Re: Hennessy Offers Hatton 'Lions Share' To Face Witter
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
im soory fellas but i felt this before and i feel it now. Hatton is ducking junior. Junior has and probably always had the styleto beat hatton and hatton and his team know that. I dont care about all that bs about witter direspected him and thats why he wont fight. BS. And i dont wanna hear tha big name crap. How many big names were on hatton record before Tszyu gave him a chance? 0.Give the man his shot like someone gave you when u didnt deserve it. Fight him and just take your lost like a man.
I think Hatton was Kostya's madatory.
Re: Hennessy Offers Hatton 'Lions Share' To Face Witter
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Originally Posted by gudnite vienna
Well Tam the only name for him at 140 is Paulie and of course if Diaz steps up apart from that no-one else will improve his Lagacy..
Hatton statedin the build up to his fight with JLC that he would only be fighting big names now, so he only has 2 real possibilities below 140! agree?
im not couting out witter to be honest, I just think he needs that one more win and then he asserts the fact he can have a Hatton fight. I think the champions should all fight each other and sort it out and Hatton gets in there. I dont no, ill give a better choice after I see PM and GR get on. JW needs a fight now though, not a Hatton one.
Re: Hennessy Offers Hatton 'Lions Share' To Face Witter
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by gudnite vienna
Well Tam the only name for him at 140 is Paulie and of course if Diaz steps up apart from that no-one else will improve his Lagacy..
Hatton statedin the build up to his fight with JLC that he would only be fighting big names now, so he only has 2 real possibilities below 140! agree?
im not couting out witter to be honest, I just think he needs that one more win and then he asserts the fact he can have a Hatton fight. I think the champions should all fight each other and sort it out and Hatton gets in there. I dont no, ill give a better choice after I see PM and GR get on. JW needs a fight now though, not a Hatton one.
Technically hatton is the best at 140 but n all honesty who has he fought since kostya to really prove that. Maussa,urango, and castillo.Right now i dont think hatton is the best. Ithink witter beats him and most likely stops him. All im saying is if floyd gets heat for not fighting the "best" welters then ricky should get it for not fighting the best juniorwelters. Realistically beside DLH who would be the most challenging opponent for hatton. Witter and PM. But i bet he would pick PM before witter.Why? cause he knows even though PM is a good boxer he is short in the power department. He knows he'll b able to rough him up like cotto did. But he knows witter is a totally different monster. Witter has earned his chance but he probably wont get it.
Re: Hennessy Offers Hatton 'Lions Share' To Face Witter
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
Honestly, Hatton has a bit of a dilemma on his hands. He's too small to fight with any of the other elite welterweights and with his "Ricky Fatton" lifestyle he WON'T be able to make 140 in top condition that much longer and he'll start becoming weight drained more often. If I were him, I'd take the money with a huge ODLH fight in the UK in which whether he wins or loses, he'll still be considered the top guy at 140. And then break the bank again with Junior Witter who would probably have one more belt by then. Ricky's drinking and eating WILL catch up to him, it's just a question of when. I read somewhere that his team was going to have him fight five times in 2008, that's probably the smartest idea they've had for Ricky yet because fighting five times will allow him to stay in somewhat decent shape all year instead of blowing up a lot and then having to lose a ton of weight.
are you telling me he was weight drained for the Castillo fight? He was in the best shape at 140 ever and he dealed the goods. Anybody gets in with Hatton at 140 they will get beat. trust me. Its not the end of the world him losing to floyd, it just asserts the fact he is pound 4 pound number 1. He will be back and doing well at 140
If you believe that Ricky's bloating during fights will not shortly start affecting his conditioning then you're crazy. I'm not saying that he's gonna turn to shit overnight but overeating and overdrinking takes years of your athletic life. Ricky's getting to the age (30+) where he's not technically "young" anymore and his body will start punishing him more and more during training camps for his lifestyle. His determination during training camps coupled with his youth allows him to be in tip-top shape in spite of his lifestyle, but his body can't keep doing it over and over. That is fact. Ricky Hatton is not superhuman.
Re: Hennessy Offers Hatton 'Lions Share' To Face Witter
Look, for Hatton its all about the money. He isnt scared of witter in the slightest and he would beat him. I think he would stop him as well.
Hatton has even said for himself, he just wants to fight for money now. Witter is a nobody to be honest, i agree with you hes underated but he just doesnt have the name to bring in a lot of money. If witter had a better name and more belts and proved that hes doing something other than cry Hatton wont fight him he will probs get his shot. He needs to beat PM,GR or RT
Torres has a belt and Witter needs this to appeal to Hatton. Torres has no scheleduled bouts and I feel these two should fight. It would give Witter a bit more of a name and two of the belts in the devision.
