Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
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Kel
I wanted a video of Warrens reaction.
Something like this probably
£££££££:(
haha good one:D
Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
It's not totally beyond him to be honest. Now the dust has settled i'm sure he has the ability to beat him....just depends how smart he fights.
He gets a hard time on here and i'm not totally sure why. I don't think he behaves any differently from most fighters
My gripe with him was the fact it was on ppv and he should realise he's not at that level yet. But fair is fair, respect to him if he gets back in the ring with Prescott after what he did to him.
Wonder what the reaction would be to somebody like Pac wanting to get straight back in with somebody who brutally ko'd him....
something along the lines of....
'he's such a warrior blah de blah'
Never understood how people hate him yet they can tolerate guys like Witter and Malignaggi.
Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
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ono
It's not totally beyond him to be honest. Now the dust has settled i'm sure he has the ability to beat him....just depends how smart he fights.
He gets a hard time on here and i'm not totally sure why. I don't think he behaves any differently from most fighters
My gripe with him was the fact it was on ppv and he should realise he's not at that level yet. But fair is fair, respect to him if he gets back in the ring with Prescott after what he did to him.
Wonder what the reaction would be to somebody like Pac wanting to get straight back in with somebody who brutally ko'd him....
something along the lines of....
'he's such a warrior blah de blah'
Never understood how people hate him yet they can tolerate guys like Witter and Malignaggi.
He took his loss like a man and he believes in himself. Had that been me, I would have been depressed for months on end ;D and I might have even retired, he looks and sounds kool as a cucumber, this will be a very useful learning experience for him. Hopefully from all of this, we see a new Khan emerge. I don't think he will come out running from his corner from round one like he did the other night. He is going to have to learn to be more patient and he is going to have to learn how to either move when hurt, hug, spit out his mouth piece or take that knee. You don't get buckled the way he got buckled and try to trade with your opponent. Has to be a very hard lesson to learn but I think he will get it right this time and I think he got the point.
However, I did notice that it was a shot to the body that opened Khan up and left him a little vulnerable upstairs. Either Khan is also soft downstairs, or Prescott really does hit that damn hard. I don't know which is to be the truth? Maybe a little bit of both?
Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
I don't see any way back for Con. Con is huge for his weight. He's a big ass Lightweight. There's no way he can stay at that weight much longer. He's going to have to move up. And that's not a good thing for him. His chin can't take punches from 130 and 135 ponders. At a higher weight he's in serious danger
Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
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Originally Posted by
ono
It's not totally beyond him to be honest. Now the dust has settled i'm sure he has the ability to beat him....just depends how smart he fights.
He gets a hard time on here and i'm not totally sure why. I don't think he behaves any differently from most fighters
My gripe with him was the fact it was on ppv and he should realise he's not at that level yet. But fair is fair, respect to him if he gets back in the ring with Prescott after what he did to him.
Wonder what the reaction would be to somebody like Pac wanting to get straight back in with somebody who brutally ko'd him....
something along the lines of....
'he's such a warrior blah de blah'
Never understood how people hate him yet they can tolerate guys like Witter and Malignaggi.
I agree with this. I don't know that much about Khan, but I've never seen him say anything terribly outlandish that would justify the vitriol directed at him.
Maybe it's more a reflection about the way people feel towards Warren?
Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
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Violent Demise
I don't see any way back for Con. Con is huge for his weight. He's a big ass Lightweight. There's no way he can stay at that weight much longer. He's going to have to move up. And that's not a good thing for him. His chin can't take punches from 130 and 135 ponders. At a higher weight he's in serious danger
I think the struggle to make 135 is taking away whatever punch resistance he has. Moving up to 140 might give him slightly more (than currently zero) ability to take a punch but he'd be getting hit harder -- there's a reason he's at 135, he tried 140 and didn't like it. Either way he's fucked, let's face it.
Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
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CFH
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ono
It's not totally beyond him to be honest. Now the dust has settled i'm sure he has the ability to beat him....just depends how smart he fights.
He gets a hard time on here and i'm not totally sure why. I don't think he behaves any differently from most fighters
My gripe with him was the fact it was on ppv and he should realise he's not at that level yet. But fair is fair, respect to him if he gets back in the ring with Prescott after what he did to him.
Wonder what the reaction would be to somebody like Pac wanting to get straight back in with somebody who brutally ko'd him....
something along the lines of....
'he's such a warrior blah de blah'
Never understood how people hate him yet they can tolerate guys like Witter and Malignaggi.
I agree with this. I don't know that much about Khan, but I've never seen him say anything terribly outlandish that would justify the vitriol directed at him.
Maybe it's more a reflection about the way people feel towards Warren?
Yeah I think it's partly Warren but mainly a reaction to all the press coverage he has had. He was hailed a hero before he even turned pro and the public don't like to fed a load of hype.
It's a shame as despite what the haters say about him he IS talented, he IS incredibly exciting to watch and he IS a decent role model for young kids, a natural in front of the camera, well spoken and respectful, but confident of his ability.
He speaks no more highly of himself than does Calzaghe, Hatton, Froch, Witter etc, the only difference is that he gets more media attention over here than all of them and has achieved less than any of them so the public don't like to hear it.
Maybe this will mean a more low key comeback and a slower rate of progression which will be good for Khan.
