Peter is Over-Rated

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Well you just wait for someone to come beat Wladimir....and I'll enjoy my fighter's time at the top of the division.

He fights to his strength...everyone knows his weaknesses and yet not a lot of people can beat him

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I rate Wlad the #1 in the division but it's not saying much!

There was nothing enjoyable about Wlads last fight!

This is boxing remember where anything can happen!

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

I rate Wlad the #1 in the division but it's not saying much!

There was nothing enjoyable about Wlads last fight!

This is boxing remember where anything can happen!

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....So his last fight wasn't fun to watch....it's not 100% Wlad's fault....50%-75% I agree but the guy won in the way the other fighter gave him the opportunity to win.

If taking wild risks always won people fights then Oliver McCall on a crack binge would be the heavyweight champ!

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Originally Posted by Lyle

....So his last fight wasn't fun to watch....it's not 100% Wlad's fault....50%-75% I agree but the guy won in the way the other fighter gave him the opportunity to win.

If taking wild risks always won people fights then Oliver McCall on a crack binge would be the heavyweight champ!

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A wins a win I guess. But I'd rather watch a fighter like R. Marquez lose than watch Wlad win in that fashion

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

A wins a win I guess. But I'd rather watch a fighter like R. Marquez lose than watch Wlad win in that fashion

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Well then go watch Marquez lose then....who's stopping you?

You have to acknowledge that he knocked Klitschko down 3 times. So obviously Klitschko isn't untouchable. I don't think Peter wins a rematch but you're off if you think that Peter has no shot. He knocked him down 3 times.

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Originally Posted by amat

You have to acknowledge that he knocked Klitschko down 3 times. So obviously Klitschko isn't untouchable. I don't think Peter wins a rematch but you're off if you think that Peter has no shot. He knocked him down 3 times.

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I've seen Wladimir improve more so than Sam Peter and that is why I say Sam has less of a shot to beat him in a rematch. Sure Sam Peter has some kind of chance but it's not a big one....Peter barely won the rounds that he had Wladimir down.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Well then go watch Marquez lose then....who's stopping you?

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As a matter of fact I'm rewatching Vasquez/ Marquez 3 right now, what a fight!!!. Wlad should take some lessons from these guys as how to be a real fighter!!!

Since this post is not supposed to be about Wlad I'll just make one comment on him...Nobody likes to watch a champion fight scared and after a few more stinkers like his last fight Wlad will be thought of as the best of a terrible divison, nothing more...

In the case of Peter , yes he is overrated and gives hope to Ruiz, Tua (wherever he is), Holyfield and any other fighter currently in mothballs...The division is in a horrible state...

Such a boring fighter, like a bigger slower Ponce de Leon, like Nascar/Professional bowling/WNBA/Dog shows boring.

Seriously is there a competition going on for who can be the most boring heavyweight, just dreadful

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Originally Posted by The Promoter

Since this post is not supposed to be about Wlad I'll just make one comment on him...Nobody likes to watch a champion fight scared and after a few more stinkers like his last fight Wlad will be thought of as the best of a terrible divison, nothing more...

In the case of Peter , yes he is overrated and gives hope to Ruiz, Tua (wherever he is), Holyfield and any other fighter currently in mothballs...The division is in a horrible state...

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....he's only been the distance 6 times and one of those fights was with Sam Peter which was an OK fight.


Give it a fucking rest on the Ibragimov fight, Jesus I have never known people to bitch so fucking much about one fight.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

....he's only been the distance 6 times and one of those fights was with Sam Peter which was an OK fight.


Give it a fucking rest on the Ibragimov fight, Jesus I have never known people to bitch so fucking much about one fight.

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It's not only about the Ibragimov fight, just one look at Wlads resume and you can easily define his place in history so far. Against a very limited Peter Wlad was knocked down 3 times!?!?! If you look at his resume the only real champion he fought was Chris Byrd. The competition has been no fault of Wlads, its just what's out there...But against what Wlad has faced he should look a lot better considering his physical gifts. He is just getting by what 15 years ago where "B" level fighters. Honestly how do you think Wlad would do against a prime LL or Riddick Bowe based upon what he has shown so far?

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Originally Posted by Lyle

First off Wladimir has gone the distance with 6 fighters........6. The way posters like you talk about him it seems like he's the heavyweight Willie Pep and that is unfair.

Wlad was not afraid to throw vs Peter he landed numerous HUGE shots on Sam's forehead and I think a rematch would mean more of the same.....disagree if you will but I think Wlad rocking Sam Peter from 1-12 means the rematch will be shorter...had Wlad had a little more time in the final round there would have been a KO in that fight.

Wlad had very few punches land on him in his last fight too, mainly because he's fighting tall and blocking better


Wlad didn't throw the right cross vs Sultan Ibragimov because he was a southpaw who had very fast hands and threw shorter sharper punches....yeah that was a lack luster fight but when you have fought 53 times you're bound to have A lack luster fight.....how was Sam Peter vs Jameel McCline then? Maybe we should only judge him on that.....OR maybe we should only judge him on the fact he wasn't able to really KO Oleg Maskaev......OLEG MASKAEV!!!!

Sam Peter hurt Maskaev but couldn't KO him or even put him on the canvas!!! Oleg Maskaev an OLDER FATTER Oleg Maskaev who got demolished by the likes of Lance Whittaker, Corey 'T-Rex' Sanders, and Kirk Johnson!!!! Sam Peter's performance was less spectacular than Wladimir's fight vs Sultan.

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He was cautious against Peter, he did land some good shots but for most of the fight he was cautious. And plus lets not forget Wladimir hugged onto Peter like an octopus, see for yourself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0sFZWczB9c

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Originally Posted by Galaxy

As a matter of fact I'm rewatching Vasquez/ Marquez 3 right now, what a fight!!!. Wlad should take some lessons from these guys as how to be a real fighter!!!

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you don't get it man, wlady had one bad showing due to a southpaw infront of him and as smart as wlady is all he had to do was do what he did that night to easily win a u.d. fighters like rafa and isreal had to complicate the way they win because their machoness get in the way. Im not complaining though, i love isrea and rafa im just saying wlady is a different fighter. he doesn't let his pride make an easy fight to a difficult one.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Well you just wait for someone to come beat Wladimir....and I'll enjoy my fighter's time at the top of the division.

He fights to his strength...everyone knows his weaknesses and yet not a lot of people can beat him

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David Haye will and I'm convinced of that!!!

Sam's a poor technical boxer, very poor in fact. He is physically very strong and has decent power, but it would be an inclination of how low the division has actually got if he were to become the undisputed champ, as opposed to an inclination of how good he is.