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Sammy Vasquez entered the Welterweight ratings in dominant fashion.
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SUPER-WELTERWEIGHT:
Number ten Carlos Molina (24-6-2, 8 KOs) knocked out unrated Jose Agustin Feria (20-3-1, 13 KOs) in the eighth round. No changes.
WELTERWEIGHT:
Number eight Danny Garcia (32-0, 18 KOs) won a hard fought twelve round unanimous decision over fringe contender Robert Guerrero (33-4-1, 18 KOs). Sammy Vasquez (21-0, 15 KOs) enters at number nine after defeating the man who previously held that spot Aaron Martinez (20-5-1, 4 KOs) by sixth round stoppage when Martinez failed to come out for round seven after injuring his left arm. Martinez exits.
SUPER-FLYWEIGHT:
Number three Srisaket Sor Rungvisai (38-4-1, 35 KOs) scored a fourth round KO over unrated novice Arega Yunian (3-6, 0 KOs). No changes.
LIGHT-FLYWEIGHT:
Number ten Rey Loreto (21-13, 13 KOs) knocked out an unknown opponent in the first round. No changes.
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Sergey Kovalev was ruthless.
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LIGHT-HEAVYWEIGHT:
Number one contender Sergey Kovalev (29-0-1, 26 KOs) punished previous number five Jean Pascal (30-4-1, 17 KOs) for seven rounds before Pascal’s Hall of Fame trainer Freddie Roach called an end to the beat-down. Pascal tumbles to eighth. Andrzej Fonfara (28-3, 16 KOs), Eleider Alvarez (19-0, 10 KOs) and Vyacheslav Shabranskyy (15-0, 12 KOs) all move up a spot each to fifth, sixth and seventh respectively.
SUPER-MIDDLEWEIGHT:
Number four George Groves (22-3, 17 KOs) stopped unrated Andrea Di Luisa (18-4, 14 KOs) in five rounds. No changes.
FEATHERWEIGHT:
Previous number nine Robinson Castellanos (23-11, 13 KOs) exits due to inactivity. Eric Hunter (21-3, 11 KOs) moves up a place from tenth to ninth. Marvin Sonsona (20-1-1, 15 KOs) returns to the ratings at number ten.
SUPER-BANTAMWEIGHT:
Number ten Luis Rosa (22-0, 10 KOs) won an eight round unanimous decision over unrated journeyman German Meraz (52-37-1, 30 KOs) in a Featherweight bout. No changes.
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Knockout CP Freshmart won a clear decision in a rematch with former rival.
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MINIMUMWEIGHT:
Number three Knockout CP Freshmart (12-0, 6 KOs) won a decisive twelve round unanimous decision in a rematch against previous number six Carlos Buitrago (28-2-1, 16 KOs). Although the initial clash was very close; this bout left little doubt as to who had won. Buitrago slips a spot to seventh. Kosei Tanaka (6-0, 3 KOs) moves up from seventh to six.
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Nice work if it's yours or whoevers, but why is Andre Ward listed as light heavyweight champion? He has never fought anyone in that division. I guess if you have Alvarez there as a middleweight you've got to be consistent:-\ There HAS to be a certain point where these alphabet gangs are going to strip these guys and just declare a vacant title bout between the best guys who actually fight there.
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Nice work if it's yours or whoevers, but why is Andre Ward listed as light heavyweight champion? He has never fought anyone in that division. I guess if you have Alvarez there as a middleweight you've got to be consistent:-\ There HAS to be a certain point where these alphabet gangs are going to strip these guys and just declare a vacant title bout between the best guys who actually fight there.
Hi thanks for the interest, I get asked this question regularly.
Under my Ratings Policy any time a Champion weighs in under his Championship weight and fights in a twelve round bout then the Championship will be on the line.
Here are a few examples of dual-championship fights from history:
World Lightweight and World Junior Welterweight Titles- World Lightweight Champion Tony Canzoneri/World Junior Welterweight Champion Jackie "Kid" Berg- Limit- 135; Canzoneri weighed in at 132; Berg at 134 1/4; Winner- Canzoneri KO-3
World Lightweight and World Junior welterweight Titles- Champion Tony Canzoneri/Challenger Jackie "Kid" Berg- Limit- 135; (weights not available); Winner- Canzoneri UD 15
World Lightweight and World Junior Welterweight Titles- Champion Tony Canzoneri/Challenger Kid Chocolate- Limit- *135; (weights not available); Winner- Canzoneri SD 15 (*- Note: Had Canzoneri made the 130-pound limit, which he didn't, he would have been awarded Kid Chocolate's World Junior Lightweight title. That would have made Canzoneri, a former World Featherweight champion, boxing's first four-divisional champion.)
