So who do you think will win the World Cup in Qatar?
With Italy knocked out yesterday it will not be them.
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So who do you think will win the World Cup in Qatar?
With Italy knocked out yesterday it will not be them.
the weather will be a major factor here - evening kick offs don't seem too bad but around 24-25 for daytime kick offs which won't suit us.
We're still missing that key midfielder. I'd fancy us for a run to at least the quarters again then anything can happen but as I get older I think I'm accepting that I may not see a win in my lifetime :-\ There's always 2 or 3 better teams each tournament that have the edge on us.
Still imagine being Italian and you're looking at now a minimum of 12 years between being at a world cup - some Italian players entire careers there.
France will be there or there abouts and the weather will suit the south americans more. Belgium will still have a decent team and never discount the Germans no matter how badly they may have played.
Master - thank you for the invaluable analysis of Italy's chances of winning
The stadiums will be air conditioned so the weather will be fine.
I would rather win a tournament like Italy and fail to get into others because at least you have got something to celebrate.
This thread was for Primo, not you.
Oh in that case may I suggest you DM him in the future rather than making a public thread.
Will be interesting to see how effective this AC is in the stadiums.
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Originally Posted by Master
:o :o :o
Didn't know this and had to look it up.
Suffice it to say I didn't expect for Italy to get knocked out by "powerhouse" North Macedonia. :-X
I remember the disappointment in 94. Only time it's happened for us in my lifetime - well OK 74 and 78 but was too young to know.
How does it feel Primo? Not being a twat asking that by the way and rubbing it in. Genuine question
In 1994 I blame Graham Taylor not using Ian Wright he was on fire. After the success of 86 and 90 world cup we should have at least qualified.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Answering your question mate, it feels shit. And I disagree with @Master about it being better winning something and then not qualifying .Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
After probably never failing to qualify to failing twice on the trot is shameful.
It almost nullifies winning the euros. They mean nothing now.
I really couldn’t give 2 shits who wins it now. I might even protest and boycott the whole thing because of Qatar’s human rights record! ;)
I agree re Qatar and the Saudi grand! prix etc. Shouldn't be happening there especially with all the grief others would be getting.
I also agree re disagreeing with master. I wouldn't want to win something and not qualify for a world Cup. Just being in the tournament and the build up is a great thing. Though ask me again in twenty years if England still haven't won anything and I might have a different answer.
To not qualify twice is unthinkable for a country like Italy.
Italy win tournaments, England have not won since 1966! Those men are legends who probably hate being rolled out each tournament to talk about their win.
Of course I would take a win than not qualifying for a tournament.
European qualification is the easiest by far and they have the weakest teams.......but they also a lot of the best teams. But unlike in other continents. In Europe the best teams will be in groups with a lot weaker teams. Europe still gets 13 out of the 32 places. That's like what ? 45% ? And even though Italy didn't qualify through the group stage. they still had a second chance but couldn't get past the mighty Macedonia
Watch what Portigal do to Macedonia on Tues just to show Italy that they were knocked out to a very very very average team
To be honest I think the real tragedy is the fact one of currently the two strongest teams in Africa (Senegal and Egypt) are not gonna be there.
Meaning either Salah or Mane won't be at Qatar and given their ages this might be there last chance to be at another world cup (And though Salah played 2 out of the 3 games Egypt played in 2018. He wasn't at his best as Sergio Ramos bust up his shoulder in Champions league final and 4 or 5 weeks isnt really enough time for a dislocated shoulder to properly heal. But bcoz he's Egypt's main man they kinda rushed him in there.)
And Senegal and Egypt won their groups but then they had to go to another phase and play a two legged straight knockout match to go through
And when you consider all the best African players. Play for European teams.
I mean world champs France is really an African team. The only proper French men they have in the team are Hugo LLoris, Oliver Giroud and Benajamin Pavard. Mbappe's father is Cameroom and his mom is Algerian. Most of the other blk French players are from Guinea or Congo. The likes Pogba, Kante, Coman etc. Even white players like Grizeman is German and Benezema is Algerian.
