Re: So much for Mayweather-Marquez
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TitoFan
Mayweather's a smart dude. He knows he's been out of the spotlight for too long. P4P lists have left him behind. So he's making noise about a comeback to stir the waters, and get his fans all riled up again. In the end, he'll slink back into retirement.
Early on I thought he was just blowing smoke about coming back,but he's starting to pop up all over the tube here.They just aired a AT&T commercial for the desk tops and there he is.Its a spoof,hes in the ring with gloves,trunks and looks cut to shreds trying to use a keyboard wearing gloves.He still cant act though lol.Its like hes trying to get his name/face out.
Re: So much for Mayweather-Marquez
It's typical of Floyd to be such a pussy... I mean, I used to have such respect for him and believed that someone as good as him would not avoid fighting anyone, because he's good enough to beat anyone.... That very well may be, but it IS becoming more and more clear to me that even if he COULD beat true class fighters and a challenging weight for him, he WON'T..
He should be looking at TRUE 147 pound fighters.. EVEN looking at 154 pound fighters who may come down or fight at a catch weight..
If he wants to show he's the best and go out with a bang, do that.. Not try to find the smallest champ you can to fight... It's pussy style...
And someone can say "why does he have to prove himself again" just like was said over and over and over with Calzaghe.... The point is, he's a great champ, but right now Floyd is chasing piss weak fights...
I hope Marquez fights at 147 so Mayweather has all the advantage, then he ducks down and punches mayweather in his hair muff and sends him home crying...
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Re: So much for Mayweather-Marquez
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Mayweather's a smart dude. He knows he's been out of the spotlight for too long. P4P lists have left him behind. So he's making noise about a comeback to stir the waters, and get his fans all riled up again. In the end, he'll slink back into retirement.
Yet bar Pac, Hatton & Cotto he probably continues to generate more threads, debates & news articles than almost any active fighters apart from the aforementioned.
True enough, a fact he's well aware of and plays like a violin.
;)
Re: So much for Mayweather-Marquez
Just wrote a really long and detailed post with pictures and I got an error on submit and firefox shut down (never had firefox do that before)
In short...........
Hatton had no advantage at all in the fight. Everything was in Floyds favour. Cortez....watch the Hatton Castillo fight, they clinch, fight on the inside and he allows Hatton to do what he does.
In the Floyd fight, as soon as Hatton gets near "NOOOO RICKY LET GO"
and "DONT HIT HIM WHEN HE DUCKS LIKE THAT"
Re: So much for Mayweather-Marquez
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Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Mayweather's a smart dude. He knows he's been out of the spotlight for too long. P4P lists have left him behind. So he's making noise about a comeback to stir the waters, and get his fans all riled up again. In the end, he'll slink back into retirement.
Early on I thought he was just blowing smoke about coming back,but he's starting to pop up all over the tube here.They just aired a AT&T commercial for the desk tops and there he is.Its a spoof,hes in the ring with gloves,trunks and looks cut to shreds trying to use a keyboard wearing gloves.He still cant act though lol.Its like hes trying to get his name/face out.
Ego.
That 3-letter word all great fighters suffer from. He's trying to get his name/face out alright. But will he "walk the walk" when it comes to facing the best out there at 147? (I doubt he'll fight either at 140 or at 154).
Re: So much for Mayweather-Marquez
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
Mayweather's a smart dude. He knows he's been out of the spotlight for too long. P4P lists have left him behind. So he's making noise about a comeback to stir the waters, and get his fans all riled up again. In the end, he'll slink back into retirement.
Early on I thought he was just blowing smoke about coming back,but he's starting to pop up all over the tube here.They just aired a AT&T commercial for the desk tops and there he is.Its a spoof,hes in the ring with gloves,trunks and looks cut to shreds trying to use a keyboard wearing gloves.He still cant act though lol.Its like hes trying to get his name/face out.
Ego.
