Re: Bilbo's moral dilemmas, what would YOU do if you were a friend of OJ?
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CFH
1). My answer would be somewhere between A and B. I'd tell him I was disappointed and urge him to stop/tell his girlfriend or whatever, but while my opinion of his trustworthiness would suffer I doubt I would end a friendship over it.
Now, if I was friends with the girl too it would be a different story (assuming my level of friendship with the girl was equal to or above that of my friendship with him). I'd tell him to stop/tell her or I would tell her what was going on.
Go ahead and call me a pussy, I don't mind.
2). While I'd like to choose B, the crazy fucker has already killed once and if I threaten to turn him in I'm likely to be the next person to die suspiciously.
I'd probably choose A and place a (very) anonymous tip that could in no way be traced back to me. Though, like Legion said, it's very dependent upon the exact situation.
The cheating thing is a weird thing.
Back in 98' I found out, through recording my girlfriends phone calls, that she was getting her tank refilled by 3 different guys. I had known something might be going on but the naivety at that time in me was comical to say the least.
My friend who lived on my street knew what was going on just because, well, he wasn't naive; alot younger but oh so much wiser in that area; plus he saw things. Finding out for myself, though he tried to hint at it several times through little things he said for about a year, was the best thing for me, as I grew up in many ways. You won't pull that sh#t on me anymore; so basically I'm saying I am glad I wasn't told, did me better in the long run working it out for myself. I'm just glad I hadn't fukked her for quite a while. And she better be glad the HIV tests came back negative or we would have been having one last, intimate moment together snacking on a 9mm.
Re: Bilbo's moral dilemmas, what would YOU do if you were a friend of OJ?
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Bilbo
Ok just for a fun and lively discussion I thought we could have a nice moral debate on really tough issues.
Ok, your best friend is cheating on his girlfriend or wife.
Do you,
A) Do nothing, it's your mate, he can do what he wants, your loyalties lie with him not her.
B) Don't tell her but stress to him you are really disappointed in him and maybe even end your friendship with him over it, but you would draw the line at telling her
C) Be glad his focus is elswhere so he won't realise you've been banging his girl!
D) Warn him to stop, and if he doesn't tell his partner, Cheating is wrong no matter who does it.
E) Tell her, not because you have an upright conscience, but because you know she will be devastated and desperate for payback, and you just 'happen' to 'be there'.
Ok my own choice here is I would do absolutely nothing, its none of my business. This isn't a sexist thing though, if it was one of my girl mates and she was screwing around my loyalties would be with my girl friend. If they were BOTH really good friends of mine, I have to be honest, I'd side with the guy, sorry but that's the way I am, bro's before hoe's and all that.
Ok question 2.
The person you are closest to in the world has a lousy, miserable wench for a wife or husband who he hates.
Anyway he/she dies suspiciously and this person breaks down and confesses to you that they did it, because they were pushed over the edge. They beg you not to tell anyone.
Do you.
A) Call the police and get them arrested. They are a murderer and you have no time for scum like that.
B) Be sympathetic but tell them they MUST turn him themselves in and if not you will eventually tell the police, although you will give them some time to attempt to get away they chooses to do a runner. You will remain their friend/son/daughter/mum/dad though, and keep in contact with them in prison and help them get back on his feet if/when he finally gets out.
C) Keep your mouth shut, you're loyalties lie with this one person more than anyone else in the world. Although you won't proactively help cover their crime or testify that they were with you, you will if asked by the police tell them they were an excellent character and you would not suspect them being capable for a minute. Then if they got off, you'd both promise to bury this horrible secret for ever.
D) Tell him, 'Don't worry we are in this together, I will do my utmost to keep you out of jail and I'll do anything I can to save you. Then you would proactively try and help them get rid of evidence, provide them with an alibi etc.
Ok this one was REAL tough for me. If it was a mate, even my best one I'd lean towards option 2, because no way could I live with the guilt of knowing someone killed somebody. I couldn't have it on my conscience and I'd eventually crack and have to tell somebody.
BUT if it was my mum or my brother, shit I'd be right there with them. I really don't know what I would do. I think I would urge them to turn themselves in, because as you know I believe in God and so for their ultimate safety they had best confess it, but if for example it was in America and they faced the electric chair if found guilty, I would help them as much as possible, give them false alibi's and if all else failed try and smuggle them out of the country in the boot of my car and on a dinghy to France!
