker punch to end the fight and go home early. Crap.
Floyd/Mosley? Way to carry an old man.

I don't find Floyd boring but he has been in boring fights.

Two fights of his i found boring was Marquez and Baldomir. Now i see what you mean by his amazing display of offense and defense but his opponents were completely overmatched.

Marquez is a great fighter but not at welterweight and Baldomir was one of the worst champs the sport has seen imo.

I liked his fights against Mosley, De La Hoya and Hatton. The Ortiz fight looked like it was going to be very good until he sucker punched his way to a KO win. I know it was legal but a lame way to end a fight.

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Why is Floyd boring? Because he throws 30 punches a round and they are single punches at that.

Joe Calzaghe who has little power is the personification of exciting. By marked contrast Floyd is coma inducing.

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Why compare them though Miles? That is solely your opinion, it's like saying Mayweather is a complete bore in contrast to Gatti. Look what happned when they fought. Mayweather is clearly a better fighter than Calzaghe was who has taken far less punishment against better opposition. You can nitpick any single fight anyone has ever had, it's really boring.

Floyd was boring whilst at welterweight very early on and certainly avoiding dangerous fights but he is a class act now and offensive when he wants to be.

This is not math's it's boxing Floyd may be boring to some, it's all about what you like?as I said he is very good.What more can you say has he beat all his opponent's yes and a great WORLD CHAMPION.;D

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I think Mayweather is seen as boring because he is so good that his fights are almost never competitive.

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Good point, the Marquez and Mosley fights come to mind, neither were worth watching.

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And why were they not competitive? Because Marquez was WAY in over his head... he never belonged at that weight in the first place. Proof? He went scurrying back as soon as the massacre was over. Mosley wobbled Mayweather in the 2nd round with a good right hand, and then UNEXPLICABLY went into a defensive, sorry-ass shell. I've never seen Father Time arrive in the middle of a fight.

Was any of this Floyd's fault? Probably not. They put truckloads of money in front of him to massacre Marquez... and he took it. I probably would've done the same thing. Does it sort of anger fans who want to see Floyd take on the more dangerous fighters his own weight and size? You betcha. Against Mosley, give Floyd some credit for withstanding the right hand and making the necessary adjustments. But Mosley helped by crashing faster than the stock market in the Great Depression.

Credit to Floyd also for giving Ortiz a shot. Who was to know that the kid would have a mental breakdown and launch his head at Floyd's face, only to compound the error by going all "kissie-poo" on Floyd and getting KTFO'ed?

All you defensive Floyd fans: Not everyone that doesn't bow at Pretty Boy's altar is a hater. Some of us are just normal boxing fans who would like to see Floyd be involved in a good scrap, for crying out loud! Forget the posturing.... forget the calculated inactivity.... forget the precious "0".... forget who said what and who did what........ just get the f*ck out there and fight! Take on everyone on the horizon... and THEN retire.

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Right, everyone who doesn't admit that Floyd is the most talented/gifted boxer to ever lace up a pair of gloves must therefore be a "hater".

I've just never been a fan of, or all that interested in Mayweather or his fights, and a big part of that is because of the way this clown acts. I guess must not be a "true" fan of the sweet science or i'd be a flomo.

P.S. Ortiz kissing and hugging Mayweather had to be one of the most sickening things i've ever witnessed in boxing.

I just can't undestand basing whether you will watch any athlete or not on their character outside of the sport, especially this one. It's boxing for christs sake, do you expect someone who beats people up for a living to be the type you'd absolutely love to have over for dinner? Having said this I do appreciate that Mayweather is an absolute mentalist of the highest order and completely insufferable, therefore I don't listen to his interviews or anything, its easy. I've enjoyed watching him and his cracked out family in some of the 24/7 episodes though, he has really carried that show and made it a good format for promoting fights.

