Boxing Perspective: Is Floyd Mayweather Jr Looking To Become Another Cliche?

[LEGION]

Cracking article Daxx!

I personally don't think Floyd wants anything to do with Pac and never will unless Cotto beats him or something. He knows when to catch fighters at the right time - when they are still a major draw but past their best

I dont know Kel it would be so huge. Surley its tempting to him it would seal up everything for ever, I think Floyd would study and out smart Manny and catch him comming in and screw with his timing. I dont think he fears Manny, if he does, then why Marquez ?

For what it's worth I agree. I see Floyd handling Pacman pretty decisively. I never thought Floyd feared anyone; maybe if I had to pick one I'd say Williams, but Paul was high risk low payout because he had no marketability behind him at the time and maybe still doesn't shameful as that is.

But there is no one else he fears{if he even did in some way at all with Williams} and easy work with all of them except Paul, maybe. Some people say he left due to fear; I think it's more due to disdain of the comp. and getting bored; though I know I'm stretching my opinion a bit far on that one.

[Spicoli]

Awesome read Daxx.Going to hold off on the Manny/Mayweather hoopla....a few bridges to cross and something tells me the negotiations could be as entertaining as the fight

I just cannot escape the feeling that Floyd has .....in a way let momentum and it pass him by.Can't pin point it but he may have miscalculated.Do believe that a big factor in his coming back is Mannys new found p4p pedestal and the glaring spotlight.And the all mighty dollar goes without saying

[Kel]

Cracking article Daxx!

I personally don't think Floyd wants anything to do with Pac and never will unless Cotto beats him or something. He knows when to catch fighters at the right time - when they are still a major draw but past their best

I dont know Kel it would be so huge. Surley its tempting to him it would seal up everything for ever, I think Floyd would study and out smart Manny and catch him comming in and screw with his timing. I dont think he fears Manny, if he does, then why Marquez ?

For what it's worth I agree. I see Floyd handling Pacman pretty decisively. I never thought Floyd feared anyone; maybe if I had to pick one I'd say Williams, but Paul was high risk low payout because he had no marketability behind him at the time and maybe still doesn't shameful as that is.

But there is no one else he fears{if he even did in some way at all with Williams} and easy work with all of them except Paul, maybe. Some people say he left due to fear; I think it's more due to disdain of the comp. and getting bored; though I know I'm stretching my opinion a bit far on that one.

Well, I think Cotto Floyd or Mosley Floyd would make more than a Marquez fight and add much more to his resume. The thing is, Cotto and Mosley are more dangerous than an old blown up lightweight.

His fear....is of losing most probably, not of dangerous fighters. His ego could not take a defeat because all his talk and self hype is based around being undefeated. Just like Naz.

[JT Rock]

I dont know Kel it would be so huge. Surley its tempting to him it would seal up everything for ever, I think Floyd would study and out smart Manny and catch him comming in and screw with his timing. I dont think he fears Manny, if he does, then why Marquez ?

For what it's worth I agree. I see Floyd handling Pacman pretty decisively. I never thought Floyd feared anyone; maybe if I had to pick one I'd say Williams, but Paul was high risk low payout because he had no marketability behind him at the time and maybe still doesn't shameful as that is.

But there is no one else he fears{if he even did in some way at all with Williams} and easy work with all of them except Paul, maybe. Some people say he left due to fear; I think it's more due to disdain of the comp. and getting bored; though I know I'm stretching my opinion a bit far on that one.

Well, I think Cotto Floyd or Mosley Floyd would make more than a Marquez fight and add much more to his resume. The thing is, Cotto and Mosley are more dangerous than an old blown up lightweight.

His fear....is of losing most probably, not of dangerous fighters. His ego could not take a defeat because all his talk and self hype is based around being undefeated. Just like Naz.

Different engine in this car all together brother. Naz was a SUPER mouthy gifted athlete who couldnt hold a candle to Floyds resume. Naz was a flawed fighter who got exposed by a great tactician.

Floyd is a superior fighter compared to Naz. Floyd has never showed a chink in his armor or any vulnerability. Whole different mindset goes with that

[Kel]

For what it's worth I agree. I see Floyd handling Pacman pretty decisively. I never thought Floyd feared anyone; maybe if I had to pick one I'd say Williams, but Paul was high risk low payout because he had no marketability behind him at the time and maybe still doesn't shameful as that is.

But there is no one else he fears{if he even did in some way at all with Williams} and easy work with all of them except Paul, maybe. Some people say he left due to fear; I think it's more due to disdain of the comp. and getting bored; though I know I'm stretching my opinion a bit far on that one.

Well, I think Cotto Floyd or Mosley Floyd would make more than a Marquez fight and add much more to his resume. The thing is, Cotto and Mosley are more dangerous than an old blown up lightweight.

His fear....is of losing most probably, not of dangerous fighters. His ego could not take a defeat because all his talk and self hype is based around being undefeated. Just like Naz.

Different engine in this car all together brother. Naz was a SUPER mouthy gifted athlete who couldnt hold a candle to Floyds resume. Naz was a flawed fighter who got exposed by a great tactician.

Floyd is a superior fighter compared to Naz. Floyd has never showed a chink in his armor or any vulnerability. Whole different mindset goes with that

Yeah but........ok bad example with Naz I may have been breathing in someones crack fumes there

Thing is, I would still say a loss would do his ego no good and he would struggle to come back from one. Cotto or Shane would have been a bigger fight though and a great win over a top Welter is something he needs IMO

[LEGION]

I dont know Kel it would be so huge. Surley its tempting to him it would seal up everything for ever, I think Floyd would study and out smart Manny and catch him comming in and screw with his timing. I dont think he fears Manny, if he does, then why Marquez ?

