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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
who? who? wtf... Vic didn't know who KO'ed him??
but I forgive Vic if he really didn't hear the name "Nonito Donaire" clearly (intentionally or unintentionally) ... :lolhaha:
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Originally Posted by Julius Rain
who? who? wtf... Vic didn't know who KO'ed him??
but I forgive Vic if he really didn't hear the name "Nonito Donaire" clearly (intentionally or unintentionally) ... :lolhaha:
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Darchinyan probably said who; as Donaire has been pretty much forgetable since that win!Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
who? who? wtf... Vic didn't know who KO'ed him??
but I forgive Vic if he really didn't hear the name "Nonito Donaire" clearly (intentionally or unintentionally) ... :lolhaha:
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All I'll say is watch out for Cobra Martinez...
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Originally Posted by GalaxyDarchinyan probably said who; as Donaire has been pretty much forgetable since that win!Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
who? who? wtf... Vic didn't know who KO'ed him??
but I forgive Vic if he really didn't hear the name "Nonito Donaire" clearly (intentionally or unintentionally) ... :lolhaha:
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All I'll say is watch out for Cobra Martinez...
maybe side effect of the KO inflicted by Donaire... He got amnesia with that shot.. :lolhaha:
Could be but he's in the drivers seat right now even though he suffered the loss, what has Donaire done lately?Quote:
Originally Posted by antimoronQuote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyDarchinyan probably said who; as Donaire has been pretty much forgetable since that win!Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
All I'll say is watch out for Cobra Martinez...
maybe side effect of the KO inflicted by Donaire... He got amnesia with that shot.. :lolhaha:
Donaire done nothing for sure.. but that doesn't mean he is less than Darchi.. That 1 loss on darchi will always be there.. its not the other way around that some people think. Darchi needs to avenge that loss if he really wanted to clean his record and say that he beat everyone he had face.. donaire maybe inactive for the simple reason that he mess up his promotional contract before.. not because he is ducking somebody.. you know that for sure..Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyCould be but he's in the drivers seat right now even though he suffered the loss, what has Donaire done lately?Quote:
Originally Posted by antimoronQuote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
maybe side effect of the KO inflicted by Donaire... He got amnesia with that shot.. :lolhaha:
No ones saying Donaire is ducking anyone but he is wasting his talent & now with Martinez in his tail it may be too late, as for Darchinyan ducking Donaire I don't think so he's already fought some of the best fighters around the weight & proven he'll fight anyone. It may be just a case that Darchinyan has bigger fish to fry i.e Montiel & some of the bigger name, bigger money fights at 122. Not saying he'll win those but at 33 he needs to make his move now & unfortunately knocking out Donaire may not be in his plans!Quote:
Originally Posted by antimoronDonaire done nothing for sure.. but that doesn't mean he is less than Darchi.. That 1 loss on darchi will always be there.. its not the other way around that some people think. Darchi needs to avenge that loss if he really wanted to clean his record and say that he beat everyone he had face.. donaire maybe inactive for the simple reason that he mess up his promotional contract before.. not because he is ducking somebody.. you know that for sure..Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyCould be but he's in the drivers seat right now even though he suffered the loss, what has Donaire done lately?Quote:
Originally Posted by antimoron
Yeah darchi fought some of the best but still that 1 loss will always be there.. Don't tell me darchi is better than donaire right now? coz it isn't.. Donaire beat his ass convincingly.. Its not donaires fault that they cant have a rematch.. its Gary Shaw becoz of stupid promotional contract. If donaire is not a big fish so be it.. At least he beat the man of the division he is reigning now.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyNo ones saying Donaire is ducking anyone but he is wasting his talent & now with Martinez in his tail it may be too late, as for Darchinyan ducking Donaire I don't think so he's already fought some of the best fighters around the weight & proven he'll fight anyone. It may be just a case that Darchinyan has bigger fish to fry i.e Montiel & some of the bigger name, bigger money fights at 122. Not saying he'll win those but at 33 he needs to make his move now & unfortunately knocking out Donaire may not be in his plans!Quote:
Originally Posted by antimoronDonaire done nothing for sure.. but that doesn't mean he is less than Darchi.. That 1 loss on darchi will always be there.. its not the other way around that some people think. Darchi needs to avenge that loss if he really wanted to clean his record and say that he beat everyone he had face.. donaire maybe inactive for the simple reason that he mess up his promotional contract before.. not because he is ducking somebody.. you know that for sure..Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
I agree Shaw should make that fight & as a Darchinyan fan I believe its a fight he can win!Quote:
Originally Posted by antimoronYeah darchi fought some of the best but still that 1 loss will always be there.. Don't tell me darchi is better than donaire right now? coz it isn't.. Donaire beat his ass convincingly.. Its not donaires fault that they cant have a rematch.. its Gary Shaw becoz of stupid promotional contract. If donaire is not a big fish so be it.. At least he beat the man of the division he is reigning now.Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyNo ones saying Donaire is ducking anyone but he is wasting his talent & now with Martinez in his tail it may be too late, as for Darchinyan ducking Donaire I don't think so he's already fought some of the best fighters around the weight & proven he'll fight anyone. It may be just a case that Darchinyan has bigger fish to fry i.e Montiel & some of the bigger name, bigger money fights at 122. Not saying he'll win those but at 33 he needs to make his move now & unfortunately knocking out Donaire may not be in his plans!Quote:
Originally Posted by antimoron
Donaire is very talented & I hate to see him wasting it with all the inactivity. Hopefully he's back on track & can start building his own legacy rather than ride Darchinyans. I think he's got a tough task ahead in Martinez but a win there will prove what a top talent he is!
I got to disagree with this statement bro Galaxy... After the Donaire fight, Darchinyan fought Catubay, Gorres, Kirilov, Mijares and Arce... I consider Donaire a much bigger fish than the aforementioned boxers except maybe for Mijares... Donaire a bigger fish plus he has a loss to avenge, there's enough reasons for the rematch to happen but it's just unfortunate Gary Shaw does not want this rematch fight for whatever his personal motives might be... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyNo ones saying Donaire is ducking anyone but he is wasting his talent & now with Martinez in his tail it may be too late, as for Darchinyan ducking Donaire I don't think so he's already fought some of the best fighters around the weight & proven he'll fight anyone. It may be just a case that Darchinyan has bigger fish to fry i.e Montiel & some of the bigger name, bigger money fights at 122. Not saying he'll win those but at 33 he needs to make his move now & unfortunately knocking out Donaire may not be in his plans!Quote:
Originally Posted by antimoronDonaire done nothing for sure.. but that doesn't mean he is less than Darchi.. That 1 loss on darchi will always be there.. its not the other way around that some people think. Darchi needs to avenge that loss if he really wanted to clean his record and say that he beat everyone he had face.. donaire maybe inactive for the simple reason that he mess up his promotional contract before.. not because he is ducking somebody.. you know that for sure..Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
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Depends what u mean by bigger fish. In boxing talent Donaire is arguably a bigger fish than the mentioned Vic opponents but in terms of moneymaking, Arce and Mijares are bigger fish. As is Monteil and the big little men at 122.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI got to disagree with this statement bro Galaxy... After the Donaire fight, Darchinyan fought Catubay, Gorres, Kirilov, Mijares and Arce... I consider Donaire a much bigger fish than the aforementioned boxers except maybe for Mijares... Donaire a bigger fish plus he has a loss to avenge, there's enough reasons for the rematch to happen but it's just unfortunate Gary Shaw does not want this rematch fight for whatever his personal motives might be... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyNo ones saying Donaire is ducking anyone but he is wasting his talent & now with Martinez in his tail it may be too late, as for Darchinyan ducking Donaire I don't think so he's already fought some of the best fighters around the weight & proven he'll fight anyone. It may be just a case that Darchinyan has bigger fish to fry i.e Montiel & some of the bigger name, bigger money fights at 122. Not saying he'll win those but at 33 he needs to make his move now & unfortunately knocking out Donaire may not be in his plans!Quote:
Originally Posted by antimoron
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Shaw shouldn't stand in the way of a rematch. But I do see where he's coming from. He pretty much made Donaire. Got him the big fight against Darchinyan. And convinced Show Time to televise his fight with Luis Maldonado when it wasn't going to. Only to watch Donaire convince himself he's a superstar and thinking he was owed everything. Donaire demands were the reason Donaire sat on the sidelines as much his he did. Shaw did his best to try and accommodate Donaire and his outrageous demands. Only to watch him stab him in the back and jump ship. Disloyaity at it's lowest.