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I just can't undestand basing whether you will watch any athlete or not on their character outside of the sport, especially this one. It's boxing for christs sake, do you expect someone who beats people up for a living to be the type you'd absolutely love to have over for dinner? Having said this I do appreciate that Mayweather is an absolute mentalist of the highest order and completely insufferable, therefore I don't listen to his interviews or anything, its easy. I've enjoyed watching him and his cracked out family in some of the 24/7 episodes though, he has really carried that show and made it a good format for promoting fights.

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I think we've had this convo before, I don't expect that you'll get it, but in order for me to be a "fan" of someone, I usually like something about them as a person. In Mayweather's case, I just can't find anything i've ever liked him, plus i've never really enjoyed any of his fights.

Dont get me wrong as a person Floyd come's across as a dickhead,but as a boxer a very good one too boot.as I myself can not stand B Hopp as a person or as a fighter i find him boring,as fan's we have like's and dislike's that's life?;D

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I just can't undestand basing whether you will watch any athlete or not on their character outside of the sport, especially this one. It's boxing for christs sake, do you expect someone who beats people up for a living to be the type you'd absolutely love to have over for dinner? Having said this I do appreciate that Mayweather is an absolute mentalist of the highest order and completely insufferable, therefore I don't listen to his interviews or anything, its easy. I've enjoyed watching him and his cracked out family in some of the 24/7 episodes though, he has really carried that show and made it a good format for promoting fights.

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I think we've had this convo before, I don't expect that you'll get it, but in order for me to be a "fan" of someone, I usually like something about them as a person. In Mayweather's case, I just can't find anything i've ever liked him, plus i've never really enjoyed any of his fights.

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Perhaps we have, lol don't remember. I just feel that since we are fans of boxing foremost, that a fighters ability in the ring should be the most pertanent aspect of their person. I'm not really a "fan" of any fighters, just really enjoy watching great defensive work. I would love to see Mayweather get his ass kicked for whatever that's worth, god knows he deserves it. I don't care to know much about any athlete outside of what they do in their sport, but I do understand taking a different stance on that and I certainly draw the line in some cases. I think Margarito should be in jail for instance, so would never pay to watch him fight even if I really wanted to. I also completely understand why some people don't enjoy watching Mayweather fight, but imo he is quite clearly the most talented fighter currently in the sport so to completely write him off just based on his being a jackass kind of puzzles me is all.

There is nothing boring about Floyd as long as you really understand what you are watching. Hit without getting hit is the name of the game and no one does it better than Floyd so how anyone could find him boring is beyond me... Anyone who's a purist and appreciates the sweet science loves watching floyd mayweather. It's amazing what he does in there plain and simple...

If you're a fan of mindless brawls, then floyd is not going to float your boat. Moving forward while blocking punches with its face, not having any creativity to their offense, showing no angles, skills or ring smarts.. If someone is into all that, then they be turned off by FLoyd, naturally.

To me, Floyd is more exciting than Pacman.. I'd rather watch someone best their opponent by outsmarting them and outboxing them, rather than beating them through natural talents/ability...

Agreed with the above. What kills me is people who seem to enjoy watching one sided fights without good defensive work being shown from either guy.

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I just can't undestand basing whether you will watch any athlete or not on their character outside of the sport, especially this one. It's boxing for christs sake, do you expect someone who beats people up for a living to be the type you'd absolutely love to have over for dinner? Having said this I do appreciate that Mayweather is an absolute mentalist of the highest order and completely insufferable, therefore I don't listen to his interviews or anything, its easy. I've enjoyed watching him and his cracked out family in some of the 24/7 episodes though, he has really carried that show and made it a good format for promoting fights.

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I think we've had this convo before, I don't expect that you'll get it, but in order for me to be a "fan" of someone, I usually like something about them as a person. In Mayweather's case, I just can't find anything i've ever liked him, plus i've never really enjoyed any of his fights.