You speak like witter has done a great deal, but to be honest he hasnt. Urango is better than a shot Harris and morua. Castillo has a very big name in the states and a very good appeal instead of Witter. Its about money and legacy for Hatton, mark my words hes not scared of Witter. Castilo was involved in some very exciting match ups. Witters are all boring... SEE THE DIFFERENCE? Castillo did something in his career, at this momment Witter hasnt. Witter needs to get to America and fight a big name and get himself i name. Therefore has the better chance of Hatton.
do you get what im getting with this?
in a nutshell, Witter needs more an american name to get a Hatton match up. do you honeslty think they would get anywhere near as many PPV views as Hatton-Mayweather? GOD NO ! So can you see that he isnt scared of him!
Re: Hennessy Offers Hatton 'Lions Share' To Face Witter
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
Honestly, Hatton has a bit of a dilemma on his hands. He's too small to fight with any of the other elite welterweights and with his "Ricky Fatton" lifestyle he WON'T be able to make 140 in top condition that much longer and he'll start becoming weight drained more often. If I were him, I'd take the money with a huge ODLH fight in the UK in which whether he wins or loses, he'll still be considered the top guy at 140. And then break the bank again with Junior Witter who would probably have one more belt by then. Ricky's drinking and eating WILL catch up to him, it's just a question of when. I read somewhere that his team was going to have him fight five times in 2008, that's probably the smartest idea they've had for Ricky yet because fighting five times will allow him to stay in somewhat decent shape all year instead of blowing up a lot and then having to lose a ton of weight.
are you telling me he was weight drained for the Castillo fight? He was in the best shape at 140 ever and he dealed the goods. Anybody gets in with Hatton at 140 they will get beat. trust me. Its not the end of the world him losing to floyd, it just asserts the fact he is pound 4 pound number 1. He will be back and doing well at 140
If you believe that Ricky's bloating during fights will not shortly start affecting his conditioning then you're crazy. I'm not saying that he's gonna turn to S*** overnight but overeating and overdrinking takes years of your athletic life. Ricky's getting to the age (30+) where he's not technically "young" anymore and his body will start punishing him more and more during training camps for his lifestyle. His determination during training camps coupled with his youth allows him to be in tip-top shape in spite of his lifestyle, but his body can't keep doing it over and over. That is fact. Ricky Hatton is not superhuman.
well it got him through 43 fights. I admit he could be in better shape, but its up to him is it, not me ...
Re: Hennessy Offers Hatton 'Lions Share' To Face Witter
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by gudnite vienna
Well Tam the only name for him at 140 is Paulie and of course if Diaz steps up apart from that no-one else will improve his Lagacy..
Hatton statedin the build up to his fight with JLC that he would only be fighting big names now, so he only has 2 real possibilities below 140! agree?
im not couting out witter to be honest, I just think he needs that one more win and then he asserts the fact he can have a Hatton fight. I think the champions should all fight each other and sort it out and Hatton gets in there. I dont no, ill give a better choice after I see PM and GR get on. JW needs a fight now though, not a Hatton one.
Technically hatton is the best at 140 but n all honesty who has he fought since kostya to really prove that. Maussa,urango, and castillo.Right now i dont think hatton is the best. Ithink witter beats him and most likely stops him.
All im saying is if floyd gets heat for not fighting the "best" welters then ricky should get it for not fighting the best juniorwelters. Realistically beside DLH who would be the most challenging opponent for hatton. Witter and PM. But i bet he would pick PM before witter.Why? cause he knows even though PM is a good boxer he is short in the power department. He knows he'll b able to rough him up like cotto did. But he knows witter is a totally different monster. Witter has earned his chance but he probably wont get it.
I don't think Ricky Hatton has ever claimed to be the best fighter in boxing history.
Re: Hennessy Offers Hatton 'Lions Share' To Face Witter
i think its a shame that People like Cotto and Mayweather arnt at 140 now because it would be a massive advantage to Hatton. Its plain to see that Ricky cant handle 147 simple az. There just are not any really superstar names at 140 now for him to fight..
