Did Margarito peak?

Once again, If Paul Williams wasn't being turned down by the big names at WW then he would fight at the weight no question, but people are willing to fight him, he isn't a big enough name, and he is a huge risk. The Santos fight was close, but Santos was ahead, he hurt Margarito to the body, he was winning the fight, and the Paul Williams vs Margarito fight wasn't that close. Margarito rallied late, but it was far too little too late. He won 3 or 4 rounds, but that IMO is being beaten rather easily that is a third or a quarter of the rounds he won.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

Once again, If Paul Williams wasn't being turned down by the big names at WW then he would fight at the weight no question, but people are willing to fight him, he isn't a big enough name, and he is a huge risk. The Santos fight was close, but Santos was ahead, he hurt Margarito to the body, he was winning the fight, and the Paul Williams vs Margarito fight wasn't that close. Margarito rallied late, but it was far too little too late. He won 3 or 4 rounds, but that IMO is being beaten rather easily that is a third or a quarter of the rounds he won.

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Keep your opinion I will keep mine but tell ya what...Until he is dethroned at WW he is the Man at WW...Best boxer no I never said anything at any time ever about Tony being the best boxer....The best fighter now that is a different story...No one is knocking Tony out,,,No one is stopping him and anyone from 140-154 that tries to slug with him Including Williams,,,,Gets knocked the Phuk out!!!

Bump, looking to hear on some others opinions on the original subject

I really do not think he peaked.
And think he will have a great 2009.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

Once again, If Paul Williams wasn't being turned down by the big names at WW then he would fight at the weight no question, but people are willing to fight him, he isn't a big enough name, and he is a huge risk. The Santos fight was close, but Santos was ahead, he hurt Margarito to the body, he was winning the fight, and the Paul Williams vs Margarito fight wasn't that close. Margarito rallied late, but it was far too little too late. He won 3 or 4 rounds, but that IMO is being beaten rather easily that is a third or a quarter of the rounds he won.

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Keep your opinion I will keep mine but tell ya what...Until he is dethroned at WW he is the Man at WW...Best boxer no I never said anything at any time ever about Tony being the best boxer....The best fighter now that is a different story...No one is knocking Tony out,,,No one is stopping him and anyone from 140-154 that tries to slug with him Including Williams,,,,Gets knocked the Phuk out!!!

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Why do you ahve to slug it out to beat someone? Mayweather would make easy work of Tony by staying outside Tony's effective range(which is with you on the ropes and him right on you). He doesn't have the throne at WW, he beat Cotto who is a great fighter, but thats one guy in the deepest division in boxing, you have to do more than that to be the best in the division because even Cotto was the ring WW champion. Right now Margarito is the best contender in the WW division when Paul is fighting north of it and Mayweather remains retired.

I think Tony is at his peak now.

I think a fight with Paul Williams is pretty even at this point...I also agree that Pavlik would open a can of whup ass on Paul...

Tony takes alot of shots during fights so I could see him as start to slow a bit after this year.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by Taeth

Once again, If Paul Williams wasn't being turned down by the big names at WW then he would fight at the weight no question, but people are willing to fight him, he isn't a big enough name, and he is a huge risk. The Santos fight was close, but Santos was ahead, he hurt Margarito to the body, he was winning the fight, and the Paul Williams vs Margarito fight wasn't that close. Margarito rallied late, but it was far too little too late. He won 3 or 4 rounds, but that IMO is being beaten rather easily that is a third or a quarter of the rounds he won.

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Keep your opinion I will keep mine but tell ya what...Until he is dethroned at WW he is the Man at WW...Best boxer no I never said anything at any time ever about Tony being the best boxer....The best fighter now that is a different story...No one is knocking Tony out,,,No one is stopping him and anyone from 140-154 that tries to slug with him Including Williams,,,,Gets knocked the Phuk out!!!