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Perhaps we have, lol don't remember. I just feel that since we are fans of boxing foremost, that a fighters ability in the ring should be the most pertanent aspect of their person. I'm not really a "fan" of any fighters, just really enjoy watching great defensive work. I would love to see Mayweather get his ass kicked for whatever that's worth, god knows he deserves it. I don't care to know much about any athlete outside of what they do in their sport, but I do understand taking a different stance on that and I certainly draw the line in some cases. I think Margarito should be in jail for instance, so would never pay to watch him fight even if I really wanted to. I also completely understand why some people don't enjoy watching Mayweather fight, but imo he is quite clearly the most talented fighter currently in the sport so to completely write him off just based on his being a jackass kind of puzzles me is all.

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Yeah, but admit it, you have your favorites and usually root for one fighter or the other when they get in the ring.

I'm a fan of boxing, so it's not like I don't know the results of Mayweather's fights, even if it's just because i'm interested in the pug Mayweather is fighting. (like Mosley for example) For this reason, I find streams to watch, but refuse buy a PPV that Mayweather is part of. These days I get "DIRECTV" (satellite) here in the States, the HD is crystal clear, if Mayweather ever grows a pair and agrees to fight Pacquiao, I may have to break down and buy it. :-X

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There is nothing boring about Floyd as long as you really understand what you are watching. Hit without getting hit is the name of the game and no one does it better than Floyd so how anyone could find him boring is beyond me... Anyone who's a purist and appreciates the sweet science loves watching floyd mayweather. It's amazing what he does in there plain and simple...

If you're a fan of mindless brawls, then floyd is not going to float your boat. Moving forward while blocking punches with its face, not having any creativity to their offense, showing no angles, skills or ring smarts.. If someone is into all that, then they be turned off by FLoyd, naturally.

To me, Floyd is more exciting than Pacman.. I'd rather watch someone best their opponent by outsmarting them and outboxing them, rather than beating them through natural talents/ability...

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This statement pretty much sums up boxing.. Remember not everyone believes the rocky movies and all this fight for your life bollocks.
Floyd and manny are like chalk and cheese. The majority will like manny because he is open and doesnt mind getting hit..but thats not smart and floyd is smart.

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There is nothing boring about Floyd as long as you really understand what you are watching. Hit without getting hit is the name of the game and no one does it better than Floyd so how anyone could find him boring is beyond me... Anyone who's a purist and appreciates the sweet science loves watching floyd mayweather. It's amazing what he does in there plain and simple...

If you're a fan of mindless brawls, then floyd is not going to float your boat. Moving forward while blocking punches with its face, not having any creativity to their offense, showing no angles, skills or ring smarts.. If someone is into all that, then they be turned off by FLoyd, naturally.

To me, Floyd is more exciting than Pacman.. I'd rather watch someone best their opponent by outsmarting them and outboxing them, rather than beating them through natural talents/ability...

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This statement pretty much sums up boxing.. Remember not everyone believes the rocky movies and all this fight for your life bollocks.
Floyd and manny are like chalk and cheese. The majority will like manny because he is open and doesnt mind getting hit..but thats not smart and floyd is smart.

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I think Mayweather is seen as boring because he is so good that his fights are almost never competitive.

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Good point, the Marquez and Mosley fights come to mind, neither were worth watching.

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And why were they not competitive? Because Marquez was WAY in over his head... he never belonged at that weight in the first place. Proof? He went scurrying back as soon as the massacre was over. Mosley wobbled Mayweather in the 2nd round with a good right hand, and then UNEXPLICABLY went into a defensive, sorry-ass shell. I've never seen Father Time arrive in the middle of a fight.

Was any of this Floyd's fault? Probably not. They put truckloads of money in front of him to massacre Marquez... and he took it. I probably would've done the same thing. Does it sort of anger fans who want to see Floyd take on the more dangerous fighters his own weight and size? You betcha. Against Mosley, give Floyd some credit for withstanding the right hand and making the necessary adjustments. But Mosley helped by crashing faster than the stock market in the Great Depression.