For what it's worth I agree. I see Floyd handling Pacman pretty decisively. I never thought Floyd feared anyone; maybe if I had to pick one I'd say Williams, but Paul was high risk low payout because he had no marketability behind him at the time and maybe still doesn't shameful as that is.

But there is no one else he fears{if he even did in some way at all with Williams} and easy work with all of them except Paul, maybe. Some people say he left due to fear; I think it's more due to disdain of the comp. and getting bored; though I know I'm stretching my opinion a bit far on that one.

Well, I think Cotto Floyd or Mosley Floyd would make more than a Marquez fight and add much more to his resume. The thing is, Cotto and Mosley are more dangerous than an old blown up lightweight.

His fear....is of losing most probably, not of dangerous fighters. His ego could not take a defeat because all his talk and self hype is based around being undefeated. Just like Naz.

Agreed about adding to his resume; most definately. No matter why he left, personally I think he should have fought some of those guys. Though I think he schools Cotto he could conceivably have problems with Mosley; Margarito he would have made look like Kid Thunder, Clottey similar t the Baldomir fight, etc. Mosley I think he more wanted to snub him than fight him because of not getting that fight years ago when he was calling out Shane.

As far as fear of losing not fear of dangerous opponents; I'm not sure I follow you bro'. Don't they go hand in hand? Like I said personally I don't think he feared them as dangerous opponents and certainly not afraid he might somehow pull up short with them; and if for arguments sake he was afraid of Williams the $$$ wouldn't have been there to make sure the risk was worth it; would it?? I'm confusing myself now for some reason and fear I'm chasing my tail

[Kel]

For what it's worth I agree. I see Floyd handling Pacman pretty decisively. I never thought Floyd feared anyone; maybe if I had to pick one I'd say Williams, but Paul was high risk low payout because he had no marketability behind him at the time and maybe still doesn't shameful as that is.

But there is no one else he fears{if he even did in some way at all with Williams} and easy work with all of them except Paul, maybe. Some people say he left due to fear; I think it's more due to disdain of the comp. and getting bored; though I know I'm stretching my opinion a bit far on that one.

Well, I think Cotto Floyd or Mosley Floyd would make more than a Marquez fight and add much more to his resume. The thing is, Cotto and Mosley are more dangerous than an old blown up lightweight.

His fear....is of losing most probably, not of dangerous fighters. His ego could not take a defeat because all his talk and self hype is based around being undefeated. Just like Naz.

Agreed about adding to his resume; most definately. No matter why he left, personally I think he should have fought some of those guys. Though I think he schools Cotto he could conceivably have problems with Mosley; Margarito he would have made look like Kid Thunder, Clottey similar t the Baldomir fight, etc. Mosley I think he more wanted to snub him than fight him because of not getting that fight years ago when he was calling out Shane.

As far as fear of losing not fear of dangerous opponents; I'm not sure I follow you bro'. Don't they go hand in hand? Like I said personally I don't think he feared them as dangerous opponents and certainly not afraid he might somehow pull up short with them; and if for arguments sake he was afraid of Williams the $$$ wouldn't have been there to make sure the risk was worth it; would it?? I'm confusing myself now for some reason and fear I'm chasing my tail

Thing is with Floyd LEGION, he missed out big time not fighting top guys because hardly any guys he has fought lately have gone on to do great things, so his stock never really goes up. If he beat Margarito and Cotto (before Margarito beat Cotto) that would have shut up annoying cunts like me who say he never fought a top Welter.

[LEGION]

Well, I think Cotto Floyd or Mosley Floyd would make more than a Marquez fight and add much more to his resume. The thing is, Cotto and Mosley are more dangerous than an old blown up lightweight.

His fear....is of losing most probably, not of dangerous fighters. His ego could not take a defeat because all his talk and self hype is based around being undefeated. Just like Naz.

Agreed about adding to his resume; most definately. No matter why he left, personally I think he should have fought some of those guys. Though I think he schools Cotto he could conceivably have problems with Mosley; Margarito he would have made look like Kid Thunder, Clottey similar t the Baldomir fight, etc. Mosley I think he more wanted to snub him than fight him because of not getting that fight years ago when he was calling out Shane.

As far as fear of losing not fear of dangerous opponents; I'm not sure I follow you bro'. Don't they go hand in hand? Like I said personally I don't think he feared them as dangerous opponents and certainly not afraid he might somehow pull up short with them; and if for arguments sake he was afraid of Williams the $$$ wouldn't have been there to make sure the risk was worth it; would it?? I'm confusing myself now for some reason and fear I'm chasing my tail

Thing is with Floyd LEGION, he missed out big time not fighting top guys because hardly any guys he has fought lately have gone on to do great things, so his stock never really goes up. If he beat Margarito and Cotto (before Margarito beat Cotto) that would have shut up annoying cunts like me who say he never fought a top Welter.

Yeah I understand, I don't know why I got confused; it happens alot with me I said earlier I thought he should have fought them; and even the general consensus telling us he beats all of them easily doesn't excuse him from not fighting them. Maybe he really was too wrapped up in his unblemished record and didn't want to risk it. I know he said somewhere; the ESPN thing with Kenny I think: "why fight Mosley who lost to Cotto who lost to Margarito who lost to Mosley" blah blah. But he could have fought them before those fights happened.

But as I said; I think he looks down on some of these guys and just waits till they all beat each other up and then picks and chooses to see who's "worthy". Or maybe it is fear. It's all speculation anyways. Anyways I'm rambling now to no good end; I tell myself not to do it but I always do