That 3-letter word all great fighters suffer from. He's trying to get his name/face out alright. But will he "walk the walk" when it comes to facing the best out there at 147? (I doubt he'll fight either at 140 or at 154).
The mans ego over takes his skillset most of the time.Loud,brash and a yearning for the spot light.If he cant get it in the ring,or chooses not to,maybe he'll give Vince McMahon at the WWE another call.
Re: So much for Mayweather-Marquez
to the people giving Floyd beef about him wanting the fight at 147 let me ask this. Do you think Marquez would have any bigger chance at 140 against Floyd?
Re: So much for Mayweather-Marquez
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Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Early on I thought he was just blowing smoke about coming back,but he's starting to pop up all over the tube here.They just aired a AT&T commercial for the desk tops and there he is.Its a spoof,hes in the ring with gloves,trunks and looks cut to shreds trying to use a keyboard wearing gloves.He still cant act though lol.Its like hes trying to get his name/face out.
Ego.
That 3-letter word all great fighters suffer from. He's trying to get his name/face out alright. But will he "walk the walk" when it comes to facing the best out there at 147? (I doubt he'll fight either at 140 or at 154).
The mans ego over takes his skillset most of the time.Loud,brash and a yearning for the spot light.If he cant get it in the ring,or chooses not to,maybe he'll give Vince McMahon at the WWE another call.
LOL.... I forgot he'd done that. So the man's got options. He also did a stint on Dancing with the Stars. Maybe he'll try acting or singing next. Point is... I'm not entirely convinced he's willing to come back and take on the Cottos, Mosleys, or Williamses of the division.
Re: So much for Mayweather-Marquez
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Kel
Just wrote a really long and detailed post with pictures and I got an error on submit and firefox shut down (never had firefox do that before)
In short...........
Hatton had no advantage at all in the fight. Everything was in Floyds favour. Cortez....watch the Hatton Castillo fight, they clinch, fight on the inside and he allows Hatton to do what he does.
In the Floyd fight, as soon as Hatton gets near "NOOOO RICKY LET GO"
and "DONT HIT HIM WHEN HE DUCKS LIKE THAT"
I guess I'd have to see the long detailed post because all those points are answered in my post. Hatton had to deal with that partly because Brit fans pissed Cortez off by booing the US anthem. All fighters get the breaks on one occasion & not on others. Hatton did not lose because of Cortez, he lost because he was the the inferior fighter.
Re: So much for Mayweather-Marquez
Anyone who uses weight as an excuse to fight Mayweather fooling themselves, when has Mayweather ever used his size to bully someone around physically? Marquez knows that he can't beat Floyd thats why he won't fight him, not because of the weight. Floyd is too technical minded and fast to resort to rough housing a win ala Hopkins. Just like Hopkins out boxed Oscar as the fight progressed Mayweather would use speed and skill not size to beat Marquez.
Re: So much for Mayweather-Marquez
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
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Originally Posted by
Kel
Just wrote a really long and detailed post with pictures and I got an error on submit and firefox shut down (never had firefox do that before)
In short...........
Hatton had no advantage at all in the fight. Everything was in Floyds favour. Cortez....watch the Hatton Castillo fight, they clinch, fight on the inside and he allows Hatton to do what he does.
In the Floyd fight, as soon as Hatton gets near "NOOOO RICKY LET GO"
and "DONT HIT HIM WHEN HE DUCKS LIKE THAT"
I guess I'd have to see the long detailed post because all those points are answered in my post. Hatton had to deal with that partly because Brit fans pissed Cortez off by booing the US anthem. All fighters get the breaks on one occasion & not on others. Hatton did not lose because of Cortez, he lost because he was the the inferior fighter.
If a booing crowd can change how a referee does their job........they should not be a referee should they?