Credit to Floyd also for giving Ortiz a shot. Who was to know that the kid would have a mental breakdown and launch his head at Floyd's face, only to compound the error by going all "kissie-poo" on Floyd and getting KTFO'ed?

All you defensive Floyd fans: Not everyone that doesn't bow at Pretty Boy's altar is a hater. Some of us are just normal boxing fans who would like to see Floyd be involved in a good scrap, for crying out loud! Forget the posturing.... forget the calculated inactivity.... forget the precious "0".... forget who said what and who did what........ just get the f*ck out there and fight! Take on everyone on the horizon... and THEN retire.

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Right, everyone who doesn't admit that Floyd is the most talented/gifted boxer to ever lace up a pair of gloves must otherefore be a "hater".

I've just never been a fan of, or all that interested in Mayweather or his fights, and a big part of that is because of the way this clown acts. I guess must not be a "true" fan of the sweet science or i'd be a flomo.

P.S. Ortiz kissing and hugging Mayweather had to be one of the most sickening things i've ever witnessed in boxing.

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this was a big reason i started this thread..to see if people coin him as "boring" because of specific traits in his fights but for the most part it seems due to the fact people straight dont like him.

The other pattern im seeing is people find him boring because of how dominant he is in his fights...and/or feeling like his fights were a foregone conclusion before they start. interesting answers :) thanks, keep em coming.

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Floyd/Marquez? We all knew it was a mismatch. Fucking bore.
Floyd/Baldomir? Eating shit would be more fun that watch that.
Floyd/Ortiz? Sucker punch to end the fight and go home early. Crap.
Floyd/Mosley? Way to carry an old man.

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Love how Floyd winds you up so much these days that you forget your own previous posts. i distinctly remember you saying before floyd signed for mosley that he was ducking him and youd have respect if he signed as that was the only other fight worth making. surprise surprise miles is going senile and has forgotten lolz!

Reminds me of when daxx said that baldomir was gonna "steamroll" floyd because he was too small and then cussed him out for the victory. its one big LOL in here sometimes!

Check this out for boring!
Master of accuracy and defense!
Cant help but love this guy.

http://m.worldstarhiphop.com/video.php?v=wshh0S5LL62YBXrTjKV0

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I think Mayweather is seen as boring because he is so good that his fights are almost never competitive.

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Good point, the Marquez and Mosley fights come to mind, neither were worth watching.

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And why were they not competitive? Because Marquez was WAY in over his head... he never belonged at that weight in the first place. Proof? He went scurrying back as soon as the massacre was over. Mosley wobbled Mayweather in the 2nd round with a good right hand, and then UNEXPLICABLY went into a defensive, sorry-ass shell. I've never seen Father Time arrive in the middle of a fight.

Was any of this Floyd's fault? Probably not. They put truckloads of money in front of him to massacre Marquez... and he took it. I probably would've done the same thing. Does it sort of anger fans who want to see Floyd take on the more dangerous fighters his own weight and size? You betcha. Against Mosley, give Floyd some credit for withstanding the right hand and making the necessary adjustments. But Mosley helped by crashing faster than the stock market in the Great Depression.

Credit to Floyd also for giving Ortiz a shot. Who was to know that the kid would have a mental breakdown and launch his head at Floyd's face, only to compound the error by going all "kissie-poo" on Floyd and getting KTFO'ed?

All you defensive Floyd fans: Not everyone that doesn't bow at Pretty Boy's altar is a hater. Some of us are just normal boxing fans who would like to see Floyd be involved in a good scrap, for crying out loud! Forget the posturing.... forget the calculated inactivity.... forget the precious "0".... forget who said what and who did what........ just get the f*ck out there and fight! Take on everyone on the horizon... and THEN retire.

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Right, everyone who doesn't admit that Floyd is the most talented/gifted boxer to ever lace up a pair of gloves must therefore be a "hater".

I've just never been a fan of, or all that interested in Mayweather or his fights, and a big part of that is because of the way this clown acts. I guess must not be a "true" fan of the sweet science or i'd be a flomo.