Belgium and Lukaku is Congo. Germany's Leroy Sane is from Senegal. In England Saka is Nigeria. Delle Alli's dad is Nigerian. Probably loads more I left out. What a team Africa would have if they just said "Let's forget our tribal sh*t and borders. Let's be one country, one language, one currency and lets recruit all these Africam players who are kicking ass for European teams and bring em home"
They'd win every world cup from now till the end of time
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Dele Alli and Italy have one thing in common, they are not going to the world cup in 2022.
Wow! So much horseshit in one post, where do I start! When you talk about Boxing, you can tell that you’re really knowledgeable. Whereas when you write about Football, it’s clear you know Jack Shit.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0
“ Europe still gets 13 out of the 32 places. That's like what ? 45% ?” - yep, probably. But that probably equates to the amounts of national teams in Europe compared to other regions.
“ And even though Italy didn't qualify through the group stage. they still had a second chance but couldn't get past the mighty Macedonia” - Yeah , they had a play off. The other continents have these as well.
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Watch what Portigal do to Macedonia on Tues just to show Italy that they were knocked out to a very very very average team” uh, I think they know that. I don’t think anyone has tried to say any different. It is nothing short of a national disaster. That’s why it was a shock. :rolleyes:
“ To be honest I think the real tragedy is the fact one of currently the two strongest teams in Africa (Senegal and Egypt) are not gonna be there. “
Luck of the draw mate, surely they base seedlings on previous records . So if the get knocked out, they’ve only got themselves to blame.
“ And when you consider all the best African players. Play for European teams.” yep. Funnily enough, all the European best players play in Europe AND all the best South American players as well. So what’s your point??
“ I mean world champs France is really an African team. The only proper French men they have in the team are Hugo LLoris, Oliver Giroud and Benajamin Pavard. Mbappe's father is Cameroom and his mom is Algerian. Most of the other blk French players are from Guinea or Congo. The likes Pogba, Kante, Coman etc
Now we’re getting to your point. Can’t miss an opportunity like this, can you ?
“ Even white players like Grizeman is German” yeah? And? Is Germany part of Africa now as well? 🤷*♂️
“ Belgium and Lukaku is Congo. Germany's Leroy Sane is from Senegal. In England Saka is Nigeria. Delle Alli's dad is Nigerian. Probably loads more I left out.
You probably have. But big deal. Messi, Maradona, Platini, Scifo, Passarella, Bertone, Di Stefano all had Italian ancestry and qualified for Italy. Probably loads more I left out.
“ What a team Africa would have if they just said [I]"Let's forget our tribal sh*t and borders. Let's be one country, one language, one currency and lets recruit all these Africam players who are kicking ass for European teams and bring em home"
Uhm, Africa isn’t a country, it’s a continent. So I’m sure we could say the same about South America or Europe if they were a country.
“ They'd win every world cup from now till the end of time “ uh, I don’t think so. No African nation has ever come close to winning a World Cup. They’re not the new kids on the block anymore.
Back in the 80’s Pele said an African nation would win a World Cup by the year 2000. In 82 Cameroon drew with the Champions elect. In 90 , they beat the reigning World champions in the opening game of the tournament.
In 2002, Senegal did the the same.
20 years down the line, African football has gone backwards if anything.
Hey wait... not so fast. :D :cool:
All this talk puts the thought of a "Continental World Cup" in my head (even if only in a fantasy, make-believe type of way ;D ).
How would the different continents fare in a playoff?
Antarctica and Australia are eliminated right off the bat. :D The former for obvious reasons... and the latter because it's not really fair is it. One country... one continent.
But the rest would make for an interesting tournament... no?
Central American countries would probably be grouped with North America, which would need all the help they could get.