I disagree with a lot of people about how carefully he has been managed though.
Guys like Limmond, Lawton, Gomez, Earl have all been at the top of the domestic level and St Claire had won a lightweight title belt and gone the distance with Diego Coralles.
Julio Caesar Chavez hasn't fought anyone of the calibre of even Earl, St Claire or Gomez yet and he doesn't get anything like the stick Khan gets.
He's still only 21 and has time on his side.
I still believe he'll win world titles, he just needs to make sure he picks the right 'champion' to fight.
Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
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Violent Demise
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Bilbo
Well as Khan said he did lose to a great fighter and undoubtedly the biggest puncher in the whole lightweight division, if not the whole of boxing.
It's nice that he wants to face Prescott again but in all seriousness this fight was like putting Warren's golden egg laying hen into the same enclosure as a starving, rabid fox. In retrospect it was a foolish mistake to believe that a chicken could beat a fox in the first place, but if they were to put the poor chicken back in with the fox again its time to call the RSPCA imo.
I have no idea what I'm talking about.........
No he did not. Prescott is far from great. His resume is filled with nothing but bums. All he did by beating Con was add another bum to his record
Spot on 100%. hehehe..
Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
domestic level and sparked out in under a minute...
and still hes talking world titles :rolleyes:
it was sad to see him getting sparked like that but not supprising, as i think he was good for the sport in creating new fans.
but the hype machine is over and maybe it will be just what he needs to help him progress and put him where he belongs while learning.... ON THE UNDERCARD.
because lets face it hes had alot of pressure for a young kid starting his pro career thus far ;)
Good luck Khan 8)
Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
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Kel
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DID YOU HEAR HIM SAY, WHEN i GET OUT OF THE FIRST ROUND;D
Ha ha, thats a big ask
Yeah lol, also that Prescott is the hardest hitting lightweight in the world, anyone agree with that?
hell ye my list of all time 135 lb punchers goes something like this
1) Breidis Presscott
2) Willie Limond
3) Michael Gomez
4) rachid drillzane
Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
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Danny_G
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ono
It's not totally beyond him to be honest. Now the dust has settled i'm sure he has the ability to beat him....just depends how smart he fights.
He gets a hard time on here and i'm not totally sure why. I don't think he behaves any differently from most fighters
My gripe with him was the fact it was on ppv and he should realise he's not at that level yet. But fair is fair, respect to him if he gets back in the ring with Prescott after what he did to him.
Wonder what the reaction would be to somebody like Pac wanting to get straight back in with somebody who brutally ko'd him....
something along the lines of....
'he's such a warrior blah de blah'
Never understood how people hate him yet they can tolerate guys like Witter and Malignaggi.
He took his loss like a man and he believes in himself. Had that been me, I would have been depressed for months on end ;D and I might have even retired, he looks and sounds kool as a cucumber, this will be a very useful learning experience for him. Hopefully from all of this, we see a new Khan emerge. I don't think he will come out running from his corner from round one like he did the other night. He is going to have to learn to be more patient and he is going to have to learn how to either move when hurt, hug, spit out his mouth piece or take that knee. You don't get buckled the way he got buckled and try to trade with your opponent. Has to be a very hard lesson to learn but I think he will get it right this time and I think he got the point.
However, I did notice that it was a shot to the body that opened Khan up and left him a little vulnerable upstairs. Either Khan is also soft downstairs, or Prescott really does hit that damn hard. I don't know which is to be the truth? Maybe a little bit of both?
To be honest i thought he's always looked a little bit vulnerable.
As for Saturday, he just didn't look right. The interview when he was getting hands wrapped before the fight - he looked and sounded like absolute shit. Like he had cold or something. He just didn't come across how he normally does. He didn't even look remotely confident.
He needs a great defensive coach to be honest. I still think he can be a world champion. Hell if Alex Arthur is good enough and Nicky Cook is good enough, so is Khan. Just depends on which champion he ends up fighting.
Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
The reason people are glad he lost is that he is one big hype machine designed only to make as much money as possible. Sure he has talent, but even his own promoter hasn't truly believed the hype for some time or the opposition would have been upped a long time ago.
The days when amateur boxing actually resembled the proffessional game are long gone. Degale will do well to take in what's happened to Amir, he says he won't look at a contract for less than a million, if a promoter pays that much he'll expect the fighter to be headlining shows while learning the game. They should be fighting often at the start of their careers to gain real EXPERIENCE.
From the interviews sounds like Khan has learned jack shit, still believes he's 12 months from a world title shot.
Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
Thing is Prescott could be the biggest hitting Lightweight we don't know do we? We will know abit more when he fights world class which now he probably will.Khan was number 5 with WBC and number 2 WBO behind Guzman and rated number 8 in Ring magazine so if Prescott takes his place after saturday he will be WBO number 1 contender vs either Guzman or Campbell.
Re: Khan his dad and Hatton talk about defeat Khan "I will beat Prescott in rematch"
Agree the fact that he might not be headlining any more might take pressure off him and that can only be good for him - and he may just accept that thats where he should have been from the start !
Did you see the knockdowns on the video clip though - what the hell happened in the one where he gets downed as an amateur !??!
However if he is to win a world title I think his only chance is to hope that by the time his shot comes Warwick Davis is the reigning champion