Does Bob Arum think we are that stupid?

Some Mayweather fans have a horrible case of persecution complex ;D Everyone's out to get him, LOL.

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Does Arum think we are actually that stupid as boxing fans that we'll buy him trying to sale a Cotto vs Pacquiao fight and yet try to put Mayweather down for fighting a smaller guy in the same press conference?

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But Cotto has proven in the past that he's willing to fight big physical welters that other fighters avoid like Clottey, Margarito and Mosley. Floyd hasn't done the same.

Arum says a lot of idiotic things, but I don't see a problem with this one comment.

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Disagree with this Baldomir though trash was big; ODH was bigger at 154 than most of Cotto's opponents have been; Gatti although poor was bigger than Floyd! other than Marquez and Hatton Floyd has been smaller than most of his opponents.

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Besides height and reach how was Hatton smaller than Mayweather? He was heavier, stronger and started at a much higher weight class, not to mention that in his first fight at WW he weighed in at 160.

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And to what advantage did that extra weight serve Baldomir??? More power? Strength??? Stamina??? I didn't see any advantage.....I mean Monte Barrett destroyed Tye Fields and Ray Mercer just walloped Tim Sylvia and Monte and Ray were the smaller guys.....at some point TALENT plays a role.

Who has fought the more talents fighters? Floyd has had every opportunity to fight anyone he wanted to but has he taken advantage??? SURE He's taken advantage of fighting the Sharmba Mitchell's, Arturo Gatti's, and the Carlos Baldomir's of 147 and the surrounding divisions

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ouch! That hurts for Mayweather fans! Miguel Cotto is the man at 147! He fights anyone they put in front of him.

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But Cotto has proven in the past that he's willing to fight big physical welters that other fighters avoid like Clottey, Margarito and Mosley. Floyd hasn't done the same.

Arum says a lot of idiotic things, but I don't see a problem with this one comment.

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Disagree with this Baldomir though trash was big; ODH was bigger at 154 than most of Cotto's opponents have been; Gatti although poor was bigger than Floyd! other than Marquez and Hatton Floyd has been smaller than most of his opponents.

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Besides height and reach how was Hatton smaller than Mayweather? He was heavier, stronger and started at a much higher weight class, not to mention that in his first fight at WW he weighed in at 160.

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Height and reach, first and foremost. Second, Hatton was a career 140 man. Mayweather started at a lighter weight but was fighting at 147 when he fought Hatton. Honestly, I've never heard anyone argue that Hatton was a bigger man than Mayweather. It sure didn't look that way in the ring. And if that is the case, he must have been a goliath compared with Pacquiao.

Does Bob Arum think we are that stupid? yes!

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Disagree with this Baldomir though trash was big; ODH was bigger at 154 than most of Cotto's opponents have been; Gatti although poor was bigger than Floyd! other than Marquez and Hatton Floyd has been smaller than most of his opponents.

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Besides height and reach how was Hatton smaller than Mayweather? He was heavier, stronger and started at a much higher weight class, not to mention that in his first fight at WW he weighed in at 160.

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Height and reach, first and foremost. Second, Hatton was a career 140 man. Mayweather started at a lighter weight but was fighting at 147 when he fought Hatton. Honestly, I've never heard anyone argue that Hatton was a bigger man than Mayweather. It sure didn't look that way in the ring. And if that is the case, he must have been a goliath compared with Pacquiao.

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Paul Williams has a significant reach & height advantage over Mike Tyson, who's the bigger man? I thought Hatton did look bigger than Mayweather in the ring, he certainly looked more muscled, the difference with the Pac fight was Hatton looked far more skeletal than usual on the scales the previous night & didn't look to have re-hydrated as well as he had after the PBF weigh-in.

Arum is playing mind games with Mayweather and some of it is bitter payback and some if it is to negotiate better terms so that he can profit from the Pac v Mayweather fight.