Re: Hennessy Offers Hatton 'Lions Share' To Face Witter
Before I would of picked Hatton over Witter with no problem. But something tells me Mayweather might of ruined Hatton mentally. I would now favor Witter in a fight between them
Re: Hennessy Offers Hatton 'Lions Share' To Face Witter
i totally agree, i think hatton could be done mentally
Re: Hennessy Offers Hatton 'Lions Share' To Face Witter
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
"It’s never been about the money with Junior and we could make this fight in a flash,” Hennessy told PA Sport. “All Junior wants is the opportunity to prove that he is the best light(junior)-welterweight in the world. If Ricky can continue to bring the same level of profile and support, we won’t be greedy and we would be happy for him to take the lion’s share of the purse."
http://secondsout.com/uk/lukl.cfm?ccs=471&cs=23500
Lets see it happen.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm call me cynical, but HATTONS the biggest draw in boxing, witter couldnt draw flys to shit. of course HATTONS gonna get the lions share something vivian harris didnt seem to comprehend when he was WBA champ. lets be honest Hatton has the best fans in the world and fighting witter is a no no. as ive said before let the four title holders at 140 unify the title trhe winner to face HATTON in say september.(HATTON is the real champ)
Re: Hennessy Offers Hatton 'Lions Share' To Face Witter
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Originally Posted by SEANIE
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
"It’s never been about the money with Junior and we could make this fight in a flash,” Hennessy told PA Sport. “All Junior wants is the opportunity to prove that he is the best light(junior)-welterweight in the world. If Ricky can continue to bring the same level of profile and support, we won’t be greedy and we would be happy for him to take the lion’s share of the purse."
http://secondsout.com/uk/lukl.cfm?ccs=471&cs=23500
Lets see it happen.
A better idea seing as hatton wants 5 more fights before he retires.would be for Hatton to fight the belt holders and unify the way it should be done..Rather than waiting because he lost to Mayweather wich all of a sudden makes him the biggest draw in boxing.
Witter deserves a shot at Hatton IMO. And Ricky's got no excuse to decline.
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm call me cynical, but HATTONS the biggest draw in boxing, witter couldnt draw flys to S***. of course HATTONS gonna get the lions share something vivian harris didnt seem to comprehend when he was WBA champ. lets be honest Hatton has the best fans in the world and fighting witter is a no no. as ive said before let the four title holders at 140 unify the title trhe winner to face HATTON in say september.(HATTON is the real champ)
Re: Hennessy Offers Hatton 'Lions Share' To Face Witter
I'm sorry man but Hatton is ducking Witter, plain and simple. You can defend him by asking, "Why would he be afraid of Witter when he just took on the best at a higher weight class?", but think about this, losing to floyd doesn't take away from his luster back home whereas losing to Witter in his own weight class in his own country would make him the #2 140 fighter in his own country. And he knows there's a very realistic chance of him losing to Witter. I think for his sake, he should fight Paulie first for confidence sake, and if he wins fight Witter to give himself the best opportunity.
Re: Hennessy Offers Hatton 'Lions Share' To Face Witter
First of all, RESPECT to the UK! This year the UK fighters made alot of heads turn! Calzaghe looked unbeatable, Hatton showed heart, Witter looked hungry, Amir Khan looks like the future is all his, Clinton Woods stood tall and Enzo Maccarinelli was just a total BEAST! I became a Enzo Maccarinelli fan this year!
As for Witter vs Hatton! Everyone in the UK, just like us outside the UK knows that Hatton has been duckin Witter for quite some time now! The best UK boxers in the same weight class has made it a tradition to fight each other for country supremecy! Benn, Eubanks, Collins, and Watson all got it on! Lewis and Bruno danced, Danny Williams and Audrey Harrison did a sequel! So why Hatton doesn't wanna carry on tradition? Witter knocks out Hatton by the way! Maybe Hatton and his camp smell it also! Hatton's sucess as a brawler in the Boxing game ended with a hook to Castillo's body!
Skills pay the bills! Cotto had to BOX to beat Mosely! Hatton has to learn to BOX!
Re: Hennessy Offers Hatton 'Lions Share' To Face Witter
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Originally Posted by MRMANICK
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by gudnite vienna
Well Tam the only name for him at 140 is Paulie and of course if Diaz steps up apart from that no-one else will improve his Lagacy..
Hatton statedin the build up to his fight with JLC that he would only be fighting big names now, so he only has 2 real possibilities below 140! agree?
im not couting out witter to be honest, I just think he needs that one more win and then he asserts the fact he can have a Hatton fight. I think the champions should all fight each other and sort it out and Hatton gets in there. I dont no, ill give a better choice after I see PM and GR get on. JW needs a fight now though, not a Hatton one.
Technically hatton is the best at 140 but n all honesty who has he fought since kostya to really prove that. Maussa,urango, and castillo.Right now i dont think hatton is the best. Ithink witter beats him and most likely stops him. All im saying is if floyd gets heat for not fighting the "best" welters then ricky should get it for not fighting the best juniorwelters. Realistically beside DLH who would be the most challenging opponent for hatton. Witter and PM. But i bet he would pick PM before witter.Why? cause he knows even though PM is a good boxer he is short in the power department. He knows he'll b able to rough him up like cotto did. But he knows witter is a totally different monster. Witter has earned his chance but he probably wont get it.
A big fan of Witter then? You've kept it quiet a long time on here.