Re: Does Kosta Tszyu's record stand up against the greats?
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Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
Honestly...I aint that big on Kostya.
He's a good fighter...but in the grand scheme of things...he's just a minnow that barely makes a splash in a much bigger pond.
Cotto, IWO, is a much superior fighter with a hell of a lot better record.
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always kinda felt like cotto could beat kostya :dontknow:
Thats the thing, it was always this guy or that guy could beat Tszyu, they got in the ring, and didn't just get beat, they got completly destroyed. No one had a better right cross. Even the greats meet their match sooner or later. Tszyu destroyed Judah and Mitchell at the height of their powers when Tszyu was in his 30's, he taken on all comers and completly obliterated them like they were bums. It didn't matter because he'd always land that right cross.
Re: Does Kosta Tszyu's record stand up against the greats?
see thats thing with kostya. as his career went on he relied to much on that righthand
Re: Does Kosta Tszyu's record stand up against the greats?
kostya beat sharmba in how many rounds, 2 or 3 wasnt it?
mayweather fought an even worse sharmba and took 5,
cotto got wobbled by de marcus corley lol, who hit mayweather a fair bit to be honest. cotto jus aint gnna take kostyas punches
Re: Does Kosta Tszyu's record stand up against the greats?
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Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
see thats thing with kostya. as his career went on he relied to much on that righthand
It let him down once in 10 years.
Re: Does Kosta Tszyu's record stand up against the greats?
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Originally Posted by oakleyno1
kostya beat sharmba in how many rounds, 2 or 3 wasnt it?
mayweather fought an even worse sharmba and took 5,
cotto got wobbled by de marcus corley lol, who hit mayweather a fair bit to be honest. cotto jus aint gnna take kostyas punches
you might be right.
Re: Does Kosta Tszyu's record stand up against the greats?
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
Honestly...I aint that big on Kostya.
He's a good fighter...but in the grand scheme of things...he's just a minnow that barely makes a splash in a much bigger pond.
Cotto, IWO, is a much superior fighter with a hell of a lot better record.
Please, deliberate. ^-^
3rd person analysis is fine ;)
Re: Does Kosta Tszyu's record stand up against the greats?
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Originally Posted by Jimboogie
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
Honestly...I aint that big on Kostya.
He's a good fighter...but in the grand scheme of things...he's just a minnow that barely makes a splash in a much bigger pond.
Cotto, IWO, is a much superior fighter with a hell of a lot better record.
Please, deliberate. ^-^
3rd person analysis is fine ;)
You reckon Wacko bumped his head or something? I hope he's ok. ;D
Re: Does Kosta Tszyu's record stand up against the greats?
KT dominated the division and beat most of the best fighters whilst he was there,I don't think you can ask any more than that of a fighter. One must wonder why Oscar did not go to 140??
Re: Does Kosta Tszyu's record stand up against the greats?
kostya destroyed vernon forrest in the amatuers,vernon forrest went on to beat shane mosely twice in the pro's,kostya was a brilliant fighter as a amatuer.
lol@wacko. kostya would only need 2 or 3 rounds to get rid of cotto.
Re: Does Kosta Tszyu's record stand up against the greats?
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Originally Posted by Greig
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Sharmba Mitchell
Diobelys Hurtado
I reckon all three of those guys are better fighters than Zab Judah. The Chavez fight doesn't even get a mention IMO - he was too old.
Rodriguez, Pineda, Ruelas - all world class fighters.
For 10 yrs he pretty much beat everybody out there at 140.
Don't forget Tszyu's win over James Leija ! James Leija is often over looked, I always thought Leija was a great fighter to watch, very pleasing to the eye as he moved about the ring. excellent form ! His wars with Azumah Nelson were legandary !
Tszyu was a fantastic 140 lbs fighter... the best Jr. Welterweight ever in my opinion. a fantastic fighter to watch , his style is very exciting.
Re: Does Kosta Tszyu's record stand up against the greats?
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by Greig
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Sharmba Mitchell
Diobelys Hurtado
I reckon all three of those guys are better fighters than Zab Judah. The Chavez fight doesn't even get a mention IMO - he was too old.
