Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Jorge Solis - not sold out only 14,793!
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well a couple of things bro:
1) oscar cockblocked pac man by making HBO part of the injunciton to not promote or show the pac man fight until the legal case is clear. so HBO could not have helped promote or even pretend the fight was even taking place for the matter so that obviously hurt the numbers
Pac, cock blocked himself by agreein to GBP deal and then back peddling.
GBP could have easily NOT accepted the money Pac returned to them. GBP was actually nice enough to accept the money back AFTER Pac had agreed to GBP. If anyone here is to be blamed it's Pac for making that choice, no one made that aggreement with GBP but himself.
Let's get that straight, that night at the dinner table it was Pac & ODLH and no one else.
dude so if lets say it was MAB, EM, Arce, or JMM u'd be saying the same thing?
oscar promised no BS or politics and he would be in the best interest of the fighters and for the sport. this clearly is not what he promised.
Yes I would. SHIT!! I've and I still blame JMM & RM for whats happened to them.
I blame Margarito for waiting around on PBF and now hes getting the shaft from Arum.
Ultimately the FIGHTERS have to be responsible for what happens in their careers.
Look at Zahir Raheem, he beats the then P4P Erik and then hes disappears into obscurity.
IMO when shit! like that happens it's the fighters fault.
And yes ODLH did promise that but the HBO move was a GBP & TOP RANK thing that IS tied into PAC.
If Pac didn't wan't any drama the HE should have NEVER met with GBP. All he needed to do was say NO, I'm not interested.
That would have been that, cause I doubt GBP would have kidnapped him and put a gun to his temple.
He (Pac) made that choice he should have thought about it before meeting with GBP.
Anytime one is about to make a choice one has to weigh the pros and cons, looks like he didn't.
i think pac met with GBP in the first place just to explore what else was out there for him(which i think a good business man should always do). there were pros and cons to it, but getting a bigger deal i'd have to say pac got the pros of of it. now GBP needs to stop crying about it a make a business move which is coisisting with top rank to set up huge fights.
and also pac is a guy who always explores what else he can do, thats why his a boxer/singer/actor/ and now going to be congressman.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Jorge Solis - not sold out only 14,793!
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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
well a couple of things bro:
1) oscar cockblocked pac man by making HBO part of the injunciton to not promote or show the pac man fight until the legal case is clear. so HBO could not have helped promote or even pretend the fight was even taking place for the matter so that obviously hurt the numbers
Pac, cock blocked himself by agreein to GBP deal and then back peddling.
GBP could have easily NOT accepted the money Pac returned to them. GBP was actually nice enough to accept the money back AFTER Pac had agreed to GBP. If anyone here is to be blamed it's Pac for making that choice, no one made that aggreement with GBP but himself.
Let's get that straight, that night at the dinner table it was Pac & ODLH and no one else.
dude so if lets say it was MAB, EM, Arce, or JMM u'd be saying the same thing?
oscar promised no BS or politics and he would be in the best interest of the fighters and for the sport. this clearly is not what he promised.
Yes I would. S***!! I've and I still blame JMM & RM for whats happened to them.
I blame Margarito for waiting around on PBF and now hes getting the shaft from Arum.
Ultimately the FIGHTERS have to be responsible for what happens in their careers.
Look at Zahir Raheem, he beats the then P4P Erik and then hes disappears into obscurity.
IMO when S***! like that happens it's the fighters fault.
And yes ODLH did promise that but the HBO move was a GBP & TOP RANK thing that IS tied into PAC.
If Pac didn't wan't any drama the HE should have NEVER met with GBP. All he needed to do was say NO, I'm not interested.
That would have been that, cause I doubt GBP would have kidnapped him and put a gun to his temple.
He (Pac) made that choice he should have thought about it before meeting with GBP.
Anytime one is about to make a choice one has to weigh the pros and cons, looks like he didn't.
no your right pac aint exactly guilt free on this one. hes obviously partially to blame as well. but when oscar waiting for him at LAX Soprano style with a brief case or whatever the situation was Oscar too has to consider ok if Pac does actually sign my papers there will be reprocussions with Arum atleast on the legal scale. Oscar is intelligent to know that.
Spot on, ODLH did know that BUT he did tell Pac he would handle all of that once the deal was done.
When Pac back peddled the deal was off and so were the promises that ODLH had said since the deal was off.
Arum attacked ODLH, lets just say Pac was caught in some friendly fire.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Jorge Solis - not sold out only 14,793!
Honest to goodnes, I am a die hard PAcquaio fan. However, agreeing to a contract with ODLH and returning the money to make the contract void is bad for his career and integrity. If ODLH is punishing the Pacman, the latter deserves it. When you lose integrity for money, you also deny yourself fair treatment.
No matter how I wish Pacman to fight JMM, I cannot really blame ODLH if he does not agree to it. However,I believe, if ODLH has a real good heart for boxers he will grant the wish of the boxing fans. I will respect ODLH whatever will be his decision because I see him as the aggrieved party.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs. Jorge Solis - not sold out only 14,793!
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
well a couple of things bro:
1) oscar cockblocked pac man by making HBO part of the injunciton to not promote or show the pac man fight until the legal case is clear. so HBO could not have helped promote or even pretend the fight was even taking place for the matter so that obviously hurt the numbers
Pac, cock blocked himself by agreein to GBP deal and then back peddling.
GBP could have easily NOT accepted the money Pac returned to them. GBP was actually nice enough to accept the money back AFTER Pac had agreed to GBP. If anyone here is to be blamed it's Pac for making that choice, no one made that aggreement with GBP but himself.
Let's get that straight, that night at the dinner table it was Pac & ODLH and no one else.
dude so if lets say it was MAB, EM, Arce, or JMM u'd be saying the same thing?
oscar promised no BS or politics and he would be in the best interest of the fighters and for the sport. this clearly is not what he promised.
Yes I would. S***!! I've and I still blame JMM & RM for whats happened to them.
I blame Margarito for waiting around on PBF and now hes getting the shaft from Arum.
Ultimately the FIGHTERS have to be responsible for what happens in their careers.
Look at Zahir Raheem, he beats the then P4P Erik and then hes disappears into obscurity.
IMO when S***! like that happens it's the fighters fault.
And yes ODLH did promise that but the HBO move was a GBP & TOP RANK thing that IS tied into PAC.
If Pac didn't wan't any drama the HE should have NEVER met with GBP. All he needed to do was say NO, I'm not interested.
That would have been that, cause I doubt GBP would have kidnapped him and put a gun to his temple.
He (Pac) made that choice he should have thought about it before meeting with GBP.
Anytime one is about to make a choice one has to weigh the pros and cons, looks like he didn't.
no your right pac aint exactly guilt free on this one. hes obviously partially to blame as well. but when oscar waiting for him at LAX Soprano style with a brief case or whatever the situation was Oscar too has to consider ok if Pac does actually sign my papers there will be reprocussions with Arum atleast on the legal scale. Oscar is intelligent to know that.
Spot on, ODLH did know that BUT he did tell Pac he would handle all of that once the deal was done.
When Pac back peddled the deal was off and so were the promises that ODLH had said since the deal was off.
Arum attacked ODLH, lets just say Pac was caught in some friendly fire.
naw your actually right on that! oscar did claim he was gonna handle all the legal BS for the arum drama and then for what ever reason pac went back to arum???? which i still dont know why????
pac's probably thinking right about now man oscars got all the big names that i wanna fight and arums got fighters i never fukkkkkin heard of before LOL
