Re: Interview with the G-Man
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Fenster
That video is a few years old.
Last year - might have been 2007 - Benn held a massive fundraiser for him, they flew McClellan over to London and everything
Yeah, I watched a video shot a few days before the event yesterday. They interviewed Benn and he was almost in tears over it all, it was obvious he feels extremely guilty and I'd imagine anyone else would aswell.
I then decided to dig up the fight on youtube and wow what a fight, although I don't think the first round should of been a TKO.. I mean, only 2 solid punches connected to Benn before he fell through the ropes, and the rest of the round he did pretty well to avoid the rest of his flurries. But the ref was a bit of a cunt, almost always seeming to break the fight up to allow Benn to catch a swift breather.. never trust the french.
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Re: Interview with the G-Man
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JoeyUK
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
That video is a few years old.
Last year - might have been 2007 - Benn held a massive fundraiser for him, they flew McClellan over to London and everything
Yeah, I watched a video shot a few days before the event yesterday. They interviewed Benn and he was almost in tears over it all, it was obvious he feels extremely guilty and I'd imagine anyone else would aswell.
I then decided to dig up the fight on youtube and wow what a fight, although
I don't think the first round should of been a TKO.. I mean, only 2 solid punches connected to Benn before he fell through the ropes and the rest of the round he did pretty well to avoid the rest of his flurries. But the ref was a bit of a cunt, almost always seeming to break the fight up to allow Benn to catch a swift breather.. never trust the french.
Take no notice of that crap. The ropes were stopping him from falling. Once he landed he got up with plenty of time.
A few years ago, before the fight was put on the net, certain people were seriously claiming Benn was given over 30 seconds to get back in the ring.. and the crowd were helping to carry him back :rolleyes:
Re: Interview with the G-Man
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Fenster
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JoeyUK
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
That video is a few years old.
Last year - might have been 2007 - Benn held a massive fundraiser for him, they flew McClellan over to London and everything
Yeah, I watched a video shot a few days before the event yesterday. They interviewed Benn and he was almost in tears over it all, it was obvious he feels extremely guilty and I'd imagine anyone else would aswell.
I then decided to dig up the fight on youtube and wow what a fight, although
I don't think the first round should of been a TKO.. I mean, only 2 solid punches connected to Benn before he fell through the ropes and the rest of the round he did pretty well to avoid the rest of his flurries. But the ref was a bit of a cunt, almost always seeming to break the fight up to allow Benn to catch a swift breather.. never trust the french.
Take no notice of that crap. The ropes were stopping him from falling. Once he landed he got up with plenty of time.
A few years ago, before the fight was put on the net, certain people were seriously claiming Benn was given over 30 seconds to get back in the ring.. and the crowd were helping to carry him back :rolleyes:
Thats one of the best fights of all time. Hands down. Its a crying shame that the tragedy overshadows it.
I see little wrong with the first round either, Benn was just about up okay.
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Miles you clearly didnt watch it closely enough. Did you miss the time keeper giving Benn smelling salts? Or the journalist slipping horse shoes into Benns gloves?
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To the people who say that they can't forgive what he did, have a think about it,
Gerald was a product of his environment. He is no better nor worse than those before him, or young men of a similar situation today.
In boxing Gerald rose from the ghetto. He invested his life, his body and soul to our sport. He sacrificed nearly all vices in order to reach prominence.
He reatined one vice, dog fighting. An addiction surely, frowned upon by the majority, but a cult "sport" that has masses of followers even today.
Geralad McClellan was not the only one to partake in this sport. Not the first, not the last. He was a mere participant.
A participant, like all the others, that thinks this is an ordinary sport.
So, how can it be said that he doesn't deserve sympathy?
We love the sport, idolise its participants and recognise their sacrifices, but because they hold a differently mentality to our own we don't sympathise with them when they are life-shatteringly injured?
P[eople are all unique mentally, some deem different thinks acceptable.
Gerald and thousands like him see nothing unnatural about Dog Fighting.
He was raised this way, didn't choose his own path.
Product of his environment.
I can't watch the videos anymore.
He was an awesome fighter, a huge prospect, a natural athlete and now his life is wasted.
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I think its a bit of a cop out to absolve him of any blame due to his upbringing or his environtment.
What if he was a paedophile?
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Memphis
I think its a bit of a cop out to absolve him of any blame due to his upbringing or his environtment.
What if he was a paedophile?
Being a paedophile would be a personal thing would it not?
Dogfighting, its a ghetto sport. Its undertaken in nearly every country.
I just feel that he can't be fully blamed for something that is a tradition among the people in his area.
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Memphis
Miles you clearly didnt watch it closely enough. Did you miss the time keeper giving Benn smelling salts? Or the journalist slipping horse shoes into Benns gloves?
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;D
I must have seen the edited version. I want to see the directors cut now.
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I understand that its a cultural thing and being around it your more likely to participate than if not in that environment. Still doesnt make it acceptable though, he either choose to torture dogs or he isnt capable of distinguishing between sport and cruelty.
I also dont think anyone wakes up one morning and decides that they are going to become a kiddie fiddler.
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Can I be the one who moves this debate away from paedophiles ;D Bad e.g
Box on
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Memphis
Can I be the one who moves this debate away from paedophiles ;D Bad e.g
Box on
Interview with the G-man? Sounds like we are talking about Gary Glitter at the moment! ;D
I dont really approve of dog fighting, but then I dont really approve of things like bullfighting or fox hunting either. They are all pretty barbaric and gruesome.
McClennan has my sympathy though because he took a risk in a sport I love and on the way became a cropper. I wouldnt like that to happen to any fighter.
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JT Rock
Nigel Benn.... Limp, motionless, slumped into the ropes not capable of defending himself.... A spectacular 1st round Ko that never happened :rolleyes:
Fuk that POS ref, who allowed Benn's constant rabbit punching in the back of the head and headbutts.
I get nauseous when I here people say Benn fought courageous, he was TKO'd in round 1 and cheated his ass off the rest of the fight, with a biased Ref who broke them apart numerous times to let Benn recover.. it was 2 on 1 that night
At least I can take Solace in the fact that Gerald was ahead on the cards when his body gave out in the 10th
Benn was back in the ring within 10 seconds of McClellan being pulled off of him (even if he hadn't the rules state that a fighter can be afforded extra time to re-enter the ring) Benn actually took 2 or 3 shots more than he should have because the ropes stopped him falling completely and the ref let McClellan keep punching. So that whole 1st round TKO theory is bollox imo.......however........... I do agree the referee was sh1te and should not have kept breaking them like he did, that was shocking refereeing
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McClellan wasn't just into dog fighting he was sadistic.
His own relations described him as - frightening and extremely violent.
He would buy dogs from the pet shop, tape their mouths shut and let his pitbull rip them to bits. He shot his dog for losing a fight.
His former coach described the pleasure McClellan got from running over and killing a Flamingo bird at a shopping mall... so much so that he continued to circle the place killing loads of them.
I don't think any of this means he deserved to end up brain damaged. But he was a sicko.
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Fenster
McClellan wasn't just into dog fighting he was sadistic.
His own relations described him as - frightening and extremely violent.
He would buy dogs from the pet shop, tape their mouths shut and let his pitbull rip them to bits. He shot his dog for losing a fight.
His former coach described the pleasure McClellan got from running over and killing a Flamingo bird at a shopping mall... so much so that he continued to circle the place killing loads of them.
I don't think any of this means he deserved to end up brain damaged. But he was a sicko.
Never heard that one;D
Crazy bastard