Re: FRANK WARREN...."Is Hatton on the slide?"
Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Macarinelli is Warren's Cash Cow
Stop saying that
Its stupid
Re: FRANK WARREN...."Is Hatton on the slide?"
Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sovereign
Where's Haye - Maccarinelli Frank? Scared you might lose your cash cow?
Your kidding yourself if you think non boxing fans know who those 2 are, let alone either of them being a big draw cash cow for any one.
Frank does the best for his fighters, the fighters he knows are capable, he will move them up, Hatton Tszyu is a prime example
The mans a c*** but he also does understand very well his fighters strengths and weekneses.
He was worse when he had Hamed, dyou remember him grinning and agreeing with all Hameds bullshit after his fights, like the schoold bullys little right hand man
If I were a professional boxer though, it would have to be Frank as my manager, he can deliver the big fights.
At the end of the day it is the fighters themselves who decide who they fight, not Frank, they will get offered a name and its up to them to say yes or no.
If Frank makes a big fight, be sure everythings in his fighters favour, he did try to make Macaranelli Haye but hayes team didnt like something in the contract, Frank wouldnt have even written up a bogus contract just for them to say he changed it and didnt want the fight in the first place, he wouldnt want to lose face, I think there may be more to it and Hayes people know his limitations
is you real name Richard Mayo by any chance ;D?
Enzo mac could headline a fight with a decent undercard and sell 15-20K tickets IMO with calzaghe nearing his end and enzo being only 26 and a world champion e may not be a full blown cash cow, but he can bring in the £££
Re: FRANK WARREN...."Is Hatton on the slide?"
Being contracted to ITV (uk terrestrial tv channel) has helped Enzo's profile bigtime 8)
Re: FRANK WARREN...."Is Hatton on the slide?"
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smashup
Being contracted to ITV (uk terrestrial tv channel) has helped Enzo's profile bigtime 8)
have wonderd sometimes how it affects young fighters making their name on sky sports - friday night don't see the undercard untill normally 11pm + ish not easy to get known by the casual fan on sky...
Re: FRANK WARREN...."Is Hatton on the slide?"
Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Macarinelli is Warren's Cash Cow
Stop saying that
Its stupid
Why is it stupid? There must be a reason for you to say that...
If its not the case, why did warren change his mind and agree to make the fight only if Haye would sign a 3 fight deal with Warren? Warren wins both ways if haye agrees to that.
The reality is, either haye or maccarinelli are probably guna get sparked out. So if Warren has both of them under his wing, the winner can go on to bigger and better things while the loser can go on to fighting 8 rounders for a year. Either way warren has a superstar on his hands.
Now Haye isn't interested in that deal and suddenly Frank doesn't wanna know. Typical of warren.
Done the same with Hatton - Calzaghe and will do with Kahn.
Warren is brilliant at matchmaking. How else can Maccarinelli win a world title when the biggest name on his record is probably Mark Hobson????
Re: FRANK WARREN...."Is Hatton on the slide?"
Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Macarinelli is Warren's Cash Cow
Stop saying that
Its stupid
Why is it stupid? There must be a reason for you to say that...
If its not the case, why did warren change his mind and agree to make the fight only if Haye would sign a 3 fight deal with Warren? Warren wins both ways if haye agrees to that.
The reality is, either haye or maccarinelli are probably guna get sparked out. So if Warren has both of them under his wing, the winner can go on to bigger and better things while the loser can go on to fighting 8 rounders for a year. Either way warren has a superstar on his hands.
Now Haye isn't interested in that deal and suddenly Frank doesn't wanna know. Typical of warren.
Done the same with Hatton - Calzaghe and will do with Kahn.
Warren is brilliant at matchmaking. How else can Maccarinelli win a world title when the biggest name on his record is probably Mark Hobson????
CC! Very good points.
Re: FRANK WARREN...."Is Hatton on the slide?"
Quote:
Originally Posted by yoitsdan
Quote:
Originally Posted by Burning Desire
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smashup
you know what i think if hatton beats castillo all haters will say is that castillo was shot and ect and if he loses then he is overrated and ect so really you cant win
Your always going to get some detractors with Hatton, Mayweather, Calzaghe,
Margarito, Pacman, Barrera because they're so huge, and their rivals have huge followings, and Frank Warren is bitter, he should just get his cash out the bank and roll around in it, he's so successful as a promoter, it might cheer him up a bit.