Ok so that's my answers what about you guys, where do we all sit on the moral condundrum.
Ps. I already know VD's answers will be A and D :)
All of that a,b,c, shit don't mean a thing as the thread title maintains proposes the condition of being OJ's friend, that is the qualifier for all possible outcomes. He's a wife beater, liar and murderer so I wouldn't be his friend.
Re: Bilbo's moral dilemmas, what would YOU do if you were a friend of OJ?
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Howlin Mad Missy
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Bilbo
Ok just for a fun and lively discussion I thought we could have a nice moral debate on really tough issues.
Ok, your best friend is cheating on his girlfriend or wife.
Do you,
A) Do nothing, it's your mate, he can do what he wants, your loyalties lie with him not her.
B) Don't tell her but stress to him you are really disappointed in him and maybe even end your friendship with him over it, but you would draw the line at telling her
C) Be glad his focus is elswhere so he won't realise you've been banging his girl!
D) Warn him to stop, and if he doesn't tell his partner, Cheating is wrong no matter who does it.
E) Tell her, not because you have an upright conscience, but because you know she will be devastated and desperate for payback, and you just 'happen' to 'be there'.
Ok my own choice here is I would do absolutely nothing, its none of my business. This isn't a sexist thing though, if it was one of my girl mates and she was screwing around my loyalties would be with my girl friend. If they were BOTH really good friends of mine, I have to be honest, I'd side with the guy, sorry but that's the way I am, bro's before hoe's and all that.
Ok question 2.
The person you are closest to in the world has a lousy, miserable wench for a wife or husband who he hates.
Anyway he/she dies suspiciously and this person breaks down and confesses to you that they did it, because they were pushed over the edge. They beg you not to tell anyone.
Do you.
A) Call the police and get them arrested. They are a murderer and you have no time for scum like that.
B) Be sympathetic but tell them they MUST turn him themselves in and if not you will eventually tell the police, although you will give them some time to attempt to get away they chooses to do a runner. You will remain their friend/son/daughter/mum/dad though, and keep in contact with them in prison and help them get back on his feet if/when he finally gets out.
C) Keep your mouth shut, you're loyalties lie with this one person more than anyone else in the world. Although you won't proactively help cover their crime or testify that they were with you, you will if asked by the police tell them they were an excellent character and you would not suspect them being capable for a minute. Then if they got off, you'd both promise to bury this horrible secret for ever.
D) Tell him, 'Don't worry we are in this together, I will do my utmost to keep you out of jail and I'll do anything I can to save you. Then you would proactively try and help them get rid of evidence, provide them with an alibi etc.
Ok this one was REAL tough for me. If it was a mate, even my best one I'd lean towards option 2, because no way could I live with the guilt of knowing someone killed somebody. I couldn't have it on my conscience and I'd eventually crack and have to tell somebody.
BUT if it was my mum or my brother, shit I'd be right there with them. I really don't know what I would do. I think I would urge them to turn themselves in, because as you know I believe in God and so for their ultimate safety they had best confess it, but if for example it was in America and they faced the electric chair if found guilty, I would help them as much as possible, give them false alibi's and if all else failed try and smuggle them out of the country in the boot of my car and on a dinghy to France!
Ok so that's my answers what about you guys, where do we all sit on the moral condundrum.
Ps. I already know VD's answers will be A and D :)
All of that a,b,c, shit don't mean a thing as the thread title maintains proposes the condition of being OJ's friend, that is the qualifier for all possible outcomes. He's a wife beater, liar and murderer so I wouldn't be his friend.
Yes well if you actually read the thread you would have seen I didn't mean OJ exactly, I meant what would you do if the person you cared about most in the whole world killed their spouse for being abusive or a cheat.
It's not OJ, it's not even you're best mate, its the closest person to you on earth, your mother, your son or daughter even.
So come on tell, what would you do?
Re: Bilbo's moral dilemmas, what would YOU do if you were a friend of OJ?
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Bilbo
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Originally Posted by
Howlin Mad Missy
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
Ok just for a fun and lively discussion I thought we could have a nice moral debate on really tough issues.
Ok, your best friend is cheating on his girlfriend or wife.
Do you,
A) Do nothing, it's your mate, he can do what he wants, your loyalties lie with him not her.
