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Well I wasn't trying to be an a##. You gotta look at it this way: If you put a jaguar in front of an elephant that was mad, he would take off like a shot. Put a pit bull or 16 pound patterdale in front of one and they are stupid enough to try and grab it. That's fearless. A jaguar hunts prey that will barely fight. Unfortunately a pit bull has been bred to love combat. There is a big difference. I still wouldn't f#ck with a jaguar though;DQuote:
Originally Posted by amat
I've been to cock pits in the philippines and yes rosters are savages. IMO its about 95% of the time that it will fight to the death. A rare event a poorly condition roster tries to find a way out but most of the time it will fight to the death. How they do it is if even both rosters are nearly dead, one must show it still wants to fight. So they pick the rosters up and get them face to face and whoever roster bites wins. If both birds still bites they drop them right next to eachother even though both can no longer walk. they will just keep continuing to peck at eachother til one dies or can no longer move.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
they actually attack razor sharp talents made of blade. Fight usually last less than 30seconds. The longest fight i've seen i think only lasted 3minutes and thats when both rosters had to show it wanted more by biting when the trainiers pick them back up.
a while back, i saw a video of a jaguar walking directly into a path of a tiger. Unknown to the jaguar and tiger they were about to be face to face. at the moment the tiger saw the jaguar it killed it in ten seconds, it must of not wanted it to compete for preys around. the jaguar didnt seem to run though, maybe it was fearless against the tiger or was just suprise.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGIONWell I wasn't trying to be an a##. You gotta look at it this way: If you put a jaguar in front of an elephant that was mad, he would take off like a shot. Put a pit bull or 16 pound patterdale in front of one and they are stupid enough to try and grab it. That's fearless. A jaguar hunts prey that will barely fight. Unfortunately a pit bull has been bred to love combat. There is a big difference. I still wouldn't f#ck with a jaguar though;DQuote:
Originally Posted by amat
No telling why it didn't run, but wouldn't have made a difference anyways. Cats will alot of times stare down each other to see what happens. Jaguars can get to 400 pound, but the average is about 250. A tiger can get to like 6 or 700 pounds. So the tiger knows he can kill it. If the sizes were reversed, it would have been the opposite. A rooster, pit bull, they don't bluff, they go right to work. They're too brave for their own good. I would love to know why a jaguar and tiger were even together, as they are from different parts of the world. Unless it was a leopard, as tigers and leopards live in India. Leopards are even smaller.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Raina while back, i saw a video of a jaguar walking directly into a path of a tiger. Unknown to the jaguar and tiger they were about to be face to face. at the moment the tiger saw the jaguar it killed it in ten seconds, it must of not wanted it to compete for preys around. the jaguar didnt seem to run though, maybe it was fearless against the tiger or was just suprise.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGIONWell I wasn't trying to be an a##. You gotta look at it this way: If you put a jaguar in front of an elephant that was mad, he would take off like a shot. Put a pit bull or 16 pound patterdale in front of one and they are stupid enough to try and grab it. That's fearless. A jaguar hunts prey that will barely fight. Unfortunately a pit bull has been bred to love combat. There is a big difference. I still wouldn't f#ck with a jaguar though;DQuote:
Originally Posted by amat
I saw a couple of cock fights. Not my thing, but when you said 95% of the time, I remembered a guy I knew who loved that cock fighting and he said it was like 95% or higher they will die in there. That is pretty fearless!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainI've been to cock pits in the philippines and yes rosters are savages. IMO its about 95% of the time that it will fight to the death. A rare event a poorly condition roster tries to find a way out but most of the time it will fight to the death. How they do it is if even both rosters are nearly dead, one must show it still wants to fight. So they pick the rosters up and get them face to face and whoever roster bites wins. If both birds still bites they drop them right next to eachother even though both can no longer walk. they will just keep continuing to peck at eachother til one dies or can no longer move.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
they actually attack razor sharp talents made of blade. Fight usually last less than 30seconds. The longest fight i've seen i think only lasted 3minutes and thats when both rosters had to show it wanted more by biting when the trainiers pick them back up.
Another animal that will fight to the death at times is the dove. Funny it is a symbol of peace, but is fierce when fighting. Not sure why; though it is something I heard and not sure if it's true.
A guy that used to work for my dad{ he was a hillbilly mofo}, told me he always fought his roosters. Pretty silly to me, though I've witnessed it a couple of times. Anyways, he brought a maple box to the jobsite one day and showed me all these long knives he would hook to his birds, lol. That is some sick sh#t. Heads must be flying off with those. I'd hate to get one loosed on me with daggers on his feet, lol:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainI've been to cock pits in the philippines and yes rosters are savages. IMO its about 95% of the time that it will fight to the death. A rare event a poorly condition roster tries to find a way out but most of the time it will fight to the death. How they do it is if even both rosters are nearly dead, one must show it still wants to fight. So they pick the rosters up and get them face to face and whoever roster bites wins. If both birds still bites they drop them right next to eachother even though both can no longer walk. they will just keep continuing to peck at eachother til one dies or can no longer move.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
they actually attack razor sharp talents made of blade. Fight usually last less than 30seconds. The longest fight i've seen i think only lasted 3minutes and thats when both rosters had to show it wanted more by biting when the trainiers pick them back up.
