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    Default Re: "Floyd is Boring" - Why do you think so?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
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    I think Mayweather is seen as boring because he is so good that his fights are almost never competitive.
    Good point, the Marquez and Mosley fights come to mind, neither were worth watching.


    And why were they not competitive? Because Marquez was WAY in over his head... he never belonged at that weight in the first place. Proof? He went scurrying back as soon as the massacre was over. Mosley wobbled Mayweather in the 2nd round with a good right hand, and then UNEXPLICABLY went into a defensive, sorry-ass shell. I've never seen Father Time arrive in the middle of a fight.

    Was any of this Floyd's fault? Probably not. They put truckloads of money in front of him to massacre Marquez... and he took it. I probably would've done the same thing. Does it sort of anger fans who want to see Floyd take on the more dangerous fighters his own weight and size? You betcha. Against Mosley, give Floyd some credit for withstanding the right hand and making the necessary adjustments. But Mosley helped by crashing faster than the stock market in the Great Depression.

    Credit to Floyd also for giving Ortiz a shot. Who was to know that the kid would have a mental breakdown and launch his head at Floyd's face, only to compound the error by going all "kissie-poo" on Floyd and getting KTFO'ed?

    All you defensive Floyd fans: Not everyone that doesn't bow at Pretty Boy's altar is a hater. Some of us are just normal boxing fans who would like to see Floyd be involved in a good scrap, for crying out loud! Forget the posturing.... forget the calculated inactivity.... forget the precious "0".... forget who said what and who did what........ just get the f*ck out there and fight! Take on everyone on the horizon... and THEN retire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
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    I think Mayweather is seen as boring because he is so good that his fights are almost never competitive.
    Good point, the Marquez and Mosley fights come to mind, neither were worth watching.


    And why were they not competitive? Because Marquez was WAY in over his head... he never belonged at that weight in the first place. Proof? He went scurrying back as soon as the massacre was over. Mosley wobbled Mayweather in the 2nd round with a good right hand, and then UNEXPLICABLY went into a defensive, sorry-ass shell. I've never seen Father Time arrive in the middle of a fight.

    Was any of this Floyd's fault? Probably not. They put truckloads of money in front of him to massacre Marquez... and he took it. I probably would've done the same thing. Does it sort of anger fans who want to see Floyd take on the more dangerous fighters his own weight and size? You betcha. Against Mosley, give Floyd some credit for withstanding the right hand and making the necessary adjustments. But Mosley helped by crashing faster than the stock market in the Great Depression.

    Credit to Floyd also for giving Ortiz a shot. Who was to know that the kid would have a mental breakdown and launch his head at Floyd's face, only to compound the error by going all "kissie-poo" on Floyd and getting KTFO'ed?

    All you defensive Floyd fans: Not everyone that doesn't bow at Pretty Boy's altar is a hater. Some of us are just normal boxing fans who would like to see Floyd be involved in a good scrap, for crying out loud! Forget the posturing.... forget the calculated inactivity.... forget the precious "0".... forget who said what and who did what........ just get the f*ck out there and fight! Take on everyone on the horizon... and THEN retire.
    Right, everyone who doesn't admit that Floyd is the most talented/gifted boxer to ever lace up a pair of gloves must therefore be a "hater".

    I've just never been a fan of, or all that interested in Mayweather or his fights, and a big part of that is because of the way this clown acts. I guess must not be a "true" fan of the sweet science or i'd be a flomo.

    P.S. Ortiz kissing and hugging Mayweather had to be one of the most sickening things i've ever witnessed in boxing.
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    I just can't undestand basing whether you will watch any athlete or not on their character outside of the sport, especially this one. It's boxing for christs sake, do you expect someone who beats people up for a living to be the type you'd absolutely love to have over for dinner? Having said this I do appreciate that Mayweather is an absolute mentalist of the highest order and completely insufferable, therefore I don't listen to his interviews or anything, its easy. I've enjoyed watching him and his cracked out family in some of the 24/7 episodes though, he has really carried that show and made it a good format for promoting fights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    I just can't undestand basing whether you will watch any athlete or not on their character outside of the sport, especially this one. It's boxing for christs sake, do you expect someone who beats people up for a living to be the type you'd absolutely love to have over for dinner? Having said this I do appreciate that Mayweather is an absolute mentalist of the highest order and completely insufferable, therefore I don't listen to his interviews or anything, its easy. I've enjoyed watching him and his cracked out family in some of the 24/7 episodes though, he has really carried that show and made it a good format for promoting fights.