So how would THAT play out? How would you seed them?
I think the top dog spot would be feverishly fought between South America and Europe.
Africa and North America would probably be the next tier, with Asia bringing up the rear.
What say you? :D
Canada are through to this years world cup!
Everyone goes on about Brazil and Argentina have never failed to qualify but South America qualification always seems easy to me for the big teams.
4 out of 10 guaranteed and the 5th placed team gets a play off chance the last I heard. Is it still the same?
Still the same, 5th placed team play a team like Australia/New Zealand. I am watching Colombia as Luis Diaz of Liverpool are playing today and want to see them in the world cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Argentina have definitely failed to qualify before. I’m pretty certain they weren’t at 1970 off the top of my head. And probably some others times as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
But you’re right , numerically, it’s more or less a 50/50 chance. This is what I was saying about Europe having 45% of the Finals places. There are way more countries in Europe , and before Denny baby pipes up that they’re all shit, I would fancy some middle of the road European side that probably won’t qualify against one of the lesser South American sides that does.
For example, I’d fancy a Czech Republic or a Sweden or an Italy, against an Ecuador or Peru.
Well the fact of the matter is that if you go by the numbers (percentage-wise), Africa... as does Asia and CONCACAF... gets relatively screwed on the number of World Cup qualifiers. (So ol' Denny does have a point).
The percentages favor Europe and South America.
I still think Europe and SA fight it out over the "Continental World Cup"... while Asia brings up the rear. :D
Seriously though... makes you wonder why the uneven percentages between continents. It's not like the sport isn't popular globally.
After some research Argentina have indeed failed to qualify for just one World Cup. 1970. Brazil have not so I was half right.
I sincerely apologise for my mistake and will enter my one month ban period with dignity.
To be fair , I thought it was more, but there’s been a few where they refused to enter. No need for a ban , I’m not @Master, I’m not gonna hold you to some childish forfeit! ;);DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
I think the proportions are pretty fair. I don’t mean to be rude, but historically African nations never had any kind of structured set up . Fuck me , I remember 59 years ago when Zaire didn’t even know the rules of the game at that famous free kick where the guy runs out of the wall and boots the ball away! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
For all the bullshit , there are only 8 teams that have ever won the World Cup. 5 from Europe and 3 from South America.
Tournament will completely change once we expand to the ridiculous 48 teams format.
You'll probably see it held more frequently too.
I hope Qatar get pummeled their 3 group games too.
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Originally Posted by Primo CarneraI think the proportions are pretty fair. I don’t mean to be rude, but historically African nations never had any kind of structured set up . Fuck me , I remember 59 years ago when Zaire didn’t even know the rules of the game at that famous free kick where the guy runs out of the wall and boots the ball away! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
For all the bullshit , there are only 8 teams that have ever won the World Cup. 5 from Europe and 3 from South America.
You're not being rude.
But 9% of the 54 African FIFA-member nations get to qualify, while a whopping 45% of South American and 25% of European countries get to do so?
In both Asia and North/Central America + Caribbean (CONCACAF) it's 10%.
No biggie. I mean, I love to see the likes of Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay and Colombia make it... as they traditionally field good teams.
But I can see where those other continents might have a valid complaint.
Big picture, I usually like the mix of countries in the tournament. But the scale is slightly tipped in favor of the S American and European countries.
Not a tragedy, but something that could probably be tweaked over time.
Poland, Portugal and Senegal through but Egypt out.
I get what you're saying Tito but isn't the idea that you should get your best 32 teams there at the finals?
Europe has the best football teams by far and many miss out. Let's face it the euros are basically the world Cup without Brazil and Argentina when it comes to the business end of the tournaments.
No idea what the split is intended to be when it goes to 48 countries.
Watch your mouth. ......You don't know meQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Not really. Other continents have just as many countries. But one continent (Europe) get's close to half.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0"Europe still gets 13 out of the 32 places. That's like what ? 45% ?”