yea i really think 95% fight to the death but personally a 100% have died in a cock pit where I've been in. Afterwards the deal is the loser roster is taken by the owner of the roster that won. It will be dinner for the owners family, they do not waste the chicken at all. The roster that won if it isn't hurt that bad will be conditioned again and fought once it has fully recover. If it can no recover it will likely be meal as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGIONI saw a couple of cock fights. Not my thing, but when you said 95% of the time, I remembered a guy I knew who loved that cock fighting and he said it was like 95% or higher they will die in there. That is pretty fearless!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainI've been to cock pits in the philippines and yes rosters are savages. IMO its about 95% of the time that it will fight to the death. A rare event a poorly condition roster tries to find a way out but most of the time it will fight to the death. How they do it is if even both rosters are nearly dead, one must show it still wants to fight. So they pick the rosters up and get them face to face and whoever roster bites wins. If both birds still bites they drop them right next to eachother even though both can no longer walk. they will just keep continuing to peck at eachother til one dies or can no longer move.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
they actually attack razor sharp talents made of blade. Fight usually last less than 30seconds. The longest fight i've seen i think only lasted 3minutes and thats when both rosters had to show it wanted more by biting when the trainiers pick them back up.
Another animal that will fight to the death at times is the dove. Funny it is a symbol of peace, but is fierce when fighting. Not sure why; though it is something I heard and not sure if it's true.
BTW they give supplements to rosters and sometimes while many rosters are tied next to eachother, they let a female lose to get them all excited. Once I took a little day chicken and face it towards a roster as if I was going to battle it. the roster strike me and the little chicken ;D luckily it was tied up and didn't reach us. i also did it with puppies and even adult dogs the roster would always get piss and strike.
Rosters are a lot like raptors they jump to strike you with their talents.
I don't think the dove info is correct, I know of another animal that is born to fight. the Betta, or fighting fish. I bred them a lot before but Betta's are not like roster. I'll say only about 40% actually will fight to the death. I've known guys in chinatown that would bet up to 10,000 dollars on fighting fish. Its an underground sport mainly in chinatown, but roster fights are hardly anywhere here in america.
yea those daggers are real sharp man, I've seen guys struggle trying to tie it precisely on the roster. to avoid the roster chopping its own legs off or the guy wrapping the dagger on. During sparring though they actually put on replacement boxing roster gloves to cover the existing talent. They still take off feathers though.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGIONA guy that used to work for my dad{ he was a hillbilly mofo}, told me he always fought his roosters. Pretty silly to me, though I've witnessed it a couple of times. Anyways, he brought a maple box to the jobsite one day and showed me all these long knives he would hook to his birds, lol. That is some sick sh#t. Heads must be flying off with those. I'd hate to get one loosed on me with daggers on his feet, lol:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius RainI've been to cock pits in the philippines and yes rosters are savages. IMO its about 95% of the time that it will fight to the death. A rare event a poorly condition roster tries to find a way out but most of the time it will fight to the death. How they do it is if even both rosters are nearly dead, one must show it still wants to fight. So they pick the rosters up and get them face to face and whoever roster bites wins. If both birds still bites they drop them right next to eachother even though both can no longer walk. they will just keep continuing to peck at eachother til one dies or can no longer move.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
they actually attack razor sharp talents made of blade. Fight usually last less than 30seconds. The longest fight i've seen i think only lasted 3minutes and thats when both rosters had to show it wanted more by biting when the trainiers pick them back up.
Man the worst i've seen those daggers do was kill another roster in 4 seconds. the first strike instantly killed the other roster and the winner was still insisting on striking it while it was motionless. They usually both jump from the beginning and right when they both did the other one was stab right at the chest. it landed on its face as the other landed on its feet. crazy stuff man.
i think it was in a forest in thialand or somewhere near india. I've heard of tigers growing up to 900lbs actually. I think the siberian tiger.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGIONNo telling why it didn't run, but wouldn't have made a difference anyways. Cats will alot of times stare down each other to see what happens. Jaguars can get to 400 pound, but the average is about 250. A tiger can get to like 6 or 700 pounds. So the tiger knows he can kill it. If the sizes were reversed, it would have been the opposite. A rooster, pit bull, they don't bluff, they go right to work. They're too brave for their own good. I would love to know why a jaguar and tiger were even together, as they are from different parts of the world. Unless it was a leopard, as tigers and leopards live in India. Leopards are even smaller.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Raina while back, i saw a video of a jaguar walking directly into a path of a tiger. Unknown to the jaguar and tiger they were about to be face to face. at the moment the tiger saw the jaguar it killed it in ten seconds, it must of not wanted it to compete for preys around. the jaguar didnt seem to run though, maybe it was fearless against the tiger or was just suprise.Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
I wish cock fighting was still legal, fun for the whole family. And before someone gives me shit about it, those roosters are taken better care of than 99.9% of chickens out there. Yes they do meet a savage ending, about like all chickens.
your fuxking brilliant man, thats exactly how i look at it. I've actually seen how well these roster are conditioned. Hell man trainiers would actually spoon feed their rosters. They get up each mourning at the exact time to feed them and take them out of the heat of the mourning sun. They have all kinds of medicine and supplements. They actually hand feed them the supplement or medicine.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
Roster fighting is far different then pit-bull fighting, most pit-bulls are treated horribly. rosters are condition and cared for. All chickens are killed and eaten by us anyway. Even roster that engage in fights, they too are just another chicken meal but fighting roster actually get taken cared of far better then just another chicken. The only bad part I see about it is gambling really.
I owe you lots of rep boozeman!