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Why do you ahve to slug it out to beat someone? Mayweather would make easy work of Tony by staying outside Tony's effective range(which is with you on the ropes and him right on you). He doesn't have the throne at WW, he beat Cotto who is a great fighter, but thats one guy in the deepest division in boxing, you have to do more than that to be the best in the division because even Cotto was the ring WW champion. Right now Margarito is the best contender in the WW division when Paul is fighting north of it and Mayweather remains retired.

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:confused::confused::confused:.....That makes no sense.....He beats Cotto who was considered the best WW in the division yet he is not considered the top fighter in the division?....Yet in your opp...Williams who is now campaigning at 154 is ranked above him at 147???.....

Have you been drinking your New Years champaign early Teath?..

You are actualy using a retired fighter in your arguement.....PBF is gone...finished...bye.....


Thats like me saying PBF was the best in the WW division and P4P fighter in boxing while Ray Robinson remained dead:rolleyes:

If you, Daxx, were paying attention to anything you would know that Mayweather is coming back. He has plainly stated he is looking for the biggest fight available at any weight. Also I, among others, would flatly argue that
1) Cotto wasn't necessarily the best WW in the world, Paul Williams has a valid argument as long as he is willing to fight at WW when he gets the oppertunity.
2) P. Williams isn't campaigning at JR MW, but fighting there because Margarito won't fight him.
3) You can call Margarito the top guy at Ww, but in this current situation he is not the linear champ, he is not recognized as the ring champ either, thus he is the top guy in the division but that is different being in the position Mayweather was in before he retired. There is a difference between being the top spot in the division and being the best fighter in the division. Clottey would argue MArgarito's top spot, Williams would, Cotto would like a rematch as well. Margarito position is also very precarious because whenever Williams or Mayweather feel like dropping in then Margarito drops to #3.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

If you, Daxx, were paying attention to anything you would know that Mayweather is coming back. He has plainly stated he is looking for the biggest fight available at any weight. Also I, among others, would flatly argue that
1) Cotto wasn't necessarily the best WW in the world, Paul Williams has a valid argument as long as he is willing to fight at WW when he gets the oppertunity.
2) P. Williams isn't campaigning at JR MW, but fighting there because Margarito won't fight him.
3) You can call Margarito the top guy at Ww, but in this current situation he is not the linear champ, he is not recognized as the ring champ either, thus he is the top guy in the division but that is different being in the position Mayweather was in before he retired. There is a difference between being the top spot in the division and being the best fighter in the division. Clottey would argue MArgarito's top spot, Williams would, Cotto would like a rematch as well. Margarito position is also very precarious because whenever Williams or Mayweather feel like dropping in then Margarito drops to #3.

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At the end of the day though, Mayweather is not back yet, and Williams is not in WW division at the moment. Margo beat Clottey and Cotto so that makes him the top guy until the other two decide to get back in. What if's, maybe's, hopefullys or otherwise dont count.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

If you, Daxx, were paying attention to anything you would know that Mayweather is coming back. He has plainly stated he is looking for the biggest fight available at any weight. Also I, among others, would flatly argue that
1) Cotto wasn't necessarily the best WW in the world, Paul Williams has a valid argument as long as he is willing to fight at WW when he gets the oppertunity.
2) P. Williams isn't campaigning at JR MW, but fighting there because Margarito won't fight him.
3) You can call Margarito the top guy at Ww, but in this current situation he is not the linear champ, he is not recognized as the ring champ either, thus he is the top guy in the division but that is different being in the position Mayweather was in before he retired. There is a difference between being the top spot in the division and being the best fighter in the division. Clottey would argue MArgarito's top spot, Williams would, Cotto would like a rematch as well. Margarito position is also very precarious because whenever Williams or Mayweather feel like dropping in then Margarito drops to #3.

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At the end of the day though, Mayweather is not back yet, and Williams is not in WW division at the moment. Margo beat Clottey and Cotto so that makes him the top guy until the other two decide to get back in. What if's, maybe's, hopefullys or otherwise dont count.

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Thank You!.....