B) Don't tell her but stress to him you are really disappointed in him and maybe even end your friendship with him over it, but you would draw the line at telling her
C) Be glad his focus is elswhere so he won't realise you've been banging his girl!
D) Warn him to stop, and if he doesn't tell his partner, Cheating is wrong no matter who does it.
E) Tell her, not because you have an upright conscience, but because you know she will be devastated and desperate for payback, and you just 'happen' to 'be there'.
Ok my own choice here is I would do absolutely nothing, its none of my business. This isn't a sexist thing though, if it was one of my girl mates and she was screwing around my loyalties would be with my girl friend. If they were BOTH really good friends of mine, I have to be honest, I'd side with the guy, sorry but that's the way I am, bro's before hoe's and all that.
Ok question 2.
The person you are closest to in the world has a lousy, miserable wench for a wife or husband who he hates.
Anyway he/she dies suspiciously and this person breaks down and confesses to you that they did it, because they were pushed over the edge. They beg you not to tell anyone.
Do you.
A) Call the police and get them arrested. They are a murderer and you have no time for scum like that.
B) Be sympathetic but tell them they MUST turn him themselves in and if not you will eventually tell the police, although you will give them some time to attempt to get away they chooses to do a runner. You will remain their friend/son/daughter/mum/dad though, and keep in contact with them in prison and help them get back on his feet if/when he finally gets out.
C) Keep your mouth shut, you're loyalties lie with this one person more than anyone else in the world. Although you won't proactively help cover their crime or testify that they were with you, you will if asked by the police tell them they were an excellent character and you would not suspect them being capable for a minute. Then if they got off, you'd both promise to bury this horrible secret for ever.
D) Tell him, 'Don't worry we are in this together, I will do my utmost to keep you out of jail and I'll do anything I can to save you. Then you would proactively try and help them get rid of evidence, provide them with an alibi etc.
Ok this one was REAL tough for me. If it was a mate, even my best one I'd lean towards option 2, because no way could I live with the guilt of knowing someone killed somebody. I couldn't have it on my conscience and I'd eventually crack and have to tell somebody.
BUT if it was my mum or my brother, shit I'd be right there with them. I really don't know what I would do. I think I would urge them to turn themselves in, because as you know I believe in God and so for their ultimate safety they had best confess it, but if for example it was in America and they faced the electric chair if found guilty, I would help them as much as possible, give them false alibi's and if all else failed try and smuggle them out of the country in the boot of my car and on a dinghy to France!
Ok so that's my answers what about you guys, where do we all sit on the moral condundrum.
Ps. I already know VD's answers will be A and D :)
All of that a,b,c, shit don't mean a thing as the thread title maintains proposes the condition of being OJ's friend, that is the qualifier for all possible outcomes. He's a wife beater, liar and murderer so I wouldn't be his friend.
Yes well if you actually read the thread you would have seen I didn't mean OJ exactly, I meant what would you do if the person you cared about most in the whole world killed their spouse for being abusive or a cheat.
It's not OJ, it's not even you're best mate, its the closest person to you on earth, your mother, your son or daughter even.
So come on tell, what would you do?
can't go changing the rules of the game after it's started. You stated OJ in title so that's how I replied.
I've seen first hand where everyman and his dog has known someone has been cheating - the spouse is always last to know. Not only have they been lied to by their partner their friends have witheld info, they feel betrayed over again. How people can call themselves a friend and NOT tell you I don't know.
So for Q1 - D.
Q2. Depends - hopefully if they were a friend I would have been able to steer them away from said shithouse. If they've been abused I'd consider it payback. If it's less probably advise them to B, because they've told you you have to do something with that, I'm not going to prison for someone elses mistake.
Re: Bilbo's moral dilemmas, what would YOU do if you were a friend of OJ?
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Howlin Mad Missy
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Originally Posted by
Bilbo
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Originally Posted by
Howlin Mad Missy
All of that a,b,c, shit don't mean a thing as the thread title maintains proposes the condition of being OJ's friend, that is the qualifier for all possible outcomes. He's a wife beater, liar and murderer so I wouldn't be his friend.
Yes well if you actually read the thread you would have seen I didn't mean OJ exactly, I meant what would you do if the person you cared about most in the whole world killed their spouse for being abusive or a cheat.