World Lightweight and World Junior Welterweight Titles- Champion Tony Canzoneri/Challenger Barney Ross- Limit- 135; Canzoneri weighed in at 133 1/2; Ross at 134 3/4; Winner- Ross MD 10
World Lightweight and World Junior Welterweight Titles- Champion Barney Ross/Challenger Tony Canzoneri- Limit- 135; Ross weighed in at 135; Canzoneri at 133 1/2; Winner- Ross SD 15
World Lightweight and World Welterweight Titles- Champion Henry Armstrong/Challenger Lew Feldman- Limit- 135; Armstrong weighed in at 135; Feldman at 134; Winner- Armstrong KO-1
An interesting fact, Armstrong should have lost the lightweight and welterweight championships to Lou Ambers in August 1939, both weighed in under 135. The officiating was horrible but we have to respect the official decision even if we don't agree with it.
You can add in Leonard/ LaLonde, the Mayweather/ Maidana fights and now Mayweather/ Pacquiao.
My policy is pretty clear; if a champion fights under his championship weight in a twelve round bout then the title is on the line. When you start picking and choosing and muddying the waters it becomes no better than the alphabet boys. Or you get situations like Judah or Peterson holding belts they should have lost.
He won his Championship in the ring under the required weight limit (according to the commission rules a contest with fighters weighing between 161 lbs – 175 lbs has a maximum weight difference allowance of 12 pounds), both Dawson and Ward weighted in at 168. The Rodriguez and Smith fights also qualified as defences.
It's not very common these days for a number of reasons. For example you have to have two champions from different divisions willing to face each other, with the higher weight holder willing to weigh under the lighter division limit. Normally a fighter wants every advantage possible so dual weight championship fights are rare.
These examples were to show that even though Dawson was not at his championship weight his title was on the line.
Also the Light-heavy linage is pretty messy but you could make a case that it leads back to Ward.
Michalczewski-Gonzalez-Erdei-Grachev-Rodriguez-Ward.
I consider Ward the rightful Light-Heavyweight Champion.
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Still think it is wholly wrong to have Ward as light heavyweight champion. I do not believe even he would claim the title.
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Still think it is wholly wrong to have Ward as light heavyweight champion. I do not believe even he would claim the title.
History disagrees with you.
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#9 Bantamweight Pungluang Sor Singyu was victorious by way of a technical decision.
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BANTAMWEIGHT:
Number nine Pungluang Sor Singyu (52-3, 35 KOs) won a seven round technical decision over unrated Jetro Pabustan (26-3-6, 7 KOs). The ref stopped the fight due to a cut above Pabustan’s left eye that was caused by an accidental head clash. No changes.
FLYWEIGHT:
Number seven Edgar Sosa (52-9, 30 KOs) won a sixth round unanimous decision over unrated journeyman Orlando Garcia (17-23, 14 KOs) in an over-the-weight contest. No changes.
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Also the Light-heavy linage is pretty messy but you could make a case that it leads back to Ward.
Michalczewski-Gonzalez-Erdei-Grachev-Rodriguez-Ward.
I consider Ward the rightful Light-Heavyweight Champion.
That's not accurate. The linage was broken when Zsolt Erdei vacated to move up to Cruiserweight.
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Also the Light-heavy linage is pretty messy but you could make a case that it leads back to Ward.
Michalczewski-Gonzalez-Erdei-Grachev-Rodriguez-Ward.
I consider Ward the rightful Light-Heavyweight Champion.
That's not accurate. The linage was broken when Zsolt Erdei vacated to move up to Cruiserweight.
I did say it's messy and you could make a case. Erdei never lost (until Grachev) and did return to 175.
My Light-Heavyweight lineage begins from Dawson vs Pascal
Championship Lineage
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No where on the poster does it say for the light heavyweight title. I guess it is like Briggs holding the title after he beat Foreman and Lennox took it from him.
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Felix Sturm won a controversial decision.
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SUPER-MIDDLEWEIGHT:
Number seven Felix Sturm (40-5-3, 18 KOs) won a very questionable twelve round majority decision over number five Fedor Chudinov (14-1, 10 KOs). Both fighters hold their rankings. This was a rematch to their 2015 clash, in which Chudinov won a twelve round split decision. No changes.
SUPER-BANTAMWEIGHT:
Number seven Shingo Wake (20-4-2, 12 KOs) scored a fifth round knockout over unrated Waldo Sabu (7-3, 2 KOs). No changes.
BANTAMWEIGHT:
Number nine Pungluang Sor Singyu (52-3, 35 KOs) won a seven round technical decision over unrated Jetro Pabustan (26-3-6, 7 KOs). The ref stopped the fight due to a cut above Pabustan’s left eye that was caused by an accidental head clash. No changes.
SUPER-FLYWEIGHT:
Number five Omar Narvaez (45-2-2, 24 KOs) scored a seventh round stoppage over unrated Bantamweight Jesus Vargas (14-4-1, 10 KOs). No changes.
LIGHT-FLYWEIGHT:
Number six Pedro Guevara (27-2-1, 17 KOs) won a dominant ten round unanimous decision over unrated Jether Oliva (23-5-2, 11 KOs)in a Flyweight bout. Number nine Francisco Rodriguez Jr. (18-4-1, 11 KOs) scored three knockdowns en route to a lopsided ten round unanimous decision over unranked veteran Ramon Garcia Hirales (20-8-1, 12 KOs). No changes.
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Carl Frampton held off a late surge to out point his rival.
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CRUISERWEIGHT:
Number two Marco Huck (39-3-1, 27 KOs) scored a tenth round stoppage over previous number nine Ola Afolabi (22-5-4, 11 KOs). Afolabi’s left eye was swollen shut by round seven. Back in his corner at the conclusion of the tenth round Afolabi advised the ref that he was no longer able to see out of his left eye and the bout was waived off. Afolabi exits. Thabiso Mchunu (16-2, 10 KOs) moves up from tenth to ninth. Tony Bellew (26-2-1, 16 KOs) comes aboard at number ten.
SUPER-LIGHTWEIGHT:
Number five Terence Crawford (28-0, 20 KOs) stopped fringe contender Hank Lundy (26-6-1, 13 KOs) in five rounds. No changes.
FEATHERWEIGHT:
Number four Leo Santa Cruz (32-0-1, 18 KOs) scored a fifth round stoppage over previous number five Super-Bantamweight Kiko Martinez (35-7, 26 KOs) in an entertaining scarp. No changes.
SUPER-BANTAMWEIGHT:
Number one Carl Frampton (22-0, 14 KOs) won a twelve round split decision over number two Scott Quigg (31-1-2, 23 KOs). Frampton won the early rounds with Quigg starting slow but coming on later in the fight. Both guys hold their rankings. Previous number five Kiko Martinez (35-7, 26 KOs) exits after being stopped in five rounds by number four Featherweight Leo Santa Cruz (32-0-1, 18 KOs) at that weight. Hugo Ruiz (36-3, 32 KOs) advances from ninth to fifth after avenging his defeat to previous number six Julio Ceja (30-2, 27 KOs) with a first round stoppage in an immediate rematch. Ruiz landed a big right hand that dropped Ceja awkwardly injuring his right leg. Ceja got to his feet but it was clear the injury had left him unable to defend himself against Ruiz’ follow up assault. Ceja remains at six. Luis Rosa (22-0, 10 KOs) moves up from tenth to ninth. Tyson Cave (28-3, 11 KOs) enters at tenth.
LIGHT-FLYWEIGHT:
Jesse Espinas (13-2, 9 KOs) crashes the ratings at number seven after scoring an upset victory over previous number two Paipharob Kokietgym (32-1, 25 KOs). Espinas stopped Kokietgym in eight rounds. Kokietgym tumbles to tenth. Everyone rated three through seven previously moves up a place each. Last week’s number ten Rey Loreto (21-13, 13 KOs) is pushed out of the ratings.
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Nice to see you have Rigo as the top man in the division.