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
The difference is the African teams have to go through a home and away play off system even if they top their group. If you top your group in Europe you go to the world cup automatically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0"And even though Italy didn't qualify through the group stage. they still had a second chance but couldn't get past the mighty Macedonia” -
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
National disaster ? O Please Italy didn't qualify for the previous world cup as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0"Watch what Portigal do to Macedonia on Tues just to show Italy that they were knocked out to a very very very average team"
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Nothing to do with luck of the draw. Senegal and Egypt won there groups but that wasn't enough bcoz they had to have a play off against each other to see who goes to thr world cup. It'd be like France and Germany who won their groups facing each other to see who goes to the world cup. Would never happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0"To be honest I think the real tragedy is the fact one of currently the two strongest teams in Africa (Senegal and Egypt) are not gonna be there. “
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I was meaning people of African origin playing for European countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0"And when you consider all the best African players. Play for European teams.” yep.
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Just stating facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0“ I mean world champs France is really an African team. The only proper French men they have in the team are Hugo LLoris, Oliver Giroud and Benajamin Pavard. Mbappe's father is Cameroom and his mom is Algerian. Most of the other blk French players are from Guinea or Congo. The likes Pogba, Kante, Coman etc
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Never said it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0"Even white players like Grizeman is German”
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Bet Italy wouldn't turn down those players nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0“ Belgium and Lukaku is Congo. Germany's Leroy Sane is from Senegal. In England Saka is Nigeria. Delle Alli's dad is Nigerian. Probably loads more I left out.
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I know Africa is a continent. But fair point about if S.America and Europe were one country too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0“ What a team Africa would have if they just said [I]"Let's forget our tribal sh*t and borders. Let's be one country, one language, one currency and lets recruit all these Africam players who are kicking ass for European teams and bring em home"
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
If Africa as a continent played as one block and attracted the African players from Europe. They'd be a scary team who'd win every world. Well maybe not every but they'd be at the business end. They'd be like Brazil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0"They'd win every world cup from now till the end of time"
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Pele who ? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I have to agree with you but it's ironic that at under 17 level African teams are very strong
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Rather than gone backwards African teams if anything are punching above there weight. The African domestic leagues cannot be compared to La Liga (Spain), Bundesliga (Germany), Seria (Italy), League 1 in France and Copa Do Brazil. The leagues I mentioned above being to the last 6 Soccer World cup winners. It takes a more than a good league to have the talent to win the world cup.
Football was never developed in Africa before independence, and whoever played it well there eventually found its way into the national teams of the metropolitan powers, like the Mozambican Eusébio, who played for Portugal. Back then, the only African nation where football existed at all was Egypt.
Even after independence the African nations struggled to even form national leagues, national teams etc. The difficulties arising from poverty, lacking communication structure and other things being more a priority. The countries where football developed first were, of course, those which had had more autonomy under colonialism (Egypt) or where the colonial power had invested more on colonisation (Algeria and Morocco).
Money is not all that matters: oil-rich Arab nations are not really much better than the average African nations. Basically football is one of the national sports for most countries. It's incredibly difficult to get to the top. Even traditionally sporting giants like USA, despite all the money and investment in USA mens soccer, I mean they're not chumps and you can't mess about with them and they'd give any team a game but despite the millions spent they're still miles away from doing anything serious at a world cup. Which is funny because USA women's soccer teams are double world champs. Same is true of China men's soccer teams. They didn't even qualify for this years world cup and again they've thrown pots of casg at football.
But I think Senegal could do something this time.
Mexico and USA qualified for the tournament.
China and the US have thrown Money at the game , but there’s no appetite for it in those countries. In the US , there is way too much established competition from other sports. In China, there would be way too much “Governmental influence.”Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0Watch your mouth. ......You don't know meQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Not really. Other continents have just as many countries. But one continent (Europe) get's close to half.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0"Europe still gets 13 out of the 32 places. That's like what ? 45% ?”