Rodriguez, Pineda, Ruelas - all world class fighters.
For 10 yrs he pretty much beat everybody out there at 140.
Tszyu was a fantastic 140 lbs fighter... the best Jr. Welterweight ever in my opinion. a fantastic fighter to watch , his style is very exciting.
I submit that even though Kostya beat Julio Cesar Chavez, JCC was better overall.
JCC had more heart insomuch that he fought everyfriggin body on the planet at 140.
Re: Does Kosta Tszyu's record stand up against the greats?
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by Greig
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Sharmba Mitchell
Diobelys Hurtado
I reckon all three of those guys are better fighters than Zab Judah. The Chavez fight doesn't even get a mention IMO - he was too old.
Rodriguez, Pineda, Ruelas - all world class fighters.
For 10 yrs he pretty much beat everybody out there at 140.
Tszyu was a fantastic 140 lbs fighter... the best Jr. Welterweight ever in my opinion. a fantastic fighter to watch , his style is very exciting.
I submit that even though Kostya beat Julio Cesar Chavez, JCC
was better overall.
JCC had more heart insomuch that he fought everyfriggin body on the planet at 140.
JCC was a great watch .. no doubt about that. better over all ? I don't know? they both terrific fighters . if pressed I would still lean to Tszyu . Just like Kostya better overall.
Re: Does Kosta Tszyu's record stand up against the greats?
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by Greig
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Sharmba Mitchell
Diobelys Hurtado
I reckon all three of those guys are better fighters than Zab Judah. The Chavez fight doesn't even get a mention IMO - he was too old.
Rodriguez, Pineda, Ruelas - all world class fighters.
For 10 yrs he pretty much beat everybody out there at 140.
Tszyu was a fantastic 140 lbs fighter... the best Jr. Welterweight ever in my opinion. a fantastic fighter to watch , his style is very exciting.
I submit that even though Kostya beat Julio Cesar Chavez, JCC
was better overall.
JCC had more heart insomuch that he fought everyfriggin body on the planet at 140.
JCC was a great watch .. no doubt about that. better over all ? I don't know? they both terrific fighters . if pressed I would still lean to Tszyu . Just like Kostya better overall.
Kostya Tszyu only had 33 pro fights
JCC had 116
by the time they fought JCC had already been a pro for 20 years.
I have a real hard time rating someone that fights once a year higher than someone that was as successful and active as JCC. I agree that KT is up there, and HAD HE CONTINUED FIGHTING after losing to Hatton I would probably rate him higher. I'm trying to think of anyone that KT beat that had a great chin.
Re: Does Kosta Tszyu's record stand up against the greats?
tyzu has been consistent in his career for fighting good fighters, not great fighters (except JCC who was old)
Re: Does Kosta Tszyu's record stand up against the greats?
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by killersheep
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by Greig
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Sharmba Mitchell
Diobelys Hurtado
I reckon all three of those guys are better fighters than Zab Judah. The Chavez fight doesn't even get a mention IMO - he was too old.
Rodriguez, Pineda, Ruelas - all world class fighters.
For 10 yrs he pretty much beat everybody out there at 140.
Tszyu was a fantastic 140 lbs fighter... the best Jr. Welterweight ever in my opinion. a fantastic fighter to watch , his style is very exciting.
I submit that even though Kostya beat Julio Cesar Chavez, JCC
was better overall.
JCC had more heart insomuch that he fought everyfriggin body on the planet at 140.
JCC was a great watch .. no doubt about that. better over all ? I don't know? they both terrific fighters . if pressed I would still lean to Tszyu . Just like Kostya better overall.
Kostya Tszyu only had 33 pro fights
JCC had 116
by the time they fought JCC had already been a pro for 20 years.
I have a real hard time rating someone that fights once a year higher than someone that was as successful and active as JCC. I agree that KT is up there, and HAD HE CONTINUED FIGHTING after losing to Hatton I would probably rate him higher.
I'm trying to think of anyone that KT beat that had a great chin.
Ben Tackie comes to mind... a fucking great underrated fighter.. Tackie has great chin ! a great kid ! tons of heart ! and good power .. I will always will be watching Ben Tackie fight !
