HBO: Martinez vs Murray, Arreola vs Stiverne.... Saturday night fight thread

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Originally Posted by chris6878

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Murray says "He won fair and square"....cant fight for a man who wont fight for himself ???

Wow.

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He said he didn't do enough to win "in Argentina". I think he's looking to the future and not wanting to poison the water with HBO more than anything else.

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I agree, in a champs home country you need to destroy the champ to win

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Why though? That logic is absurd and it not found in any other sport.

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Originally Posted by amat

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Can someone who scored the fight for Martinez explain why? He did almost nothing after the 2nd round.

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I thought he stole the 9th and 11th just on activity and Murrays inactivity.

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I think I gave Martinez the 9th, but even in those rounds I thought that Murray was controlling the ring, showing better defence, and landing better punches. Martinez hit gloves all night and little else.

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Martinez won the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 9th, 11th. So with the knockdown I had Murray by 3. It's a robbery to me because you can't really make a case for any other rounds for Martinez. Not to mention the extra knockdown Murray should have been given. I've pretty much had enough of this shit. It's a joke of a sport at times.

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by chris6878

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Murray says "He won fair and square"....cant fight for a man who wont fight for himself ???

Wow.

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He said he didn't do enough to win "in Argentina". I think he's looking to the future and not wanting to poison the water with HBO more than anything else.

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I agree, in a champs home country you need to destroy the champ to win

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Why though? That logic is absurd and it not found in any other sport.

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It's not? Never heard of home field advantage? And we know boxing is the worst offender

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by chris6878

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Murray says "He won fair and square"....cant fight for a man who wont fight for himself ???

Wow.

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He said he didn't do enough to win "in Argentina". I think he's looking to the future and not wanting to poison the water with HBO more than anything else.

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I agree, in a champs home country you need to destroy the champ to win

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Why though? That logic is absurd and it not found in any other sport.

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Yeah it's fucking ridiculous. No destryoying needed. Just win more rounds than your opponent. As Murray did. As far as I'm concerned when the first bell goes the title essentially becomes vacant.

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Originally Posted by chris6878

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Murray says "He won fair and square"....cant fight for a man who wont fight for himself ???

Wow.

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He said he didn't do enough to win "in Argentina". I think he's looking to the future and not wanting to poison the water with HBO more than anything else.

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I agree, in a champs home country you need to destroy the champ to win

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Why though? That logic is absurd and it not found in any other sport.

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It's not? Never heard of home field advantage? And we know boxing is the worst offender

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That's like saying the visiting football team needs to win by more than a field goal or something like that. It's absolutely ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by chris6878

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Murray says "He won fair and square"....cant fight for a man who wont fight for himself ???

Wow.

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He said he didn't do enough to win "in Argentina". I think he's looking to the future and not wanting to poison the water with HBO more than anything else.

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I agree, in a champs home country you need to destroy the champ to win

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Why though? That logic is absurd and it not found in any other sport.

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It's not? Never heard of home field advantage? And we know boxing is the worst offender

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Ok, if you saying it DOES happen, then I agree, if you are saying that it SHOULD happen, then that is what's absurd.

With all due respect folks, it was a close fight. I'm seeing that many people scored the 12th for Murray, and yet Murray admitted he got tagged (suggesting he was a little buzzed) in the 12th. I had it 114-113 for Martinez, and could certainly see the fight for Murray, but this wasn't a robbery by any stretch.

Stiverne looks like he just climbed out of bed

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Originally Posted by chris6878

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by chris6878

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Murray says "He won fair and square"....cant fight for a man who wont fight for himself ???

Wow.

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He said he didn't do enough to win "in Argentina". I think he's looking to the future and not wanting to poison the water with HBO more than anything else.

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I agree, in a champs home country you need to destroy the champ to win

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Why though? That logic is absurd and it not found in any other sport.

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It's not? Never heard of home field advantage? And we know boxing is the worst offender

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Ok, if you saying it DOES happen, then I agree, if you are saying that it SHOULD happen, then that is what's absurd.

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Lol never said it should, just that it does. Just like in football and basketball. Refs giving calls to teams or certain players. Like Jordan.

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Originally Posted by chris6878

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Originally Posted by CFH

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Murray says "He won fair and square"....cant fight for a man who wont fight for himself ???

Wow.

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He said he didn't do enough to win "in Argentina". I think he's looking to the future and not wanting to poison the water with HBO more than anything else.

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I agree, in a champs home country you need to destroy the champ to win

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Thats pretty much the size of it for me. Murray won, but he didnt win. It looked pretty straight forward to seal the deal, impose himself and his size and strength over the last 6 minutes but he couldnt. Martinez deserves some credit for that.

I also agree that Martinez landed next to nothing all night. Once the straight shots to the body stopped he was flicking at gloves all night.

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Originally Posted by gavroche

With all due respect folks, it was a close fight. I'm seeing that many people scored the 12th for Murray, and yet Murray admitted he got tagged (suggesting he was a little buzzed) in the 12th. I had it 114-113 for Martinez, and could certainly see the fight for Murray, but this wasn't a robbery by any stretch.

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Getting tagged once in 3 minutes does not win the round for the other guy,

What a shot.

Arreola is out of it.

Big man from fla is boxing nice. Chris looking terrible

Jab jab body blow!