P.S. Ortiz kissing and hugging Mayweather had to be one of the most sickening things i've ever witnessed in boxing.

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I just can't undestand basing whether you will watch any athlete or not on their character outside of the sport, especially this one. It's boxing for christs sake, do you expect someone who beats people up for a living to be the type you'd absolutely love to have over for dinner? Having said this I do appreciate that Mayweather is an absolute mentalist of the highest order and completely insufferable, therefore I don't listen to his interviews or anything, its easy. I've enjoyed watching him and his cracked out family in some of the 24/7 episodes though, he has really carried that show and made it a good format for promoting fights.

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I think we've had this convo before, I don't expect that you'll get it, but in order for me to be a "fan" of someone, I usually like something about them as a person. In Mayweather's case, I just can't find anything i've ever liked him, plus i've never really enjoyed any of his fights.

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Perhaps we have, lol don't remember. I just feel that since we are fans of boxing foremost, that a fighters ability in the ring should be the most pertanent aspect of their person. I'm not really a "fan" of any fighters, just really enjoy watching great defensive work. I would love to see Mayweather get his ass kicked for whatever that's worth, god knows he deserves it. I don't care to know much about any athlete outside of what they do in their sport, but I do understand taking a different stance on that and I certainly draw the line in some cases. I think Margarito should be in jail for instance, so would never pay to watch him fight even if I really wanted to. I also completely understand why some people don't enjoy watching Mayweather fight, but imo he is quite clearly the most talented fighter currently in the sport so to completely write him off just based on his being a jackass kind of puzzles me is all.

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Yeah, but admit it, you have your favorites and usually root for one fighter or the other when they get in the ring.

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Honestly, not overly so. If I do root for anyone its only because I like the way they fight, and if that changes during the course where the other guy starts doing things I like better I'll happily be in his corner on the night. If anything I'd root heavily for anyone who has success against Floyd, I'd love to see him beaten as I feel that would take a hell of a performance from just about anyone and be great for the sport. I will of course admit to being very partial to his style, but that's not rooting for him by any means. It's the people who outright dislike certain fighters for personal reasons that let their judgement cloud what they are actually watching imo.

Some of this difference of opinion is just that people from different countries enjoy certain things. I'm to understand that alot of European boxing fans like the technical aspect of it more than the big punches and knockouts (not to say they don't enjoy that stuff). But Americans enjoy the action packed fights alot more than we do the chess matches so to speak. In my opinion, that's what makes Floyd boring. As many people have pointed out, his safety first approach. If he wants to do that, fine, he's the one fighting, it works for him. But it makes for boredom for the fans. He had opportunites to go for the knockout or atleast beat to a bloody pulp Mosely and DLH, and possibly marquez, but chose to drag it to decision because he didn't want to take ANY risk, none. The reason Floyd sells so many PPV's is because he sells the fight with his mouth, not with his boxing. He's such an ass that people pay to see him lose. Unfortunately, he's going to make sure that boxing never sees the fight that I think he owes us. He doesn't need to fight Kahn, or rematch Ortiz, or any of that. Just Manny. That will cement his legacy. But it's too risky. And Floyd doesn't take risks.

How did he not beat Mosley to a pulp? He did everything BUT knock him out..Marquez, he seemed to be going for the knockout later on but wanted the rounds in it seemed after so long off. I liked that he didn't knock him out because 1) I love Marquez, my favourite Mexican fighter so didn't want to see that and 2) Wanted to see if Floyd had any rust.

Even my friend who dislikes Floyd text me at the end of every round going "Wtf? How is he doing this to Marquez? He's something else" - Ortiz was also on his way to being knocked out.

I didn't think he was safety first against Mosley or Ortiz..but it's a fair statement if people find his style boring. Doesn't make anyone a hater.

