HBO: Martinez vs Murray, Arreola vs Stiverne.... Saturday night fight thread

[amat]

Can someone who scored the fight for Martinez explain why? He did almost nothing after the 2nd round.

I thought he stole the 9th and 11th just on activity and Murrays inactivity. He didnt land anything effective and Martinez was at least busy.

[CFH]

Can someone who scored the fight for Martinez explain why? He did almost nothing after the 2nd round.

I thought he stole the 9th and 11th just on activity and Murrays inactivity.

I think I gave Martinez the 9th, but even in those rounds I thought that Murray was controlling the ring, showing better defence, and landing better punches. Martinez hit gloves all night and little else.

[chris6878]

Unles he goes to the defense school of bhop he will have to retire. His style doesn't make for a a long career once age takes its tole. Ask roy

[ryanman]

Can someone who scored the fight for Martinez explain why? He did almost nothing after the 2nd round.

I thought he stole the 9th and 11th just on activity and Murrays inactivity.

I think I gave Martinez the 9th, but even in those rounds I thought that Murray was controlling the ring, showing better defence, and landing better punches. Martinez hit gloves all night and little else.

Martinez won the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 9th, 11th. So with the knockdown I had Murray by 3. It's a robbery to me because you can't really make a case for any other rounds for Martinez. Not to mention the extra knockdown Murray should have been given. I've pretty much had enough of this shit. It's a joke of a sport at times.

[beenKOed]

Can someone who scored the fight for Martinez explain why? He did almost nothing after the 2nd round.

I thought he stole the 9th and 11th just on activity and Murrays inactivity.

I think I gave Martinez the 9th, but even in those rounds I thought that Murray was controlling the ring, showing better defence, and landing better punches. Martinez hit gloves all night and little else.

Martinez won the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 9th, 11th. So with the knockdown I had Murray by 3. It's a robbery to me because you can't really make a case for any other rounds for Martinez. Not to mention the extra knockdown Murray should have been given. I've pretty much had enough of this shit. It's a joke of a sport at times.

I agree, Murray was robbed. Martinez is slip sliding away and needs to do some thinking about his career.

[Spicoli]

Murray says "He won fair and square"....cant fight for a man who wont fight for himself

Wow.

[CFH]

Murray says "He won fair and square"....cant fight for a man who wont fight for himself

Wow.

He said he didn't do enough to win "in Argentina". I think he's looking to the future and not wanting to poison the water with HBO more than anything else.

[Spicoli]

Murray says "He won fair and square"....cant fight for a man who wont fight for himself

Wow.

He said he didn't do enough to win "in Argentina". I think he's looking to the future and not wanting to poison the water with HBO more than anything else.

I understand not pissing where you like to eat, but if you feel you won you stand on it on that huge scale. I'm not sure Hbo will even remember his number next week

[chris6878]

Murray says "He won fair and square"....cant fight for a man who wont fight for himself

Wow.

He said he didn't do enough to win "in Argentina". I think he's looking to the future and not wanting to poison the water with HBO more than anything else.

I agree, in a champs home country you need to destroy the champ to win

[CFH]

Murray says "He won fair and square"....cant fight for a man who wont fight for himself

Wow.

He said he didn't do enough to win "in Argentina". I think he's looking to the future and not wanting to poison the water with HBO more than anything else.

I agree, in a champs home country you need to destroy the champ to win

Why though? That logic is absurd and it not found in any other sport.

[chris6878]

Murray says "He won fair and square"....cant fight for a man who wont fight for himself

Wow.

He said he didn't do enough to win "in Argentina". I think he's looking to the future and not wanting to poison the water with HBO more than anything else.

I agree, in a champs home country you need to destroy the champ to win

Why though? That logic is absurd and it not found in any other sport.

It's not? Never heard of home field advantage? And we know boxing is the worst offender

[CFH]

Murray says "He won fair and square"....cant fight for a man who wont fight for himself

Wow.

He said he didn't do enough to win "in Argentina". I think he's looking to the future and not wanting to poison the water with HBO more than anything else.

I agree, in a champs home country you need to destroy the champ to win

Why though? That logic is absurd and it not found in any other sport.

It's not? Never heard of home field advantage? And we know boxing is the worst offender

That's like saying the visiting football team needs to win by more than a field goal or something like that. It's absolutely ridiculous.

[ryanman]

Murray says "He won fair and square"....cant fight for a man who wont fight for himself

Wow.

He said he didn't do enough to win "in Argentina". I think he's looking to the future and not wanting to poison the water with HBO more than anything else.

I agree, in a champs home country you need to destroy the champ to win

Why though? That logic is absurd and it not found in any other sport.

It's not? Never heard of home field advantage? And we know boxing is the worst offender

Ok, if you saying it DOES happen, then I agree, if you are saying that it SHOULD happen, then that is what's absurd.

[ryanman]

Murray says "He won fair and square"....cant fight for a man who wont fight for himself

Wow.

He said he didn't do enough to win "in Argentina". I think he's looking to the future and not wanting to poison the water with HBO more than anything else.

I agree, in a champs home country you need to destroy the champ to win

Why though? That logic is absurd and it not found in any other sport.

Yeah it's fucking ridiculous. No destryoying needed. Just win more rounds than your opponent. As Murray did. As far as I'm concerned when the first bell goes the title essentially becomes vacant.

[Memphis]

Murray says "He won fair and square"....cant fight for a man who wont fight for himself

Wow.

He said he didn't do enough to win "in Argentina". I think he's looking to the future and not wanting to poison the water with HBO more than anything else.

I agree, in a champs home country you need to destroy the champ to win

Thats pretty much the size of it for me. Murray won, but he didnt win. It looked pretty straight forward to seal the deal, impose himself and his size and strength over the last 6 minutes but he couldnt. Martinez deserves some credit for that.

I also agree that Martinez landed next to nothing all night. Once the straight shots to the body stopped he was flicking at gloves all night.