It's not OJ, it's not even you're best mate, its the closest person to you on earth, your mother, your son or daughter even.
So come on tell, what would you do?
can't go changing the rules of the game after it's started. You stated OJ in title so that's how I replied.
I've seen first hand where everyman and his dog has known someone has been cheating - the spouse is always last to know. Not only have they been lied to by their partner their friends have witheld info, they feel betrayed over again. How people can call themselves a friend and NOT tell you I don't know.
So for Q1 - D.
Q2. Depends - hopefully if they were a friend I would have been able to steer them away from said shithouse. If they've been abused I'd consider it payback. If it's less probably advise them to B, because they've told you you have to do something with that, I'm not going to prison for someone elses mistake.
Glad you finally decided to take part Missy, how about the overwhelming evidence that shows that dinosaurs once lived with man? You starting to come around to my way of thinking finally now girl eh? :)
Re: Bilbo's moral dilemmas, what would YOU do if you were a friend of OJ?
No I still think you're an idiot.
Re: Bilbo's moral dilemmas, what would YOU do if you were a friend of OJ?
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Howlin Mad Missy
No I still think you're an idiot.
:lol:
You've got to love it here at Saddo's! :p
Re: Bilbo's moral dilemmas, what would YOU do if you were a friend of OJ?
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Howlin Mad Missy
All of that a,b,c, shit don't mean a thing as the thread title maintains proposes the condition of being OJ's friend, that is the qualifier for all possible outcomes. He's a wife beater, liar and murderer so I wouldn't be his friend.
But, he was found innocent in a court of law Missy? So surely it's wrong to accuse him of murder? ;)
Re: Bilbo's moral dilemmas, what would YOU do if you were a friend of OJ?
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JazMerkin
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Howlin Mad Missy
All of that a,b,c, shit don't mean a thing as the thread title maintains proposes the condition of being OJ's friend, that is the qualifier for all possible outcomes. He's a wife beater, liar and murderer so I wouldn't be his friend.
But, he was found innocent in a court of law Missy? So surely it's wrong to accuse him of murder? ;)
I am using the civil courts ruling on that one;);)
Re: Bilbo's moral dilemmas, what would YOU do if you were a friend of OJ?
Wasn't this all about Orange Juice? :confused:
Re: Bilbo's moral dilemmas, what would YOU do if you were a friend of OJ?
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LEGION
Ok Bilbo....my girl just left for the airport and I'm in a sleepy haze while picking my nose and trying to process everything you wrote. Basically, who cares, kill all of them then: the kids, Gentle Geoffrey and the fruity pebbles in the parliament or whatever you guys call it.
Pedophilia issues aside, I'd kill Geoffrey just for living next to me as wacked out as that guy is. That dude is a fucking nightmare; I couldnt deal with him on a day to day basis without flipping out. And yes it's hard getting him out of your mind; I'll never get back to sleep. That little jig he does is the scariest thing I've ever seen. :jester-new:
"AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! AHHHHHH!!!!" ....."The Victims!!The Victims!!" and "Did You? ....Did You?"...I'd kill him just for repeating himself. And you just know PETA Australia would secretly be thanking you for saving that poor dog he drags around the street and probably masturbates on. I can only imagine what went on in his house over the years.
:rotflmao:
You need to get into politics. I'd vote for you.
Re: Bilbo's moral dilemmas, what would YOU do if you were a friend of OJ?
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Howlin Mad Missy
No I still think you're an idiot.
;D
Re: Bilbo's moral dilemmas, what would YOU do if you were a friend of OJ?
Question 1... I'd tell my mate he was a dick and needs to stop and if he really aint happy he needs to leave his wife... but would not tell his wife because hes my mate ;)
question 2... i have no idea about this one... one thing is for sure id brake all contact with the fucking loon before he got upset with me.
Re: Bilbo's moral dilemmas, what would YOU do if you were a friend of OJ?
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Saddo
Question 1... I'd tell my mate he was a dick and needs to stop and if he really aint happy he needs to leave his wife... but would not tell his wife because hes my mate ;)
question 2... i have no idea about this one... one thing is for sure id brake all contact with the fucking loon before he got upset with me.
You've been ignoring me?:mad:
Re: Bilbo's moral dilemmas, what would YOU do if you were a friend of OJ?
I would ask "What the fuck are you doing hanging out with Kato Kailen?"
