Re: Prime Tyson-Prime Ali
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
Ali UD, one tough bloke, very well conditioned... Even a prime Tyson faded down the stretch.
VERY good chin and he has delt with similar styles well before.
That is just taking into account Ali's physical attributes
When Holyfeild beat Tyson, Tyson may not have been in his prime or boxed much really, but Ali is a level above Holdfeild in terms of ring craft and a boxing brain, I'd see this going much the same way.
Plus like others are saying, Tyson would be EASY for Ali to wind up pre fight... Tyson would beat himself trying to kill Ali whilst Ali danced and picked Tyson off.
I really like Tyson's style in his prime, he was a force but we can't get too carried away with him, put it this way... on a certain night he might be able to beat Ali... but 9 times out of 10 Ali UDs him.
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Re: Prime Tyson-Prime Ali
Back at you, btw... can you confirm something for me? ;) You used to be called 'PRIDE OF THE PROVIDENCE' didn't you? ;)
I'm like 99% certain you're the same guy... but one time I'm sure I saw both user names online at the same time... ;)
Maybe I need to either quiet boxing or shape my defence up a bit... :P
Re: Prime Tyson-Prime Ali
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
Back at you, btw... can you confirm something for me? ;) You used to be called 'PRIDE OF THE PROVIDENCE' didn't you? ;)
I'm like 99% certain you're the same guy... but one time I'm sure I saw both user names online at the same time... ;)
Maybe I need to either quiet boxing or shape my defence up a bit... :P
I am going to go out on a limb and say one day it will be Pride of New England.
Re: Prime Tyson-Prime Ali
there never was a prime ali.......however ali would dance around jab tysons face all nightwin by a ud. a prime holmes vs ali would b a much better match up
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You know, I hate this arguement. The Tysonetts always think Tyson will beat just about anybody.
Ali by Knockout! hahaha
Surprised! ;D
I'm joking, but now that I think about it.......
hmmmm......
Ali did knockout each of his Knockout Masters Sonny and George.
He just overwhelmed them and landed at will. Sooner or later,
they just went down or out, either from humiliation or exhaustion.
Both Liston and Foreman had more will than Tyson.
And Ali's punches were not like chickenfeathers either! heheh
(People don't know that, good example is his right that landed on Ron Lyle's face.)
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Ok, seriously, the only people that ask these questions are the ones that have never seen either fighter fight. This is boxing and it IS the sweet science. You can have some raw talented slugger come in and beat down the Marvin Fraziers and Sammy Scaffs and Mitch Greens of the world, but when it comes to the people that actually study the art and fight smart, neither Tyson, nor Foreman, nor Liston, nor any person with TNT in their gloves and murder in their brains is going to beat a Muhammad Ali, a Willie Pep, or a Sugar Ray Robinson... this is what distinguishes boxing from UFC... they aren't going out there and wailing away like a couple of drunk frat boys... there IS a science to this and the scientists will ALWAYS win in the end
Re: Prime Tyson-Prime Ali
Ali was never KO'd & Tyson never lost a fight on points, so it's the opposite ends of the spectrum.
Ali would have had Tyson's head messed up BEFORE the fight.
Boxing is mostly mental.
Tyson would not have have the mental capacity to cope with fighting Ali.
Ali by late TKO.
Re: Prime Tyson-Prime Ali
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Originally Posted by Syntax Error
Ali was never KO'd & Tyson never lost a fight on points, so it's the opposite ends of the spectrum.
Ali would have had Tyson's head messed up BEFORE the fight.
Boxing is mostly mental.
Tyson would not have have the mental capacity to cope with fighting Ali.
Ali by late TKO.
:coolclick: If you were hinting to Ali's mind games, Tyson would have exploded before the press conference! haha, The fight would be in the bag for Ali. Most possilby a knockout too.
Re: Prime Tyson-Prime Ali
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
Back at you, btw... can you confirm something for me? ;) You used to be called 'PRIDE OF THE PROVIDENCE' didn't you? ;)
I'm like 99% certain you're the same guy... but one time I'm sure I saw both user names online at the same time... ;)
just saw your pos wondering if I was the same as po Providence and yes... Thats me. I just changed cuz I moved to Boston :)... I'm one and the same
Maybe I need to either quiet boxing or shape my defence up a bit... :P
Re: Prime Tyson-Prime Ali
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Originally Posted by Gyrokai
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Originally Posted by Syntax Error
Ali was never KO'd & Tyson never lost a fight on points, so it's the opposite ends of the spectrum.
Ali would have had Tyson's head messed up BEFORE the fight.
Boxing is mostly mental.
Tyson would not have have the mental capacity to cope with fighting Ali.
Ali by late TKO.
:coolclick: If you were hinting to Ali's mind games, Tyson would have exploded before the press conference! haha, The fight would be in the bag for Ali. Most possilby a knockout too.
LOL!!!
Got to agree with you!!!!
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If we're talking about a Prime Tyson.
Then it's only using evidence before the Bruno fight.
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I can never understand why Tyson always gets pitched in mythical battles against Ali. ???
Ali was the master of mind games & Tyson was one of the most mentally weak fighters who is highly regarded.
Physically he could match Ali, but mentally he would have folded like a newspaper when Ali didn't go down from his punches, started hitting him back & telling him how ugly he was. O0
Why don't people pitch Evander Holyfield, who was mentally strong & exceptionally skilled against an Ali. That would be more of contest IMO.
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Tyson was an animal in his prime, But Ali was no joke in his. Ali would totally outbox Mike, But Mike would probably catch him in the middle rounds for a stoppage.