    I think we've had this convo before, I don't expect that you'll get it, but in order for me to be a "fan" of someone, I usually like something about them as a person. In Mayweather's case, I just can't find anything i've ever liked him, plus i've never really enjoyed any of his fights.

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    Dont get me wrong as a person Floyd come's across as a dickhead,but as a boxer a very good one too boot.as I myself can not stand B Hopp as a person or as a fighter i find him boring,as fan's we have like's and dislike's that's life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    I just can't undestand basing whether you will watch any athlete or not on their character outside of the sport, especially this one. It's boxing for christs sake, do you expect someone who beats people up for a living to be the type you'd absolutely love to have over for dinner? Having said this I do appreciate that Mayweather is an absolute mentalist of the highest order and completely insufferable, therefore I don't listen to his interviews or anything, its easy. I've enjoyed watching him and his cracked out family in some of the 24/7 episodes though, he has really carried that show and made it a good format for promoting fights.

    I think we've had this convo before, I don't expect that you'll get it, but in order for me to be a "fan" of someone, I usually like something about them as a person. In Mayweather's case, I just can't find anything i've ever liked him, plus i've never really enjoyed any of his fights.
    Perhaps we have, lol don't remember. I just feel that since we are fans of boxing foremost, that a fighters ability in the ring should be the most pertanent aspect of their person. I'm not really a "fan" of any fighters, just really enjoy watching great defensive work. I would love to see Mayweather get his ass kicked for whatever that's worth, god knows he deserves it. I don't care to know much about any athlete outside of what they do in their sport, but I do understand taking a different stance on that and I certainly draw the line in some cases. I think Margarito should be in jail for instance, so would never pay to watch him fight even if I really wanted to. I also completely understand why some people don't enjoy watching Mayweather fight, but imo he is quite clearly the most talented fighter currently in the sport so to completely write him off just based on his being a jackass kind of puzzles me is all.

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    There is nothing boring about Floyd as long as you really understand what you are watching. Hit without getting hit is the name of the game and no one does it better than Floyd so how anyone could find him boring is beyond me... Anyone who's a purist and appreciates the sweet science loves watching floyd mayweather. It's amazing what he does in there plain and simple...

    If you're a fan of mindless brawls, then floyd is not going to float your boat. Moving forward while blocking punches with its face, not having any creativity to their offense, showing no angles, skills or ring smarts.. If someone is into all that, then they be turned off by FLoyd, naturally.

    To me, Floyd is more exciting than Pacman.. I'd rather watch someone best their opponent by outsmarting them and outboxing them, rather than beating them through natural talents/ability...

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    Agreed with the above. What kills me is people who seem to enjoy watching one sided fights without good defensive work being shown from either guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    There is nothing boring about Floyd as long as you really understand what you are watching. Hit without getting hit is the name of the game and no one does it better than Floyd so how anyone could find him boring is beyond me... Anyone who's a purist and appreciates the sweet science loves watching floyd mayweather. It's amazing what he does in there plain and simple...

    If you're a fan of mindless brawls, then floyd is not going to float your boat. Moving forward while blocking punches with its face, not having any creativity to their offense, showing no angles, skills or ring smarts.. If someone is into all that, then they be turned off by FLoyd, naturally.

    To me, Floyd is more exciting than Pacman.. I'd rather watch someone best their opponent by outsmarting them and outboxing them, rather than beating them through natural talents/ability...
    This statement pretty much sums up boxing.. Remember not everyone believes the rocky movies and all this fight for your life bollocks.
    Floyd and manny are like chalk and cheese. The majority will like manny because he is open and doesnt mind getting hit..but thats not smart and floyd is smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita View Post
    There is nothing boring about Floyd as long as you really understand what you are watching. Hit without getting hit is the name of the game and no one does it better than Floyd so how anyone could find him boring is beyond me... Anyone who's a purist and appreciates the sweet science loves watching floyd mayweather. It's amazing what he does in there plain and simple...

    If you're a fan of mindless brawls, then floyd is not going to float your boat. Moving forward while blocking punches with its face, not having any creativity to their offense, showing no angles, skills or ring smarts.. If someone is into all that, then they be turned off by FLoyd, naturally.

    To me, Floyd is more exciting than Pacman.. I'd rather watch someone best their opponent by outsmarting them and outboxing them, rather than beating them through natural talents/ability...
    This statement pretty much sums up boxing.. Remember not everyone believes the rocky movies and all this fight for your life bollocks.
    Floyd and manny are like chalk and cheese. The majority will like manny because he is open and doesnt mind getting hit..but thats not smart and floyd is smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    I just can't undestand basing whether you will watch any athlete or not on their character outside of the sport, especially this one. It's boxing for christs sake, do you expect someone who beats people up for a living to be the type you'd absolutely love to have over for dinner? Having said this I do appreciate that Mayweather is an absolute mentalist of the highest order and completely insufferable, therefore I don't listen to his interviews or anything, its easy. I've enjoyed watching him and his cracked out family in some of the 24/7 episodes though, he has really carried that show and made it a good format for promoting fights.