???
i dont think than antonio margarito is quite up to par with the other names you mentioned, but thats just my humble opinion
Re: FRANK WARREN...."Is Hatton on the slide?"
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smashup
Some good points 8)
I honestly don't see that he did alot wrong with Hattons career to be honest :headscratch:
I think your forgetting how many people fell off (jumped would be more accurate) the Hatton bandwagon due to his snail like progress. If Frank is right and Ricky is on the slide that means that up to his prime Frank Warren delivered him ONE top class fight.
Re: FRANK WARREN...."Is Hatton on the slide?"
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Boring
If you're British and don't fight for FW you're either
a) Crap
b) Badly managed
c) Overrated
d) Ducking his fighters
e) All of the above
Exactly.
FW only likes British fighters who make him money.
Re: FRANK WARREN...."Is Hatton on the slide?"
David Haye is just waiting to get knocked out !!
The guy is the most overated Prima donna on planet Pappa Smurf.
Lets look at the evidence .
Longelanana Mock or whatever his name is ,had him all over the place and he is a limited super middle . Haye scored a highly dubious stoppage against the late replecement.
Ismael Bin Laden the Belgian another Warrenesque import bought in for the sole Purpose of making Haye Look good , Haye then spins off sopme bullplop about throwing a limited number of punches per round, i'd love to be more specific but i had long since fallen in to the lad of nod.
Carl Thompson.
Fat Italian who was 74 years old ( fact ) ,again had him jigging round the ring before Haye again got a gift from the ref with another dubious stoppage victory . Not one of the commentry team pointed out the Haye hit his opponent when he was down , blatantly .
The simple shining truth is Haye has beeen well and truly exposed long long long before world class .
Re: FRANK WARREN...."Is Hatton on the slide?"
Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smashup
Some good points 8)
I honestly don't see that he did alot wrong with Hattons career to be honest :headscratch:
I think your forgetting how many people fell off (jumped would be more accurate) the Hatton bandwagon due to his snail like progress. If Frank is right and Ricky is on the slide that means that up to his prime Frank Warren delivered him ONE top class fight.
And how many has he had since..?
Not ONE ;)
Really is a two way street this one mate ;D
Re: FRANK WARREN...."Is Hatton on the slide?"
Yes but Frank had 38 fights to get it done, three fights after he leaves he has Castillo to deal with. I dont think for a minute Frank would have done any better than Maussa (good move at the time) Collazo and Urango. He possibly COULD have done better, he just would have moved heaven and earth not to.
Given the background interferance (no prizes for guessing who Im refering to) I think Rick and FA have done pretty well, three fights, three world titles (one of which at welter) and a mega fight with Castillo looming.
Re: FRANK WARREN...."Is Hatton on the slide?"
Also who is Joe Calzaghe fighting next?
I know the line being towed is that Manfredo is popular in the states and it will raise Joes profile. Hattons doing things differently, he actually fighting in the States and winning world titles.
Which is better?
Re: FRANK WARREN...."Is Hatton on the slide?"
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smashup
Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smashup
Some good points 8)
I honestly don't see that he did alot wrong with Hattons career to be honest :headscratch:
I think your forgetting how many people fell off (jumped would be more accurate) the Hatton bandwagon due to his snail like progress. If Frank is right and Ricky is on the slide that means that up to his prime Frank Warren delivered him ONE top class fight.
And how many has he had since..?
Not ONE ;)
Really is a two way street this one mate ;D
I agree with you smash. I don't think Warren did much wrong with Hatton's career at all. He took him along nicely and gave him possibly the p4p no.1 in his own backyard when he was still quite young (26 I think).
The way to look at it is to ask where would Hatton be now if his whole career had been developed by one of the other british promoters (Hobson/hennessey)? You only need to look at Junior Witter's career (a guy of similar potential as Hatton) to see how things could have turned out. I doubt Frank would have thrown Ricky in with the champion in his division when he wasn't ready and on a few days notice, setting his career back 5 years.
Re: FRANK WARREN...."Is Hatton on the slide?"
Quote:
Originally Posted by Preme
Enzo mac could headline a fight with a decent undercard and sell 15-20K tickets IMO with calzaghe nearing his end and enzo being only 26 and a world champion e may not be a full blown cash cow, but he can bring in the £££
If he had Ricky Hatton on his undercard he might ;D