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
The difference is the African teams have to go through a home and away play off system even if they top their group. If you top your group in Europe you go to the world cup automatically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0"And even though Italy didn't qualify through the group stage. they still had a second chance but couldn't get past the mighty Macedonia” -
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
National disaster ? O Please Italy didn't qualify for the previous world cup as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0"Watch what Portigal do to Macedonia on Tues just to show Italy that they were knocked out to a very very very average team"
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Nothing to do with luck of the draw. Senegal and Egypt won there groups but that wasn't enough bcoz they had to have a play off against each other to see who goes to thr world cup. It'd be like France and Germany who won their groups facing each other to see who goes to the world cup. Would never happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0"To be honest I think the real tragedy is the fact one of currently the two strongest teams in Africa (Senegal and Egypt) are not gonna be there. “
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I was meaning people of African origin playing for European countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0"And when you consider all the best African players. Play for European teams.” yep.
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Just stating facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0“ I mean world champs France is really an African team. The only proper French men they have in the team are Hugo LLoris, Oliver Giroud and Benajamin Pavard. Mbappe's father is Cameroom and his mom is Algerian. Most of the other blk French players are from Guinea or Congo. The likes Pogba, Kante, Coman etc
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Never said it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0"Even white players like Grizeman is German”
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Bet Italy wouldn't turn down those players nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0“ Belgium and Lukaku is Congo. Germany's Leroy Sane is from Senegal. In England Saka is Nigeria. Delle Alli's dad is Nigerian. Probably loads more I left out.
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I know Africa is a continent. But fair point about if S.America and Europe were one country too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0“ What a team Africa would have if they just said [I]"Let's forget our tribal sh*t and borders. Let's be one country, one language, one currency and lets recruit all these Africam players who are kicking ass for European teams and bring em home"
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
If Africa as a continent played as one block and attracted the African players from Europe. They'd be a scary team who'd win every world. Well maybe not every but they'd be at the business end. They'd be like Brazil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0"They'd win every world cup from now till the end of time"
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Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
Pele who ? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo Carnera
I have to agree with you but it's ironic that at under 17 level African teams are very strong
https://scontent.fman2-1.fna.fbcdn.n...1g&oe=62494FB9
Rather than gone backwards African teams if anything are punching above there weight. The African domestic leagues cannot be compared to La Liga (Spain), Bundesliga (Germany), Seria (Italy), League 1 in France and Copa Do Brazil. The leagues I mentioned above being to the last 6 Soccer World cup winners. It takes a more than a good league to have the talent to win the world cup.
Football was never developed in Africa before independence, and whoever played it well there eventually found its way into the national teams of the metropolitan powers, like the Mozambican Eusébio, who played for Portugal. Back then, the only African nation where football existed at all was Egypt.
Even after independence the African nations struggled to even form national leagues, national teams etc. The difficulties arising from poverty, lacking communication structure and other things being more a priority. The countries where football developed first were, of course, those which had had more autonomy under colonialism (Egypt) or where the colonial power had invested more on colonisation (Algeria and Morocco).
Money is not all that matters: oil-rich Arab nations are not really much better than the average African nations. Basically football is one of the national sports for most countries. It's incredibly difficult to get to the top. Even traditionally sporting giants like USA, despite all the money and investment in USA mens soccer, I mean they're not chumps and you can't mess about with them and they'd give any team a game but despite the millions spent they're still miles away from doing anything serious at a world cup. Which is funny because USA women's soccer teams are double world champs. Same is true of China men's soccer teams. They didn't even qualify for this years world cup and again they've thrown pots of casg at football.
But I think Senegal could do something this time.
Whereas in Africa, there’s loads of Talent, appetite and enthusiasm, but no finances , structure or support.
But Football is so much more than Talent.