    I think we've had this convo before, I don't expect that you'll get it, but in order for me to be a "fan" of someone, I usually like something about them as a person. In Mayweather's case, I just can't find anything i've ever liked him, plus i've never really enjoyed any of his fights.
    Perhaps we have, lol don't remember. I just feel that since we are fans of boxing foremost, that a fighters ability in the ring should be the most pertanent aspect of their person. I'm not really a "fan" of any fighters, just really enjoy watching great defensive work. I would love to see Mayweather get his ass kicked for whatever that's worth, god knows he deserves it. I don't care to know much about any athlete outside of what they do in their sport, but I do understand taking a different stance on that and I certainly draw the line in some cases. I think Margarito should be in jail for instance, so would never pay to watch him fight even if I really wanted to. I also completely understand why some people don't enjoy watching Mayweather fight, but imo he is quite clearly the most talented fighter currently in the sport so to completely write him off just based on his being a jackass kind of puzzles me is all.
    Yeah, but admit it, you have your favorites and usually root for one fighter or the other when they get in the ring.

    I'm a fan of boxing, so it's not like I don't know the results of Mayweather's fights, even if it's just because i'm interested in the pug Mayweather is fighting. (like Mosley for example) For this reason, I find streams to watch, but refuse buy a PPV that Mayweather is part of. These days I get "DIRECTV" (satellite) here in the States, the HD is crystal clear, if Mayweather ever grows a pair and agrees to fight Pacquiao, I may have to break down and buy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    I just can't undestand basing whether you will watch any athlete or not on their character outside of the sport, especially this one. It's boxing for christs sake, do you expect someone who beats people up for a living to be the type you'd absolutely love to have over for dinner? Having said this I do appreciate that Mayweather is an absolute mentalist of the highest order and completely insufferable, therefore I don't listen to his interviews or anything, its easy. I've enjoyed watching him and his cracked out family in some of the 24/7 episodes though, he has really carried that show and made it a good format for promoting fights.

    I think we've had this convo before, I don't expect that you'll get it, but in order for me to be a "fan" of someone, I usually like something about them as a person. In Mayweather's case, I just can't find anything i've ever liked him, plus i've never really enjoyed any of his fights.
    Perhaps we have, lol don't remember. I just feel that since we are fans of boxing foremost, that a fighters ability in the ring should be the most pertanent aspect of their person. I'm not really a "fan" of any fighters, just really enjoy watching great defensive work. I would love to see Mayweather get his ass kicked for whatever that's worth, god knows he deserves it. I don't care to know much about any athlete outside of what they do in their sport, but I do understand taking a different stance on that and I certainly draw the line in some cases. I think Margarito should be in jail for instance, so would never pay to watch him fight even if I really wanted to. I also completely understand why some people don't enjoy watching Mayweather fight, but imo he is quite clearly the most talented fighter currently in the sport so to completely write him off just based on his being a jackass kind of puzzles me is all.
    Yeah, but admit it, you have your favorites and usually root for one fighter or the other when they get in the ring.
    Honestly, not overly so. If I do root for anyone its only because I like the way they fight, and if that changes during the course where the other guy starts doing things I like better I'll happily be in his corner on the night. If anything I'd root heavily for anyone who has success against Floyd, I'd love to see him beaten as I feel that would take a hell of a performance from just about anyone and be great for the sport. I will of course admit to being very partial to his style, but that's not rooting for him by any means. It's the people who outright dislike certain fighters for personal reasons that let their judgement cloud what they are actually watching imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
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    I think Mayweather is seen as boring because he is so good that his fights are almost never competitive.
    Good point, the Marquez and Mosley fights come to mind, neither were worth watching.


    And why were they not competitive? Because Marquez was WAY in over his head... he never belonged at that weight in the first place. Proof? He went scurrying back as soon as the massacre was over. Mosley wobbled Mayweather in the 2nd round with a good right hand, and then UNEXPLICABLY went into a defensive, sorry-ass shell. I've never seen Father Time arrive in the middle of a fight.

    Was any of this Floyd's fault? Probably not. They put truckloads of money in front of him to massacre Marquez... and he took it. I probably would've done the same thing. Does it sort of anger fans who want to see Floyd take on the more dangerous fighters his own weight and size? You betcha. Against Mosley, give Floyd some credit for withstanding the right hand and making the necessary adjustments. But Mosley helped by crashing faster than the stock market in the Great Depression.