P.S. Let's not get into Floyd vs Manny. My opinion as to why that fight hasn't happened yet is the polar opposite to yours but take that topic into one of the million other old threads :lickish: or heck, does that Floyd vs Manny forum still exist? lol

Agreed on the last part of your post. I just wish one of these guys would do to the other what Tarver did to Jones Jr. Tarver made sure he was at all of Roys fights, conferences, and everything which is what drew Roy into the ring. But like I said before, In my opinion, Floyds style is pretty boring, not to say he's not one of the best defensive fighters we've seen. But the title of the post is "why is floyd boring to some" (im paraphrasing). If you're going to draw a comparison solely on entertainment value during a fight, Manny wins that matchup. Who knows if we'll see Floyd in the ring again. I'm sure he'll retire with his unblemished record and a ko percentage above 60% which is decent in my opinion. But history is going to end up blaming him if that fight doesn't come off. Not necessarily because its his fault (who knows what's going on behind the scenes) but because he's a prick in front of the camera while Manny is on his way to quite possibly being the savior of a nation.

I've never thought of floyd as boring, but I know a lot of people who do. I guess you just need to have an appreciation for how technical his game is. Just watching some of his training videos is insane, gives you a lot of respect for the guy (even though hes an egotistical maniac).

First of all, I don't like Floyd but He is a master boxer. He doe his homework and most importantly he goes out of his way to be in shape. Like him or hate him he plies his trade and he is always one up psychologically on his opposition and you can't say that he doesn't like boxing because in the end his hand is always the one I have seen raised by the referee. Boring maybe because his opposition doesn't have what it takes to beat him but Floyd is no fool in the ring, just outside.

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I think Mayweather is seen as boring because he is so good that his fights are almost never competitive.

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Good point, the Marquez and Mosley fights come to mind, neither were worth watching.

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And why were they not competitive? Because Marquez was WAY in over his head... he never belonged at that weight in the first place. Proof? He went scurrying back as soon as the massacre was over. Mosley wobbled Mayweather in the 2nd round with a good right hand, and then UNEXPLICABLY went into a defensive, sorry-ass shell. I've never seen Father Time arrive in the middle of a fight.

Was any of this Floyd's fault? Probably not. They put truckloads of money in front of him to massacre Marquez... and he took it. I probably would've done the same thing. Does it sort of anger fans who want to see Floyd take on the more dangerous fighters his own weight and size? You betcha. Against Mosley, give Floyd some credit for withstanding the right hand and making the necessary adjustments. But Mosley helped by crashing faster than the stock market in the Great Depression.

Credit to Floyd also for giving Ortiz a shot. Who was to know that the kid would have a mental breakdown and launch his head at Floyd's face, only to compound the error by going all "kissie-poo" on Floyd and getting KTFO'ed?

All you defensive Floyd fans: Not everyone that doesn't bow at Pretty Boy's altar is a hater. Some of us are just normal boxing fans who would like to see Floyd be involved in a good scrap, for crying out loud! Forget the posturing.... forget the calculated inactivity.... forget the precious "0".... forget who said what and who did what........ just get the f*ck out there and fight! Take on everyone on the horizon... and THEN retire.

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Right, everyone who doesn't admit that Floyd is the most talented/gifted boxer to ever lace up a pair of gloves must therefore be a "hater".

I've just never been a fan of, or all that interested in Mayweather or his fights, and a big part of that is because of the way this clown acts. I guess must not be a "true" fan of the sweet science or i'd be a flomo.

P.S. Ortiz kissing and hugging Mayweather had to be one of the most sickening things i've ever witnessed in boxing.

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And posting this shit makes you a fucking idiot.

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Right.. so defending your right to not have an unhealthy obsession with all things Floyd Mayweather and then highlighting your post bemoaning Ortizs frankly amateur and two faced hugging apology, which i presume you mentioned to show your balanced unprejudiced appraisal of the fight makes me a fucking idiot. Thanks

I apologise wholeheartedly for defending your right to not to go weak at the knees every time Floyd fights.