I don’t see Senegal winning it, maybe they’ll get to a quarter final, maybe even a Semi, but the winning team will be one of the previous winners. Those are the facts of the matter.
Oh, and spare me the “You don’t know me” bollocks.
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Originally Posted by Mark TKO
When you look at the FIFA world rankings, it supports your point. If you look at # of countries in the top 32 FIFA rankings versus how many qualifiers they get, it looks something like this:
FIFA Confederation - # of qualifiers - # of countries in top 32
UEFA - 13 - 16
CONMEBOL - 4.5 - 6
CONCACAF - 3.5 - 3
CAF - 5 - 4
AFC - 4.5 - 3
So actually, Europe and S America are technically underrepresented in the World Cup, while the others are slightly overrepresented.
Cheers for that - good stat. Again will be interesting to see how the further 16 places are allocated.
By the way I was on my phone and accidentally hit dislike rather than like. No idea how to reverse it
Hey no sweat ;D
Well if they use the current rankings (top 32) as a basis... it would mean the extra 16 places would be allocated as such:
Europe - 8
S America - 3
Africa - 2
CONCACAF - 1.5
Asia - 1.5
Great group for us and under Southgate things look very promising. Bit weird to be do uncharacteristically optimistic as an England fan, but fuck it.
I am happy you are annoyed by africans being wronged, well in your eyes anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0
That has made my day.
You have an opinion on everything you don't ya ?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
When you look at the FIFA world rankings, it supports your point. If you look at # of countries in the top 32 FIFA rankings versus how many qualifiers they get, it looks something like this:
FIFA Confederation - # of qualifiers - # of countries in top 32
UEFA - 13 - 16
CONMEBOL - 4.5 - 6
CONCACAF - 3.5 - 3
CAF - 5 - 4
AFC - 4.5 - 3
So actually, Europe and S America are technically underrepresented in the World Cup, while the others are slightly overrepresented.
How's the giants of football (Soccer) Puerto Rico doing these days ?
I'll wait
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Originally Posted by Denilson3.0You have an opinion on everything you don't ya ? Yes I do. Would you like to hear my opinion on other topics?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
When you look at the FIFA world rankings, it supports your point. If you look at # of countries in the top 32 FIFA rankings versus how many qualifiers they get, it looks something like this:
FIFA Confederation - # of qualifiers - # of countries in top 32
UEFA - 13 - 16
CONMEBOL - 4.5 - 6
CONCACAF - 3.5 - 3
CAF - 5 - 4
AFC - 4.5 - 3
So actually, Europe and S America are technically underrepresented in the World Cup, while the others are slightly overrepresented.
How's the giants of football (Soccer) Puerto Rico doing these days ? We don't DO soccer. We do boxing, baseball, and basketball.
I'll wait
Sorry I couldn't back up your racist views with facts... but then it's tough to defend viewpoints that always center around racism... real or perceived.
Well everything on this planet is rooted in racism.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0You have an opinion on everything you don't ya ? Yes I do. Would you like to hear my opinion on other topics?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
When you look at the FIFA world rankings, it supports your point. If you look at # of countries in the top 32 FIFA rankings versus how many qualifiers they get, it looks something like this:
FIFA Confederation - # of qualifiers - # of countries in top 32
UEFA - 13 - 16
CONMEBOL - 4.5 - 6
CONCACAF - 3.5 - 3
CAF - 5 - 4
AFC - 4.5 - 3
So actually, Europe and S America are technically underrepresented in the World Cup, while the others are slightly overrepresented.
How's the giants of football (Soccer) Puerto Rico doing these days ? We don't DO soccer. We do boxing, baseball, and basketball.
I'll wait
Sorry I couldn't back up your racist views with facts... but then it's tough to defend viewpoints that always center around racism... real or perceived.
Now let's be clear one thing
You brought up race. Not me. I was talking about world cup allocation.
You brought it up.
