Pacquiao vs. Mosley - Fight Night talk!

[Howlin Mad Missy]

I'm convinced Floyd beats Manny. No question in my mind. Not that I questioned it ever. Can't wait to hear Bob and Pac's excuses and blame on Shane. I thought Shane was prime? LOL

Mosley was on the backfoot constantly against Pacquiao, not taking any risks. It's hard to look good against a good veteran fighter, who's just looking to survive.

It was the same in the rematch with MAB, it's hard too look good against a fighter who's not willing to commit.

And in all honesty Shane Mosley was lucky to win 1 round.

it's about hitting and trying not to get hit yourself not a street brawl which is why so many people seem to like pac because he often makes it his fight - a brawl.

I appreciate good defensive boxing Missy, one of my favourite fighters is Pernell Whitaker.

But Mosley didn't even try and win, and as other's have said where was the fire ? he kept touching Pacquiao's gloves basically saying lets slow down a minute WTF.

This is supposed to be a championship fight, the old time greats like Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, certainly wouldn't of laid down like that whether they won or lost they would give it 100 percent.

not seen much of shanes early career but was he ever a blood and guts fighter?

It's a big if but he could have been looking to survive or hoping to land a perfect right. Whatever the case shane did better than people thought and manny did worse than people thought.

[ICB]

I'm convinced Floyd beats Manny. No question in my mind. Not that I questioned it ever. Can't wait to hear Bob and Pac's excuses and blame on Shane. I thought Shane was prime? LOL

Mosley was on the backfoot constantly against Pacquiao, not taking any risks. It's hard to look good against a good veteran fighter, who's just looking to survive.

It was the same in the rematch with MAB, it's hard too look good against a fighter who's not willing to commit.

And in all honesty Shane Mosley was lucky to win 1 round.

it's about hitting and trying not to get hit yourself not a street brawl which is why so many people seem to like pac because he often makes it his fight - a brawl.

I appreciate good defensive boxing Missy, one of my favourite fighters is Pernell Whitaker.

But Mosley didn't even try and win, and as other's have said where was the fire ? he kept touching Pacquiao's gloves basically saying lets slow down a minute WTF.

This is supposed to be a championship fight, the old time greats like Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, certainly wouldn't of laid down like that whether they won or lost they would give it 100 percent.

not seen much of shanes early career but was he ever a blood and guts fighter?

It's a big if but he could have been looking to survive or hoping to land a perfect right. Whatever the case shane did better than people thought and manny did worse than people thought.

In his early career he was ferocious, especially his body shots they were savage. It's like watching two totally different fighters.

Watch his battle with Wilfredo Rivera.

Or his destruction of Leija, Johnson, its like it isn't the same fighter.

[J_Undisputed]

I'm convinced Floyd beats Manny. No question in my mind. Not that I questioned it ever. Can't wait to hear Bob and Pac's excuses and blame on Shane. I thought Shane was prime? LOL

Mosley was on the backfoot constantly against Pacquiao, not taking any risks. It's hard to look good against a good veteran fighter, who's just looking to survive.

It was the same in the rematch with MAB, it's hard too look good against a fighter who's not willing to commit.

And in all honesty Shane Mosley was lucky to win 1 round.

it's about hitting and trying not to get hit yourself not a street brawl which is why so many people seem to like pac because he often makes it his fight - a brawl.

I appreciate good defensive boxing Missy, one of my favourite fighters is Pernell Whitaker.

But Mosley didn't even try and win, and as other's have said where was the fire ? he kept touching Pacquiao's gloves basically saying lets slow down a minute WTF.

This is supposed to be a championship fight, the old time greats like Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, certainly wouldn't of laid down like that whether they won or lost they would give it 100 percent.

not seen much of shanes early career but was he ever a blood and guts fighter?

It's a big if but he could have been looking to survive or hoping to land a perfect right. Whatever the case shane did better than people thought and manny did worse than people thought.

