Re: Boxing Perspective: Is Floyd Mayweather Jr Looking To Become Another Cliche?
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Kel
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LEGION
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I dont know Kel it would be so huge. Surley its tempting to him it would seal up everything for ever, I think Floyd would study and out smart Manny and catch him comming in and screw with his timing. I dont think he fears Manny, if he does, then why Marquez ?
For what it's worth I agree. I see Floyd handling Pacman pretty decisively. I never thought Floyd feared anyone; maybe if I had to pick one I'd say Williams, but Paul was high risk low payout because he had no marketability behind him at the time and maybe still doesn't shameful as that is.
But there is no one else he fears{if he even did in some way at all with Williams} and easy work with all of them except Paul, maybe. Some people say he left due to fear; I think it's more due to disdain of the comp. and getting bored; though I know I'm stretching my opinion a bit far on that one.
Well, I think Cotto Floyd or Mosley Floyd would make more than a Marquez fight and add much more to his resume. The thing is, Cotto and Mosley are more dangerous than an old blown up lightweight.
His fear....is of losing most probably, not of dangerous fighters. His ego could not take a defeat because all his talk and self hype is based around being undefeated. Just like Naz.
Agreed about adding to his resume; most definately. No matter why he left, personally I think he should have fought some of those guys. Though I think he schools Cotto he could conceivably have problems with Mosley; Margarito he would have made look like Kid Thunder, Clottey similar t the Baldomir fight, etc. Mosley I think he more wanted to snub him than fight him because of not getting that fight years ago when he was calling out Shane.
As far as fear of losing not fear of dangerous opponents; I'm not sure I follow you bro'. Don't they go hand in hand? Like I said personally I don't think he feared them as dangerous opponents and certainly not afraid he might somehow pull up short with them; and if for arguments sake he was afraid of Williams the $$$ wouldn't have been there to make sure the risk was worth it; would it?? I'm confusing myself now for some reason and fear I'm chasing my tail:bucktooth:
Re: Boxing Perspective: Is Floyd Mayweather Jr Looking To Become Another Cliche?
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JT Rock
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Kel
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LEGION
For what it's worth I agree. I see Floyd handling Pacman pretty decisively. I never thought Floyd feared anyone; maybe if I had to pick one I'd say Williams, but Paul was high risk low payout because he had no marketability behind him at the time and maybe still doesn't shameful as that is.
But there is no one else he fears{if he even did in some way at all with Williams} and easy work with all of them except Paul, maybe. Some people say he left due to fear; I think it's more due to disdain of the comp. and getting bored; though I know I'm stretching my opinion a bit far on that one.
Well, I think Cotto Floyd or Mosley Floyd would make more than a Marquez fight and add much more to his resume. The thing is, Cotto and Mosley are more dangerous than an old blown up lightweight.
His fear....is of losing most probably, not of dangerous fighters. His ego could not take a defeat because all his talk and self hype is based around being undefeated. Just like Naz.
Different engine in this car all together brother. Naz was a SUPER mouthy gifted athlete who couldnt hold a candle to Floyds resume. Naz was a flawed fighter who got exposed by a great tactician.
Floyd is a superior fighter compared to Naz. Floyd has never showed a chink in his armor or any vulnerability. Whole different mindset goes with that
Yeah but........ok bad example with Naz I may have been breathing in someones crack fumes there;D
Thing is, I would still say a loss would do his ego no good and he would struggle to come back from one. Cotto or Shane would have been a bigger fight though and a great win over a top Welter is something he needs IMO
Re: Boxing Perspective: Is Floyd Mayweather Jr Looking To Become Another Cliche?
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LEGION
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Kel
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LEGION
For what it's worth I agree. I see Floyd handling Pacman pretty decisively. I never thought Floyd feared anyone; maybe if I had to pick one I'd say Williams, but Paul was high risk low payout because he had no marketability behind him at the time and maybe still doesn't shameful as that is.
But there is no one else he fears{if he even did in some way at all with Williams} and easy work with all of them except Paul, maybe. Some people say he left due to fear; I think it's more due to disdain of the comp. and getting bored; though I know I'm stretching my opinion a bit far on that one.
Well, I think Cotto Floyd or Mosley Floyd would make more than a Marquez fight and add much more to his resume. The thing is, Cotto and Mosley are more dangerous than an old blown up lightweight.
His fear....is of losing most probably, not of dangerous fighters. His ego could not take a defeat because all his talk and self hype is based around being undefeated. Just like Naz.
Agreed about adding to his resume; most definately. No matter why he left, personally I think he should have fought some of those guys. Though I think he schools Cotto he could conceivably have problems with Mosley; Margarito he would have made look like Kid Thunder, Clottey similar t the Baldomir fight, etc. Mosley I think he more wanted to snub him than fight him because of not getting that fight years ago when he was calling out Shane.
