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4 things - the judge ignored the ref! can't do thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Manju
or he thought manny would have won that round 7-10 so with the knockdown scored it 7-9 unlikely OR he scored the 10-8 round that shane went down 10-7
or he was sleeping through most of the fight and just scored it for manny anyway.
clear? good ;D
The best fight of the night was Arce-Vazquez, i'm happy that the tough little mexican was able to win a 3rd title.
Pac-Shane was a stinker, I hope Bob Arum gives us a better opponent for Pacquiao next time, this fight sucked.
There's no one else really unless Pacquiao has a catchweight vs some of the Jr Middleweights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
That was an amazing display by Arce. The guy has guts on tap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
not seen much of shanes early career but was he ever a blood and guts fighter?Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBI appreciate good defensive boxing Missy, one of my favourite fighters is Pernell Whitaker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missyit's about hitting and trying not to get hit yourself not a street brawl which is why so many people seem to like pac because he often makes it his fight - a brawl.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBMosley was on the backfoot constantly against Pacquiao, not taking any risks. It's hard to look good against a good veteran fighter, who's just looking to survive.Quote:
Originally Posted by mafiajoey
It was the same in the rematch with MAB, it's hard too look good against a fighter who's not willing to commit.
And in all honesty Shane Mosley was lucky to win 1 round.
But Mosley didn't even try and win, and as other's have said where was the fire ? he kept touching Pacquiao's gloves basically saying lets slow down a minute WTF.
This is supposed to be a championship fight, the old time greats like Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, certainly wouldn't of laid down like that whether they won or lost they would give it 100 percent.
It's a big if but he could have been looking to survive or hoping to land a perfect right. Whatever the case shane did better than people thought and manny did worse than people thought.
Pure garbage.. One thing for sure. PAC isint sharp as he was and Mayweather would clean him up.. Pac's last few fights against faded handpicked opponents have shown a decline with him IMO. Arum and Roach have done a great job of mitigating Pac's risk
I gave Shane too much credit, maybe because I didnt watch the Mora fight, but this was as bad if not worse than his Mayweather outing, just cant pull that trigger. Hate to say it but you can put a fork in him, he's done. I think this kind of helped Pac's case as far as who would win between him and Mayweather. Mayweather never really hurt Shane as bad as Pac did, and got out boxed just as bad. If Pac gets Floyd in trouble like Shane did, I have no doubt he would finish the job off.
how about Khan? He keeps bleating about how he can hang with Pac in sparring:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
Or is willing to come down to 140. It's not as though he is boiling down to 147.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBThere's no one else really unless Pacquiao has a catchweight vs some of the Jr Middleweights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
Marquez in the fall at 140. Only at 140 though, Marquez would be coming up in weight already.
I think Pac is the new tyson. Everyone has a game plan but when they get in the ring every bit of confidence just seems to drain out. JMM was the exception coz the man is fearless, he comes to fight no matter what. Where as guys like dela hoya and mosley dont seem to be able to fight from adversity, they are either winning or not.
In his early career he was ferocious, especially his body shots they were savage. It's like watching two totally different fighters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missynot seen much of shanes early career but was he ever a blood and guts fighter?Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBI appreciate good defensive boxing Missy, one of my favourite fighters is Pernell Whitaker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missyit's about hitting and trying not to get hit yourself not a street brawl which is why so many people seem to like pac because he often makes it his fight - a brawl.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBMosley was on the backfoot constantly against Pacquiao, not taking any risks. It's hard to look good against a good veteran fighter, who's just looking to survive.Quote:
Originally Posted by mafiajoey
It was the same in the rematch with MAB, it's hard too look good against a fighter who's not willing to commit.
And in all honesty Shane Mosley was lucky to win 1 round.
But Mosley didn't even try and win, and as other's have said where was the fire ? he kept touching Pacquiao's gloves basically saying lets slow down a minute WTF.
This is supposed to be a championship fight, the old time greats like Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, certainly wouldn't of laid down like that whether they won or lost they would give it 100 percent.
It's a big if but he could have been looking to survive or hoping to land a perfect right. Whatever the case shane did better than people thought and manny did worse than people thought.
Watch his battle with Wilfredo Rivera.
Or his destruction of Leija, Johnson, its like it isn't the same fighter.
Or takes a suicide mission to become an immortal by trying to beat the reigning middle king, Sergio Martinez!Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBThere's no one else really unless Pacquiao has a catchweight vs some of the Jr Middleweights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mars_ax
See I think JMM is the exception because he never saw the very best Manny. The guy with a right hand, good balance and solid footwork.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakey
even Shane admitted he has not felt power like that for a long time. Considering PAC was not 100% tonight, now I really want to see PBF vs PAC.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Floyd HAMMERS the Manny that fought tonight. The question is did Manny have an off night (for whatever reason) or is this the slide Father Time imposes on everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pavlikeven Shane admitted he has not felt power like that for a long time. Considering PAC was not 100% tonight, now I really want to see PBF vs PAC.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest