Re: Ward/Kovalev 2...who wins?
Woah, actually look at that slow replay. It was a low blow!
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Because Kovalev wasn't defending himself. He was bent over with his hands down. He had no choice if the fighter can't defend himself
You give him an 8 count first. Ward was losing the fight and they stopped it as soon as they could. You give him a chance first.
Did this fight have the standing 8 option? If it did I agree. But if not the ref had no choice but stop it.
Either way he was done.
I don't know about that. The round was over and a minute makes a big difference. Big Ward round, but he was down several points IMO.
From my eye, as I said before the round I thought Kovalev was gassed already. Add all those body shots and the huge right that clearly hurt him badly and I didn't see him getting stronger.
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Gandalf
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Ron Swanson
Because Kovalev wasn't defending himself. He was bent over with his hands down. He had no choice if the fighter can't defend himself
You give him an 8 count first. Ward was losing the fight and they stopped it as soon as they could. You give him a chance first.
Did this fight have the standing 8 option? If it did I agree. But if not the ref had no choice but stop it.
Either way he was done.
you could claim he was held up by the ropes, i think kovalev fucked himself there he was hurting from body shots and was trying to get the ref in to claim low blows(he might have a case) but kovalev stayed standing so how do you give him a count there ? :S
I think the fight defienently could have gone on.
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Ron Swanson
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Gandalf
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Ron Swanson
Because Kovalev wasn't defending himself. He was bent over with his hands down. He had no choice if the fighter can't defend himself
You give him an 8 count first. Ward was losing the fight and they stopped it as soon as they could. You give him a chance first.
Did this fight have the standing 8 option? If it did I agree. But if not the ref had no choice but stop it.
Either way he was done.
I have to see it again, it almost looked like he was near through ropes. Technical kd least maybe
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See, that was BS. No count, stopped the fight on low blows, nice one. Then you look at the judges and 2 of them are obviously blind. Nonsense.
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Kovalev is FOS "he didn't hurt him" he was clearly badly hurt by the right.
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Kovalev is FOS "he didn't hurt him" he was clearly badly hurt by the right.
It doesn't matter. Even at the end Ward was landing low blows and still no intervention from the ref having already been ignored on a low blow earlier in the round. It's a fix! ;D
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Because Kovalev wasn't defending himself. He was bent over with his hands down. He had no choice if the fighter can't defend himself
You give him an 8 count first. Ward was losing the fight and they stopped it as soon as they could. You give him a chance first.
Did this fight have the standing 8 option? If it did I agree. But if not the ref had no choice but stop it.
Either way he was done.
you could claim he was held up by the ropes, i think kovalev fucked himself there he was hurting from body shots and was trying to get the ref in to claim low blows(he might have a case) but kovalev stayed standing so how do you give him a count there ? :S
I think the fight defienently could have gone on.
I agree, and I agree they could have ruled the ropes held him up thus giving him a count. But if there is no standing 8 the refs options are limited. That's actually why I hate that so many fights don't have a standing 8 anymore
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Surprsie! Kovalev claims prem stoppage, low blows and demands rematch.
Not sure why anyone is defending the ref, luckily he's not British. Again, body shots? What? A supposed P4P-er stopped on his feet by body shots. Weird
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Max, Ward didn't stop anyone and it wasn't incredible. Bwahaha! HBO is hilarious. ;D
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Ward with heavyweight talk belongs up there with Mayweather - mcGreagor enthusiasm :vd:
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People are getting a little out of hand because of the hate for ward.
I agree that ward landed some punches a bit below the belt but most were on the belt. The stoppage was bad but Kovalev was about done. And I'm saying this as a big Kovalev fan. He wasn't coming back. He was gassed.
Ward is #1 p4p easily now
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Oh, HBO you are horrible. Respect to Lederman for keeping it real though. He always shows them up.
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Ward with heavyweight talk belongs up there with Mayweather - mcGreagor enthusiasm :vd:
I heard him say maybe cruiserweight, did he say heavyweight too? 😂
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I think there's no doubt who the best P4P fighter is in the world today.
Never expected that.
Shame that Sergey couldn't just admit the loss...there will be no trilogy.