Re: So much for Mayweather-Marquez
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Kel
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JazMerkin
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Violent Demise
Smart move by Marquez. He ain't going to sell his soul and put himself at a disadvantage like Hatton did just for money
Hatton is no smaller than PBF naturally. The fact this comes from Beristain makes it suspect. I reckon the fight still gets made at like 143 or something. But JMM hopefully will be smart & not simply be Floyd's tune-up
There were a lot of advantages in Floyds favour, not just the weight the fight was at.
The size helps Hatton if anything PBF's footwork has slown down moving up 17 pounds way more than Ricky's has moving up 7. Look at Mayweather at 140, he was way faster than he was at 147, he would have killed Hatton IMO at 140.
Re: So much for Mayweather-Marquez
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Originally Posted by
Kel
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
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Originally Posted by
Kel
Just wrote a really long and detailed post with pictures and I got an error on submit and firefox shut down (never had firefox do that before)
In short...........
Hatton had no advantage at all in the fight. Everything was in Floyds favour. Cortez....watch the Hatton Castillo fight, they clinch, fight on the inside and he allows Hatton to do what he does.
In the Floyd fight, as soon as Hatton gets near "NOOOO RICKY LET GO"
and "DONT HIT HIM WHEN HE DUCKS LIKE THAT"
I guess I'd have to see the long detailed post because all those points are answered in my post. Hatton had to deal with that partly because Brit fans pissed Cortez off by booing the US anthem. All fighters get the breaks on one occasion & not on others. Hatton did not lose because of Cortez, he lost because he was the the inferior fighter.
If a booing crowd can change how a referee does their job........they should not be a referee should they?
I never said he was a good ref (although he was actually alright last night) he's been pretty shit in the last few years. But blaming Cortez/the weight/Billy Graham has seemed to be Hatton & his fans way of trying to rationalize the loss. Cortez was bad, but he didn't cost Ricky the fight, this was not a Soto-Lorenzo or a Bute-Andrade job
Re: So much for Mayweather-Marquez
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
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Originally Posted by
Kel
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
I guess I'd have to see the long detailed post because all those points are answered in my post. Hatton had to deal with that partly because Brit fans pissed Cortez off by booing the US anthem. All fighters get the breaks on one occasion & not on others. Hatton did not lose because of Cortez, he lost because he was the the inferior fighter.
If a booing crowd can change how a referee does their job........they should not be a referee should they?
I never said he was a good ref (although he was actually alright last night) he's been pretty shit in the last few years. But blaming Cortez/the weight/Billy Graham has seemed to be Hatton & his fans way of trying to rationalize the loss. Cortez was bad, but he didn't cost Ricky the fight, this was not a Soto-Lorenzo or a Bute-Andrade job
I'm a Hatton fan, I won't try to convince you Hatton is the better fighter, he just never got the chance to fight his fight. Not one bit
Re: So much for Mayweather-Marquez
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Kel
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Originally Posted by
JazMerkin
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Originally Posted by
Kel
If a booing crowd can change how a referee does their job........they should not be a referee should they?
I never said he was a good ref (although he was actually alright last night) he's been pretty shit in the last few years. But blaming Cortez/the weight/Billy Graham has seemed to be Hatton & his fans way of trying to rationalize the loss. Cortez was bad, but he didn't cost Ricky the fight, this was not a Soto-Lorenzo or a Bute-Andrade job
I'm a Hatton fan, I won't try to convince you Hatton is the better fighter, he just never got the chance to fight his fight. Not one bit
The problem for him was that when he was on the inside, by Hatton's own admission, Mayweather was better than him. Yes, if he's allowed to shove his head in Mayweather's face, maybe he could butt him and win, but quite frankly Ricky just isn't good enough to beat Mayweather. I'm hoping he's good enough to do it against Pacquiao as I've spent a load goin out to see him, but as tough as he is, he is too technically limited against a fighter like PBF or probably Mosley. Pacquiao isn't as technically smart, so I think Ricky can find a way maybe. Oh wait, I don't wanna talk about that fight, I can almost see SaddoBoxer hearing his PacquiaoAlert going off ;)