You have said in previous threads - no white man can be african.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0Well everything on this planet is rooted in racism.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0You have an opinion on everything you don't ya ? Yes I do. Would you like to hear my opinion on other topics?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
When you look at the FIFA world rankings, it supports your point. If you look at # of countries in the top 32 FIFA rankings versus how many qualifiers they get, it looks something like this:
FIFA Confederation - # of qualifiers - # of countries in top 32
UEFA - 13 - 16
CONMEBOL - 4.5 - 6
CONCACAF - 3.5 - 3
CAF - 5 - 4
AFC - 4.5 - 3
So actually, Europe and S America are technically underrepresented in the World Cup, while the others are slightly overrepresented.
How's the giants of football (Soccer) Puerto Rico doing these days ? We don't DO soccer. We do boxing, baseball, and basketball.
I'll wait
Sorry I couldn't back up your racist views with facts... but then it's tough to defend viewpoints that always center around racism... real or perceived.
Now let's be clear one thing
You brought up race. Not me. I was talking about world cup allocation.
You brought it up.
So you brought up race as per usual.
And that was in a previous thread. I never brought race up in this thread and the white man is not indigenous to Africa. No white man or woman is African and I said it in relation to a debate about South Africa.Quote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0Well everything on this planet is rooted in racism.
Now let's be clear one thing
You brought up race. Not me. I was talking about world cup allocation.
You brought it up.
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Don't listen to me because I'm big bad race card playing dude. Right ?
Listen to what white people say (Coz ppl tend to believe what white people say. Because ppl assume that whites are more neutral and objective. It's the Jordan Peterson thing)
Go to 1.30 and listen to what Eugene Terrablance (He's dead now but he was one the biggest white supremacist in S.Africa)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPbExwBJiwY&t
For the first ten years of being Saddo I never talked race. I knew it wouldn't go down well. I knew it get me banned.
But hang on - You know sumtimes u gotta do the Anthony Joshua thing and make non blk ppl feel comfortable but as Will Smith shown last week when you have spent your life making whites and non blks comfortable and being non threatening blk guy, that can wear on you and you can snap at the slightest thing.
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Originally Posted by Denilson3.0Well everything on this planet is rooted in racism.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Denilson3.0You have an opinion on everything you don't ya ? Yes I do. Would you like to hear my opinion on other topics?Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
When you look at the FIFA world rankings, it supports your point. If you look at # of countries in the top 32 FIFA rankings versus how many qualifiers they get, it looks something like this:
FIFA Confederation - # of qualifiers - # of countries in top 32
UEFA - 13 - 16
CONMEBOL - 4.5 - 6
CONCACAF - 3.5 - 3
CAF - 5 - 4
AFC - 4.5 - 3
So actually, Europe and S America are technically underrepresented in the World Cup, while the others are slightly overrepresented.
How's the giants of football (Soccer) Puerto Rico doing these days ? We don't DO soccer. We do boxing, baseball, and basketball.
I'll wait
Sorry I couldn't back up your racist views with facts... but then it's tough to defend viewpoints that always center around racism... real or perceived.
Now let's be clear one thing
You brought up race. Not me. I was talking about world cup allocation.
You brought it up.
And I was explaining what I believe is the basis for World Cup allocation after initially supporting your viewpoint that African nations are somehow slighted. A perception that is proven wrong by the statistics I shared with you.
But you seemed to take exception to that, and posted as such.
To which I calmly and clearly clarified that Puerto Rico doesn't do soccer. An irrelevant fact that shouldn't even have been a topic of conversation, except you thought it might get a rise out of me. :D
But then we all know that your initial post on this thread pretty much insinuated that African nations were somehow being "left out" of equal representation in the World Cup, didn't it. ;)
Why else would you bring that up? Unless it fits together with your constant droning about how "everything on this planet being rooted in racism."
You may not have uttered the word "racism", but your twisted world views practically OOZED out of your post.