Re: Hatton-Pac in danger - Pac wants 60-40 split
I think this is just Golden Boy whispering in Manny's ear and trying to cause trouble for Arum. Arum is rightly pointing out that Hatton brings a ton of money to the table via UK PPVs but he's also supposedly signed an exclusive deal with Setanta, so there's lots of intrigue here. I expect the fight will be made with an eventual 50/50 split.
Re: Hatton-Pac in danger - Pac wants 60-40 split
I personally think purse splits should have an advantage for the winner. In this case, pay both men 40% of the purse and the winner gets the extra 20%. I know it won't happen but it sure puts something else on the line.
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I don't know what Pac's team are thinking. Do they really think a fight with Mayweather could firstly generate much more than this fight and secondly, that Floyd would agree a 50:50 split to fight Manny?
In that case, Floyd would have to settle for less than 50/50 because he would be coming out of retirement and would have been inactive for quite sometime. Pac at that point would definitely have the controlling power. What say does Mayweather get for purse when it would be Mayweather having to chase Pac cause he's the one making all the noise in the boxing world right now.
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I would have thought Hatton brought the lions share of money to the gig. Certainly in fan numbers.
Is Pac gonna sell more PPV than Hatton in the States? Considering his numbers pre Oscar, I wouldn't have thought he brings that much
Anyway.. So we're all in agreement that Pac's bottled it. Good.
Seems that way. 60:40 is just silly. If that's Manny's offer then he is a chicken, no doubt.
I honestly don't think Manny is afraid to fight Hatton. Manny always takes big fights. He's in a much higher position for bargaining right now and he's trying to get himself some advantages.
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Pac's just testing the waters I think. He has more options than Hatton since he can go back to lightweight as well. Probably thinks Hatton needs him more than the other way round.
I agree with Pac testing the waters. EVERYONE wants a piece of Manny and Hatton is the one that has to get in line not the other way around.
Re: Hatton-Pac in danger - Pac wants 60-40 split
In my eyes manny is lucky to get offered a 50:50 split.. Hatton definately brings more to the table with a larger fan base, better ppv ratings aswell as a overall better boxing record IMO.
What is mannys options if he doesn't fight Hatton? Mayweather certainly wouldn't settle for a 60:40 purse in favour of manny, infact he'd probably want it the other way around.
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If it was possible for Manny to get 30K from the Philippines to come over then yeah maybe but no way, Hatton is going to be the draw simply because he's Hatton 50-50 should be fair but talking money splits in boxing is nauseating.
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Fricken Asians they are always bartering for stuff.;)
Hatton should come back with an offer of a boat load of fish and see what they say to that.:lickish: yum fish.
Re: Hatton-Pac in danger - Pac wants 60-40 split
I say 40:40 with the other 20 going to the winner should be fair.
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JoeyUK
In my eyes manny is lucky to get offered a 50:50 split.. Hatton definately brings more to the table with a larger fan base, better ppv ratings aswell as a overall better boxing record IMO.
What is mannys options if he doesn't fight Hatton? Mayweather certainly wouldn't settle for a 60:40 purse in favour of manny, infact he'd probably want it the other way around.
Hatton may have a bigger fan base but Pacquiao is sure a close second. It's not like it's one fighter is bringing significantly more to the table. Both offer a great deal when it comes to the financial aspects of the bout.
And your comment about the boxing record, no way Hatton's record is better than Manny's.
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I say 40:40 with the other 20 going to the winner should be fair.
Yes Sheep! I knew we would be on the same page here bud!
Re: Hatton-Pac in danger - Pac wants 60-40 split
There's a reason Hatton-Lazcano was on Versus and not HBO or Show Time. Nobody in the US gives a fukk about Hatton on his own. Hatton is not the bigger draw here. Pac is. Truth be told, I'm shocked Hatton is even in a position to get 40%. He needs to jump on that. Hatton needs Pac. Pac doesn't need Hatton.
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There's a reason Hatton-Lazcano was on Versus and not HBO or Show Time. Nobody in the US gives a fukk about Hatton on his own. Hatton is not the bigger draw here. Pac is. Truth be told, I'm shocked Hatton is even in a position to get 40%. He needs to jump on that. Hatton needs Pac. Pac doesn't need Hatton.
Its coz it was in the UK. HBO offered him big money to have it in the US, but he turned it down because alot of fans travelled to see Mayweather take him apart. I'm not suggesting it would have been on PPV, but HBO wanted it.
Dude, apart from Oscar, Hatton is the biggest earner in the sport right now. I know you can't stand him, but the guy has made millions.
Re: Hatton-Pac in danger - Pac wants 60-40 split
Even through Hatton does deserve parity, I would take the fight because I am sure he will beat Pac Man. Manny took a huge risk against ODH which paid off, Hatton's did not against Mayweather. When Hatton wins, he will be the man and can then dictate terms to the next big match probably against Mayweather, and he could even negotiate it at light welter. In short I would take the offer because in the long term it will work in his favour.
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There's a reason Hatton-Lazcano was on Versus and not HBO or Show Time. Nobody in the US gives a fukk about Hatton on his own. Hatton is not the bigger draw here. Pac is. Truth be told, I'm shocked Hatton is even in a position to get 40%. He needs to jump on that. Hatton needs Pac. Pac doesn't need Hatton.
Its coz it was in the UK. HBO offered him big money to have it in the US, but he turned it down because alot of fans travelled to see Mayweather take him apart. I'm not suggesting it would have been on PPV, but HBO wanted it.