Yet another reason our sport is dying. Gary Shaw, who also is/was (not sure the state of the EliteXC and if he has fighters under other MMA promotions) an MMA promoter is costing boxing a good fight for his own selfish reasons. I would say to Gary, if you want to really pay Donaire back, why not let the "new" Vic kick his ass? Our sport doesn't need to miss out on any big fights and we certainly don't need promoters of any stature acting like Gary Shaw.
I agree that in terms of money, Mijares and Arce fights could be bigger than a Donaire fight... But you can't totally say that Darchi is looking for bigger fish since he also fought the lesser Catubay, Gorres and Kirilov while ignoring the Donaire rematch which I consider a much bigger fight for Darchi compared to the 3 fights mentioned...Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleDepends what u mean by bigger fish. In boxing talent Donaire is arguably a bigger fish than the mentioned Vic opponents but in terms of moneymaking, Arce and Mijares are bigger fish. As is Monteil and the big little men at 122.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI got to disagree with this statement bro Galaxy... After the Donaire fight, Darchinyan fought Catubay, Gorres, Kirilov, Mijares and Arce... I consider Donaire a much bigger fish than the aforementioned boxers except maybe for Mijares... Donaire a bigger fish plus he has a loss to avenge, there's enough reasons for the rematch to happen but it's just unfortunate Gary Shaw does not want this rematch fight for whatever his personal motives might be... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
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If Gary Shaw said that he don't want to reward Donaire with the "3 belts" that Darchi now wearing then Shaw is really afraid Darchi might lost again to Donaire in a rematch coz if he is confident in Darchi winning this time over Donaire then he should not have blocked a rematch fight... ;)
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Catubay was a comeback fight, and in terms of moneymaking Kirilov and Gorres are easily at the level of Donaire. Anyhow Gorres was an eliminator fight and Kirilov was for a title at 115.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI agree that in terms of money, Mijares and Arce fights could be bigger than a Donaire fight... But you can't totally say that Darchi is looking for bigger fish since he also fought the lesser Catubay, Gorres and Kirilov while ignoring the Donaire rematch which I consider a much bigger fight for Darchi compared to the 3 fights mentioned...Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleDepends what u mean by bigger fish. In boxing talent Donaire is arguably a bigger fish than the mentioned Vic opponents but in terms of moneymaking, Arce and Mijares are bigger fish. As is Monteil and the big little men at 122.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
If Gary Shaw said that he don't want to reward Donaire with the "3 belts" that Darchi now wearing then Shaw is really afraid Darchi might lost again to Donaire in a rematch coz if he is confident in Darchi winning this time over Donaire then he should not have blocked a rematch fight... ;)
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Donaire is a greatly skilled fighter but still a relative no name.
i dont think so... so why the hell still the boxing press wanted him to rematch donaire if he is a no name fighter? Dont twist it body.. Its Darchi who needs Donaire to show his greatness not the other way around. Donaire knock him big time..Quote:
Originally Posted by eagleCatubay was a comeback fight, and in terms of moneymaking Kirilov and Gorres are easily at the level of Donaire. Anyhow Gorres was an eliminator fight and Kirilov was for a title at 115.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI agree that in terms of money, Mijares and Arce fights could be bigger than a Donaire fight... But you can't totally say that Darchi is looking for bigger fish since he also fought the lesser Catubay, Gorres and Kirilov while ignoring the Donaire rematch which I consider a much bigger fight for Darchi compared to the 3 fights mentioned...Quote:
Originally Posted by eagle
If Gary Shaw said that he don't want to reward Donaire with the "3 belts" that Darchi now wearing then Shaw is really afraid Darchi might lost again to Donaire in a rematch coz if he is confident in Darchi winning this time over Donaire then he should not have blocked a rematch fight... ;)
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Donaire is a greatly skilled fighter but still a relative no name.