As far as fear of losing not fear of dangerous opponents; I'm not sure I follow you bro'. Don't they go hand in hand? Like I said personally I don't think he feared them as dangerous opponents and certainly not afraid he might somehow pull up short with them; and if for arguments sake he was afraid of Williams the $$$ wouldn't have been there to make sure the risk was worth it; would it?? I'm confusing myself now for some reason and fear I'm chasing my tail:bucktooth:
Thing is with Floyd LEGION, he missed out big time not fighting top guys because hardly any guys he has fought lately have gone on to do great things, so his stock never really goes up. If he beat Margarito and Cotto (before Margarito beat Cotto) that would have shut up annoying cunts like me who say he never fought a top Welter.
Re: Boxing Perspective: Is Floyd Mayweather Jr Looking To Become Another Cliche?
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Kel
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LEGION
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Kel
Well, I think Cotto Floyd or Mosley Floyd would make more than a Marquez fight and add much more to his resume. The thing is, Cotto and Mosley are more dangerous than an old blown up lightweight.
His fear....is of losing most probably, not of dangerous fighters. His ego could not take a defeat because all his talk and self hype is based around being undefeated. Just like Naz.
Agreed about adding to his resume; most definately. No matter why he left, personally I think he should have fought some of those guys. Though I think he schools Cotto he could conceivably have problems with Mosley; Margarito he would have made look like Kid Thunder, Clottey similar t the Baldomir fight, etc. Mosley I think he more wanted to snub him than fight him because of not getting that fight years ago when he was calling out Shane.
As far as fear of losing not fear of dangerous opponents; I'm not sure I follow you bro'. Don't they go hand in hand? Like I said personally I don't think he feared them as dangerous opponents and certainly not afraid he might somehow pull up short with them; and if for arguments sake he was afraid of Williams the $$$ wouldn't have been there to make sure the risk was worth it; would it?? I'm confusing myself now for some reason and fear I'm chasing my tail:bucktooth:
Thing is with Floyd LEGION, he missed out big time not fighting top guys because hardly any guys he has fought lately have gone on to do great things, so his stock never really goes up. If he beat Margarito and Cotto (before Margarito beat Cotto) that would have shut up annoying cunts like me who say he never fought a top Welter.
Yeah I understand, I don't know why I got confused; it happens alot with me;D I said earlier I thought he should have fought them; and even the general consensus telling us he beats all of them easily doesn't excuse him from not fighting them. Maybe he really was too wrapped up in his unblemished record and didn't want to risk it. I know he said somewhere; the ESPN thing with Kenny I think: "why fight Mosley who lost to Cotto who lost to Margarito who lost to Mosley" blah blah. But he could have fought them before those fights happened.
But as I said; I think he looks down on some of these guys and just waits till they all beat each other up and then picks and chooses to see who's "worthy". Or maybe it is fear. It's all speculation anyways. Anyways I'm rambling now to no good end; I tell myself not to do it but I always do:bucktooth:
Re: Boxing Perspective: Is Floyd Mayweather Jr Looking To Become Another Cliche?
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JT Rock
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I dont know Kel it would be so huge. Surley its tempting to him it would seal up everything for ever, I think Floyd would study and out smart Manny and catch him comming in and screw with his timing. I dont think he fears Manny, if he does, then why Marquez ?
Afraid of Manny? No but as for the studying him IMO Roach will be the counter to that, he knows Floyd will be paying close attention to him and will hacve Manny coming in the ring with a gameplan that will surprise everyone...Not saying who will win but it will be no walk over......
I will have something next week on how I think it will play out if it happens
You can call me crazy and a fanboy, but as much as Roach is smart SO IS FLOYD, HIS UNCLE AND HIS FATHER. We all know what Floyd is capable and I dont see him getting on a bike and running, Floyd has the offense, defense footwork and stamina to put it on Mannny. Im not saying its going to be a walk over but I see him cutting up Manny and comprehensively beating him.
they say timing negates speed, what about when 1 fighter is a fast superb counterpuncher with spot on anticipation and timing?
Im with you on this. Floyds timing is precise both in and out of the ring regarding competition placment / counter timing. Also which angles, which speed, which fight, when and how as well as the controversial: which opposition, only when its best for him ploy too. Hope he is aiming high and in threes.
Re: Boxing Perspective: Is Floyd Mayweather Jr Looking To Become Another Cliche?
nice article! just want to share my thoughts. mayweather fight with marquez is his way of readying his self to a fight with pacman, agree with all the points you've said on this article. he has this big ego, doesnt believe what happen after he semi-retired, that one manny pacquiao emerges from somewhere and have overtaken his accomplishments by the man from my country. he is envy of the pacman, thinking he will be missed by boxing, but everything backfires on him. no doubt,to prove his point, he must do it against the pacman, which i think will put him the same where hatton is in now. retiring from the sport permanently.