Dude, apart from Oscar, Hatton is the biggest earner in the sport right now. I know you can't stand him, but the guy has made millions.
Come on now. Lets not tell tales. The fight was always going to be in the UK. That was the whole point. It was never going to be in the US. HBO wanted to change the start time of the fight. HBO didn't want to show that shiit at noon. Who was going to watch it in the first place? Much less at noon? Hatton for whatever his reasons were said no. HBO said "Fukk you than". "No big loss. We just won't televise it. And didn't televise it. Show Time laughed at it. Versus finally decided to pick it up.
HBO don't like showing fights at noon. It don't benefit them. But some times they don't have a choice. HBO has shown Wladimir Klitschko fight multiple times around noon. They'll give Wlad his way. Cuz Wlad matters. They refused to give Hatton his way. Cuz they know Hatton means nothing here in the US.
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bzkfn
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Violent Demise
There's a reason Hatton-Lazcano was on Versus and not HBO or Show Time. Nobody in the US gives a fukk about Hatton on his own. Hatton is not the bigger draw here. Pac is. Truth be told, I'm shocked Hatton is even in a position to get 40%. He needs to jump on that. Hatton needs Pac. Pac doesn't need Hatton.
Its coz it was in the UK. HBO offered him big money to have it in the US, but he turned it down because alot of fans travelled to see Mayweather take him apart. I'm not suggesting it would have been on PPV, but HBO wanted it.
Dude, apart from Oscar, Hatton is the biggest earner in the sport right now. I know you can't stand him, but the guy has made millions.
Come on now. Lets not tell tales. The fight was always going to be in the UK. That was the whole point. It was never going to be in the US. HBO wanted to change the start time of the fight. HBO didn't want to show that shiit at noon. Who was going to watch it in the first place? Much less at noon? Hatton for whatever his reasons were said no. HBO said "Fukk you than". "No big loss. We just won't televise it. And didn't televise it. Show Time laughed at it. Versus finally decided to pick it up.
HBO don't like showing fights at noon. It don't benefit them. But some times they don't have a choice. HBO has shown Wladimir Klitschko fight multiple times around noon. They'll give Wlad his way. Cuz Wlad matters. They refused to give Hatton his way. Cuz they know Hatton means nothing here in the US.
I know it was always going to be in the UK, but they asked for the US or at least a US friendly time as you stated. I know why they didn't show it. But honestly...and this will go completely off topic...after showing the 3 fights Wlad has had last year, you believe HBO think all of America is gunna tune in at noon to see him fight?
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bzkfn
Its coz it was in the UK. HBO offered him big money to have it in the US, but he turned it down because alot of fans travelled to see Mayweather take him apart. I'm not suggesting it would have been on PPV, but HBO wanted it.
Dude, apart from Oscar, Hatton is the biggest earner in the sport right now. I know you can't stand him, but the guy has made millions.
Come on now. Lets not tell tales. The fight was always going to be in the UK. That was the whole point. It was never going to be in the US. HBO wanted to change the start time of the fight. HBO didn't want to show that shiit at noon. Who was going to watch it in the first place? Much less at noon? Hatton for whatever his reasons were said no. HBO said "Fukk you than". "No big loss. We just won't televise it. And didn't televise it. Show Time laughed at it. Versus finally decided to pick it up.
HBO don't like showing fights at noon. It don't benefit them. But some times they don't have a choice. HBO has shown Wladimir Klitschko fight multiple times around noon. They'll give Wlad his way. Cuz Wlad matters. They refused to give Hatton his way. Cuz they know Hatton means nothing here in the US.
I know it was always going to be in the UK, but they asked for the US or at least a US friendly time as you stated. I know why they didn't show it. But honestly...and this will go completely off topic...after showing the 3 fights Wlad has had last year, you believe HBO think all of America is gunna tune in at noon to see him fight?
HBO has no choice but to think it. Who else they going to back? They invested a lot in the Wlad. They going to ride him until somebody brutally knocks him out.
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bzkfn
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Violent Demise
Come on now. Lets not tell tales. The fight was always going to be in the UK. That was the whole point. It was never going to be in the US. HBO wanted to change the start time of the fight. HBO didn't want to show that shiit at noon. Who was going to watch it in the first place? Much less at noon? Hatton for whatever his reasons were said no. HBO said "Fukk you than". "No big loss. We just won't televise it. And didn't televise it. Show Time laughed at it. Versus finally decided to pick it up.
HBO don't like showing fights at noon. It don't benefit them. But some times they don't have a choice. HBO has shown Wladimir Klitschko fight multiple times around noon. They'll give Wlad his way. Cuz Wlad matters. They refused to give Hatton his way. Cuz they know Hatton means nothing here in the US.
I know it was always going to be in the UK, but they asked for the US or at least a US friendly time as you stated. I know why they didn't show it. But honestly...and this will go completely off topic...after showing the 3 fights Wlad has had last year, you believe HBO think all of America is gunna tune in at noon to see him fight?
HBO has no choice but to think it. Who else they going to back? They invested a lot in the Wlad. They going to ride him until somebody brutally knocks him out.
and that man will be david haye;D
Re: Hatton-Pac in danger - Pac wants 60-40 split
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killersheep
I say 40:40 with the other 20 going to the winner should be fair.
prob with that is if it goes to the cards. they could both be decent fellas & fight for a draw then they get 50/50 split:o
i agree wot people say abt hatton needing the fight more than pacman though, at first i thought bollocks to a 60/40 split but as already said if hatton wins he is the man & can demand 60/40 if there is a rematch