    Credit to Floyd also for giving Ortiz a shot. Who was to know that the kid would have a mental breakdown and launch his head at Floyd's face, only to compound the error by going all "kissie-poo" on Floyd and getting KTFO'ed?

    All you defensive Floyd fans: Not everyone that doesn't bow at Pretty Boy's altar is a hater. Some of us are just normal boxing fans who would like to see Floyd be involved in a good scrap, for crying out loud! Forget the posturing.... forget the calculated inactivity.... forget the precious "0".... forget who said what and who did what........ just get the f*ck out there and fight! Take on everyone on the horizon... and THEN retire.
    Right, everyone who doesn't admit that Floyd is the most talented/gifted boxer to ever lace up a pair of gloves must otherefore be a "hater".

    I've just never been a fan of, or all that interested in Mayweather or his fights, and a big part of that is because of the way this clown acts. I guess must not be a "true" fan of the sweet science or i'd be a flomo.

    P.S. Ortiz kissing and hugging Mayweather had to be one of the most sickening things i've ever witnessed in boxing.
    this was a big reason i started this thread..to see if people coin him as "boring" because of specific traits in his fights but for the most part it seems due to the fact people straight dont like him.

    The other pattern im seeing is people find him boring because of how dominant he is in his fights...and/or feeling like his fights were a foregone conclusion before they start. interesting answers thanks, keep em coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mars_ax View Post
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    I think Mayweather is seen as boring because he is so good that his fights are almost never competitive.
    Good point, the Marquez and Mosley fights come to mind, neither were worth watching.


    And why were they not competitive? Because Marquez was WAY in over his head... he never belonged at that weight in the first place. Proof? He went scurrying back as soon as the massacre was over. Mosley wobbled Mayweather in the 2nd round with a good right hand, and then UNEXPLICABLY went into a defensive, sorry-ass shell. I've never seen Father Time arrive in the middle of a fight.

    Was any of this Floyd's fault? Probably not. They put truckloads of money in front of him to massacre Marquez... and he took it. I probably would've done the same thing. Does it sort of anger fans who want to see Floyd take on the more dangerous fighters his own weight and size? You betcha. Against Mosley, give Floyd some credit for withstanding the right hand and making the necessary adjustments. But Mosley helped by crashing faster than the stock market in the Great Depression.

    Credit to Floyd also for giving Ortiz a shot. Who was to know that the kid would have a mental breakdown and launch his head at Floyd's face, only to compound the error by going all "kissie-poo" on Floyd and getting KTFO'ed?

    All you defensive Floyd fans: Not everyone that doesn't bow at Pretty Boy's altar is a hater. Some of us are just normal boxing fans who would like to see Floyd be involved in a good scrap, for crying out loud! Forget the posturing.... forget the calculated inactivity.... forget the precious "0".... forget who said what and who did what........ just get the f*ck out there and fight! Take on everyone on the horizon... and THEN retire.
    Right, everyone who doesn't admit that Floyd is the most talented/gifted boxer to ever lace up a pair of gloves must therefore be a "hater".

    I've just never been a fan of, or all that interested in Mayweather or his fights, and a big part of that is because of the way this clown acts. I guess must not be a "true" fan of the sweet science or i'd be a flomo.

    P.S. Ortiz kissing and hugging Mayweather had to be one of the most sickening things i've ever witnessed in boxing.

    Very true and admitting it does not make you Flomophobic character0193.gif

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    Some of this difference of opinion is just that people from different countries enjoy certain things. I'm to understand that alot of European boxing fans like the technical aspect of it more than the big punches and knockouts (not to say they don't enjoy that stuff). But Americans enjoy the action packed fights alot more than we do the chess matches so to speak. In my opinion, that's what makes Floyd boring. As many people have pointed out, his safety first approach. If he wants to do that, fine, he's the one fighting, it works for him. But it makes for boredom for the fans. He had opportunites to go for the knockout or atleast beat to a bloody pulp Mosely and DLH, and possibly marquez, but chose to drag it to decision because he didn't want to take ANY risk, none. The reason Floyd sells so many PPV's is because he sells the fight with his mouth, not with his boxing. He's such an ass that people pay to see him lose. Unfortunately, he's going to make sure that boxing never sees the fight that I think he owes us. He doesn't need to fight Kahn, or rematch Ortiz, or any of that. Just Manny. That will cement his legacy. But it's too risky. And Floyd doesn't take risks.

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