Sorry to disagree Frozen...But IMO 400-4 is better then 70-0Quote:
Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
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Sorry to disagree Frozen...But IMO 400-4 is better then 70-0Quote:
Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
I heard Ricardo Lopez never lost amatuer or pro.
Yeh calzaghe had well over 100 amateur fights he lost one to a guy in my home town BARRY
Mike Smive the the BARRY BOMBER...he even talks about him in his Book
This was the fight were the referee was mikes dad...although Joe admits The Barry Bomber took the first 2 rounds But Joe thought he did enough in the last two to take the win
What they fail to tell you here is that Don Curry had the flu just prior to fighting Honeyghan. He couldnt train was weak and overweight. His so called manager at the time Akhbar Muhammad insisted a severely weakened Don still fight. It wasnt so much Honeyghan but the flu beat DonQuote:
Originally Posted by ICB
I always been a Donald Curry fan. And always felt he shouldn't of been fighting that night. Honeyghan was at the right place at the right time. Any decent Welterweight would of beaten Curry that night.Quote:
Originally Posted by C.J.RockWhat they fail to tell you here is that Don Curry had the flu just prior to fighting Honeyghan. He couldnt train was weak and overweight. His so called manager at the time Akhbar Muhammad insisted a severely weakened Don still fight. It wasnt so much Honeyghan but the flu beat DonQuote:
Originally Posted by ICB
According to some sources "Finito" went 49-0 as an amateur.Quote:
Originally Posted by SEANIE
I 100% AGREE. In the states, USA Boxing doesn't record ANY BOUTS. In fact, if you lose your passbook, they just send a replacement and ASK THE BOXER to fill in his current record. So, if I was 0-30 and "lost" my book, I could get a replacement and write in 30-0 and start a new career. :rolleyes: Now, for my two cents. . .Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
Mark Breland was 110-1 and many of his bouts are well documented and extremel impressive. Curry's record didn't include Olympic performances like Mark Breland. Had Breland not turned pro, who knows what his record would be. He just didn't have anything else to prove. It wasn't just that he was winning, but the where, who and how. If you dig deeper and see who he fought, I have to say Mark's Record is not as prolific, but more impressive to me. Breland was a monster. I have some of his amateur bouts online. His 110 wins include 70 RSCs, 18-0 in international competition, 6-0 in the '84 Olympics (included '80 Silver medalist Russian Serik Konakbaev and best Cuban, 1983 World Cup champion Candelario Duvergal). Per my buddy John Scully on maxboxing.com, Breland also scored stoppage victories over top Americans like All-Army champion James Mitchell, 1983 Pan-American Games welterweight champion Louis Howard, North American Champion Ron Esset, David Guttierez, and Mylon Watkins (Howard, Esset and Watkins were all National Golden Gloves Champions and Mitchell was a National ABF – formerly known as the AAU – Champion). He won the prestigious NYC Golden Gloves 5 consecutive times by amassing a 21-0 record with 19 RSCs, 14 in the first round!!
There are a lot of amateur records that are prolific, but don't include real national titles that at first glance seem unbelievable. Curry was definitely a great amateur, but I'm looking at quality versus quantity and I think Breland's record was more impressive to me.
Dick McTaggart (UK) was 634-24 and that included 3 Olympic games (Gold in '56, Bronze in '60). He only lost to eventual Gold medal winners in the two games he didn't win Gold. I'm sure you've heard of him IBC :)
Kid Thunder didnt lose as an amateur . beat that Don Curry ;D
Apparently ODLH is 223-5 with 163 KO's. If that is true that is amazing. But 400-4? Thats almost unbelievable!
Didnt Silence Mabuza that guy who lost to Rafael Marquez twice have an outstanding amatuer record?
I think you are right Tam , Silence Mabuza , had a great record , but when i confronted him about it he didnt make a sound , not a a word ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by ICB
I've got the fight where he loses to a guy called Michael Smyth as an amateur when he was about 18 not sure about the 9 losses but he definately didn't have a perfect record.
WOW, and I thought Tszyu's amateur record of 259-11 was good:p
I think Joe Calzaghe lost 2 fights as an amateur out of about 120 odd
Kostya Tszyu had too many Amateur fights in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kel
Totally agree fella I wish he turned pro much earlierQuote:
Originally Posted by ssssKostya Tszyu had too many Amateur fights in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kel