Re: Hopkins VS. Pavlik: Why?
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southakron314
But a Calzaghe - Pavlik fight is a great PPV fight that I would love to see.
True but when has Joe Calzaghe been interested in fighting the best possible competition???
Re: Hopkins VS. Pavlik: Why?
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Lyle
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Originally Posted by
southakron314
But a Calzaghe - Pavlik fight is a great PPV fight that I would love to see.
True but when has Joe Calzaghe been interested in fighting the best possible competition???
say what you want... but how about this... when hasn't calzaghe built a fight up to have the entire boxing world ready to cut off their left nut to see it happen?
if pavlik beats hopkins the fight will happen and it will be one of the biggest fights in the last 10 years without question...
Look at Joe vs kessler... to non american contenent fighters who had any half decent american fight fan talking about it non stop... fight could of gone ahead right after lacy, would of been ok, but after Joe won it would of been billed as another win agasint another over hyped EU fighter... Joe may say some silly things and contredicted him self in interviews, but he makes his fights as anticipated more than oscar;)
Re: Hopkins VS. Pavlik: Why?
Oh, and when has anyone actuly seen pavlik say he wants Joe?
all i seen is after the 2nd taylor fight he said he was going to stay at middle to make a "few" defences...
Re: Hopkins VS. Pavlik: Why?
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Originally Posted by
southakron314
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Originally Posted by
CutMeMick
I said it loooong ago a Hopkins fight IS not the path to take if you want to look good and appeal to the masses.
Why?
Cause Ol' Saint-Bernard aint gonna let Pavlik look good. Ol' Saint-Bernard never makes anyone look good even when they beat him.
Even if Pavlik wins, I don't see how it will help him boost this superstar title his management wants him to reach.
There is always a punchers chance. but this puncher is also a sound boxer with better stamina than Calzaghe and a good solid chin. What would you think if he knocked him out inside of 8.
better stamina than Calzaghe? what makes u think that?
yes his chin is solid but he's been down badly and hurt at middleweight by Taylor who was coming in after 3 below par performances.
Re: Hopkins VS. Pavlik: Why?
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Phil
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Originally Posted by
southakron314
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Originally Posted by
CutMeMick
I said it loooong ago a Hopkins fight IS not the path to take if you want to look good and appeal to the masses.
Why?
Cause Ol' Saint-Bernard aint gonna let Pavlik look good. Ol' Saint-Bernard never makes anyone look good even when they beat him.
Even if Pavlik wins, I don't see how it will help him boost this superstar title his management wants him to reach.
There is always a punchers chance. but this puncher is also a sound boxer with better stamina than Calzaghe and a good solid chin. What would you think if he knocked him out inside of 8.
better stamina than Calzaghe? what makes u think that?
yes his chin is solid but he's been down badly and hurt at middleweight by Taylor who was coming in after 3 below par performances.
Pavlik can do just as much damage late in a fight but a bigger man in Calzaghe cant even leave a scratch in the fender. Watch the Taylor 2 fight he was throwing hard punches . Calzaghe maybe soo weak that he looks winded. You think he would hit harder than a 85 pound Koeran gymnast.
Re: Hopkins VS. Pavlik: Why?
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Originally Posted by
Lyle
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Originally Posted by
southakron314
But a Calzaghe - Pavlik fight is a great PPV fight that I would love to see.
True but when has Joe Calzaghe been interested in fighting the best possible competition???
Since 2005.
Re: Hopkins VS. Pavlik: Why?
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southakron314
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Phil
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southakron314
There is always a punchers chance. but this puncher is also a sound boxer with better stamina than Calzaghe and a good solid chin. What would you think if he knocked him out inside of 8.
better stamina than Calzaghe? what makes u think that?
yes his chin is solid but he's been down badly and hurt at middleweight by Taylor who was coming in after 3 below par performances.
Pavlik can do just as much damage late in a fight but a bigger man in Calzaghe cant even leave a scratch in the fender. Watch the Taylor 2 fight he was throwing hard punches . Calzaghe maybe soo weak that he looks winded. You think he would hit harder than a 85 pound Koeran gymnast.
Name two fighters that went 12rds with Calzaghe and didnt have a mark on there face.
The only fight he didnt look great in was the Hopkins fight a career worst didplay and that was because he has to lead against a come foward fighter its different. They always end up busted up.
Re: Hopkins VS. Pavlik: Why?
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Originally Posted by
southakron314
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Originally Posted by
Phil
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Originally Posted by
southakron314
There is always a punchers chance. but this puncher is also a sound boxer with better stamina than Calzaghe and a good solid chin. What would you think if he knocked him out inside of 8.
better stamina than Calzaghe? what makes u think that?
yes his chin is solid but he's been down badly and hurt at middleweight by Taylor who was coming in after 3 below par performances.
Pavlik can do just as much damage late in a fight but a bigger man in Calzaghe cant even leave a scratch in the fender. Watch the Taylor 2 fight he was throwing hard punches . Calzaghe maybe soo weak that he looks winded. You think he would hit harder than a 85 pound Koeran gymnast.
watch the Lacy and Kessler fights, Calzaghe had loads left in the tank, I don't think u can knock his stamina and at 36 thats quite impressive considering how busy a fighter he is
Re: Hopkins VS. Pavlik: Why?
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Drago
I still cant understand Pavlik fighting hopkins, it just dont make sense i am hoping it will after the fight but at the moments:confused::confused::confused::confused::co nfused:
nope didnt make sense
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Drago
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Drago
I still cant understand Pavlik fighting hopkins, it just dont make sense i am hoping it will after the fight but at the moments:confused::confused::confused::confused::co nfused:
nope didnt make sense
I thought the fight made sense.
Hopkins was the greatest middleweight of the last 20 years and Pavlik is the new universally recognised middleweight champ. Both American why wouldn't Kelly want a chance to fight a legend?
As for Bernard, he reigned as middleweight champ for a decade and got the chance to take on the new reigning middleweight champ, the old warhorse against the young lion.
The fight always made great sense to me, a dangerous fight for both men and full credit to them both for taking it.
Re: Hopkins VS. Pavlik: Why?
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Originally Posted by
CutMeMick
I said it loooong ago a Hopkins fight IS not the path to take if you want to look good and appeal to the masses.
Why?
Cause Ol' Saint-Bernard aint gonna let Pavlik look good. Ol' Saint-Bernard never makes anyone look good even when they beat him.
Even if Pavlik wins, I don't see how it will help him boost this superstar title his management wants him to reach.
I was looking for this post the other night...
I felt it was a stupid move by his management, really stupid move. IMO.