Re: Valuev: I will bounce back!
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Originally Posted by No Contest
I just think he needs a new trainer, he has too much size not to be force in the heavies...if he worked on his conditioning more, and just let his hands fly I think he would be knocking people out. Hes not getting k.o.'d Ive seen him eat alot of punches and just keep coming. Hes never gonna match the lil guys for skill, he should just try to overpower his opponents.Very classy in defeat.
I would like to see him fight over here in the states....would be cool....Him vs Shannon Briggs....
Re: Valuev: I will bounce back!
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Originally Posted by THE Bigragu
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Originally Posted by No Contest
I just think he needs a new trainer, he has too much size not to be force in the heavies...if he worked on his conditioning more, and just let his hands fly I think he would be knocking people out. Hes not getting k.o.'d Ive seen him eat alot of punches and just keep coming. Hes never gonna match the lil guys for skill, he should just try to overpower his opponents.Very classy in defeat.
I would like to see him fight over here in the states....would be cool....Him vs Shannon Briggs....
YEAH HE NEEDS TO FIGHT MORE STATESIDE!
IT WAS GOOD MOVE HAVING HIM FIGHT IN NY, AND CHICAGO SO FAR. BRING HIS ASSSS TO VEGAS NEXT!
Re: Valuev: I will bounce back!
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
im sorry to report but after recent testing, i have confirmed that 325 pound bears do not bounce at all therefor he made an untrue statement.
....quite untrue
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Re: Valuev: I will bounce back!
Those guys are idiots...a trampoline...looks like the bear landed on his head...how about a net or cushion that isnt going to bounce the bear up in the air 10 feet to fall directly on its head. Ouch...and wtf was that bear thinking...lol.
Re: Valuev: I will bounce back!
The bear was unhurt.....they are tough animals
Re: Valuev: I will bounce back!
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Originally Posted by No Contest
I just think he needs a new trainer, he has too much size not to be force in the heavies...if he worked on his conditioning more, and just let his hands fly I think he would be knocking people out. Hes not getting k.o.'d Ive seen him eat alot of punches and just keep coming. Hes never gonna match the lil guys for skill, he should just try to overpower his opponents.Very classy in defeat.
Every fighter can have a loss. He was not his best. The man was a southpaw. It was not a very clear loss, he was always in the fight, he wasnt down or even hurt.
He was fighting a good amateur champ in his prime. AND i think that VALUEV hasnt yet found the best way to use his size. He can be more dangerous.
On the plus: many greats have gone 12 round dec. against clever fighters, and Valuev showed NO sign of being stunned etc. He needs to IMPROVE and get more aggresive, take more pleasure in FIGHTING.
Re: Valuev: I will bounce back!
X My thoughts on the matter superb. cc
Re: Valuev: I will bounce back!
I'm saying it right now Valuev WILL deminish after this loss.
Re: Valuev: I will bounce back!
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
I'm saying it right now Valuev WILL deminish after this loss.
Only if he keeps fighting decent fighters....I forsee him rebounding for a little while vs the likes of Timor Ibragimov, Ray Austin, and maybe even Tony Thompson.
But once he gets a title shot again he'll lose if it's vs anyone good
Re: Valuev: I will bounce back!
So...
With Valuev losing to Chagaev, I was hoping Ruiz would be pushed out of the top 10. Not suck luck. I wasn't thinking straight. If Briggs loses to Ibragimov it should happen.
Re: Valuev: I will bounce back!
Ruiz will more than likely be Chagaev's first title defense......you know how DKP works
Re: Valuev: I will bounce back!
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Originally Posted by X
[color=blue]"Tis true, my form is something odd
but blaming me, is blaming God,
Could I create myself anew
I would not fail in pleasing you.
If I could reach from pole to pole
or grasp the ocean with a span,
I would be measured by the soul
The mind's the standard of the Man"
High-minded sappiness, X ... cc 350
but it's a low blow, taking advantage of a recovering bleeding heart left wing liberal. Now I have to call my sponsor.
Re: Valuev: I will bounce back!
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Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Punisher136
im sorry to report but after recent testing, i have confirmed that 325 pound bears do not bounce at all therefor he made an untrue statement.
....quite untrue
[youtube=425,350]uOOJYO807AU[/youtube]
lol :coolclick:
Re: Valuev: I will bounce back!
i think the lost could be a good thing for valuev, you never know a rage inside can come destroying whats in its path.
Re: Valuev: I will bounce back!
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Originally Posted by X
I must admit I never really rated him as a fighter.
But, having said that ....... the poor guy will have spent all his life being taunted and ridiculed as a freak. He will have had to get special clothes, special furniture, special everything and he HAS maximised his potential. Whatever talent he has as a fighter, he has made the most of it and become literally the best he could ever be.
You don't hear about him beating people up, shirking training, assaulting women, talking smack or being disrespectful to his opponent. He seems to be a happily married family man? How gutted must he be about falling short of Marciano's record - which would have allowed him to shut up all those who teased him over the years?
Despite this, he remained absolutely gracious in defeat. How many fighters can say they have done that, especially after what seems to have been a contentious decision.
Good luck to the guy .... made the most of what he could be, never quit and, if we're honest, he is a credit to the sport and a thoroughly decent human being.
Seeing as he also exhibits unmistakable physical signs of an overactive thyroid gland and gigantisisn, I will leave you all with some words that could easily describe Mr Valuev .....
"Tis true, my form is something odd
but blaming me, is blaming God,
Could I create myself anew
I would not fail in pleasing you.
If I could reach from pole to pole
or grasp the ocean with a span,
I would be measured by the soul
The mind's the standard of the Man"
That was the self-penned epitaph of John Merrick, the Elephant Man. Another thoroughly decent and intelligent man who endured a lifetime of taunts.
Now don't get me wrong, I never thought he was a very good fighter, I didn't think he deserved to beat the Marciano record and I knew he would lose one day to someone who could just a box a bit better than him - but I firmly belive that boxing is one of the few sports where disadvantaged people had a chance to make something of themselves, and Valuev did not piss that chance up against a wall, like to so many much more talented fighters have done.
nice write up . :coolclick: #351