Not sure about blood and guts, but he would go after guys and look to destroy them. Then he ran into the late Vernon Forrest (RIP)... and any chance of him being a killer after that went out the f*ckin window. He was fine with guys that were at a disadvantage against him. But if you go back and watch that fight, I don't think Shane saw his own blood before that... Theres was a clash of heads Shane saw his own blood, panicked. Vernon caught him with an uppercut from hell. From that point on, I don't recall seeing Shane go after anyone like he did before that. He was put on notice that he wasn't invincible... More importantly, he bought into it completely.

[ICB]

I'm convinced Floyd beats Manny. No question in my mind. Not that I questioned it ever. Can't wait to hear Bob and Pac's excuses and blame on Shane. I thought Shane was prime? LOL

Mosley was on the backfoot constantly against Pacquiao, not taking any risks. It's hard to look good against a good veteran fighter, who's just looking to survive.

It was the same in the rematch with MAB, it's hard too look good against a fighter who's not willing to commit.

And in all honesty Shane Mosley was lucky to win 1 round.

it's about hitting and trying not to get hit yourself not a street brawl which is why so many people seem to like pac because he often makes it his fight - a brawl.

I appreciate good defensive boxing Missy, one of my favourite fighters is Pernell Whitaker.

But Mosley didn't even try and win, and as other's have said where was the fire ? he kept touching Pacquiao's gloves basically saying lets slow down a minute WTF.

This is supposed to be a championship fight, the old time greats like Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, certainly wouldn't of laid down like that whether they won or lost they would give it 100 percent.

not seen much of shanes early career but was he ever a blood and guts fighter?

It's a big if but he could have been looking to survive or hoping to land a perfect right. Whatever the case shane did better than people thought and manny did worse than people thought.

Not sure about blood and guts, but he would go after guys and look to destroy them. Then he ran into the late Vernon Forrest (RIP)... and any chance of him being a killer after that went out the f*ckin window. He was fine with guys that were at a disadvantage against him. But if you go back and watch that fight, I don't think Shane saw his own blood before that... Theres was a clash of heads Shane saw his own blood, panicked. Vernon caught him with an uppercut from hell. From that point on, I don't recall seeing Shane go after anyone like he did before that. He was put on notice that he wasn't invincible... More importantly, he bought into it completely.

Totally agree that beating he took from Vernon Forrest, he never really recovered from IMO.

[Gandalf]

I'm convinced Floyd beats Manny. No question in my mind. Not that I questioned it ever. Can't wait to hear Bob and Pac's excuses and blame on Shane. I thought Shane was prime? LOL

Mosley was on the backfoot constantly against Pacquiao, not taking any risks. It's hard to look good against a good veteran fighter, who's just looking to survive.

It was the same in the rematch with MAB, it's hard too look good against a fighter who's not willing to commit.

And in all honesty Shane Mosley was lucky to win 1 round.

it's about hitting and trying not to get hit yourself not a street brawl which is why so many people seem to like pac because he often makes it his fight - a brawl.

I appreciate good defensive boxing Missy, one of my favourite fighters is Pernell Whitaker.

But Mosley didn't even try and win, and as other's have said where was the fire ? he kept touching Pacquiao's gloves basically saying lets slow down a minute WTF.

This is supposed to be a championship fight, the old time greats like Archie Moore, Ezzard Charles, certainly wouldn't of laid down like that whether they won or lost they would give it 100 percent.

not seen much of shanes early career but was he ever a blood and guts fighter?

It's a big if but he could have been looking to survive or hoping to land a perfect right. Whatever the case shane did better than people thought and manny did worse than people thought.

He was hardly Gatti, but he was never a pure boxer either. A guy that liked to go to war, but because of his combinations and handspeed always came off best. He didn't need to go into the trenches like a blood and guts fighter. Here there was no output, no combinations and because of that we couldn't even see how good the handspeed was.

Mosley of even just half a decade ago was night and day compared to this. I have never seen him so stiff, hesitant and just looking to see it through. Mayweather gave us very good glimpses, but this was considerably worse.

It really looked like a fighter looking for his last paycheck and I take no satisfaction in saying such a thing.

He still has the know how to go the distance, but has forgotten how to win rounds at the top.