Re: Who to win super six?
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paddy448
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I got Jermaine Taylor shocking everybody and taking it all. His career is up against the wall. Anything but a great showing and he's done. And I think he knows it. He'll pull it out
totally agree, i think hes been seriously overlooked for this tournament,hes a better fighter than all of them imo, its just his stamina issues that have caught up to him in fights, the thing is there issues that can be addressed and worked on,thats why i give him a chance still
Thats where your wrong bro, he's in good shape. Its more to do with him being too tight, and wasting alot of nervous energy. And that has always been the problem, he even gassed in a very slow pace fight with Bernard Hopkins.
So what does that tell you ? he's got some mental issues. Which i don't think can be corrected. He even went back to his old coach Pat Burns. And if he can't correct it i don't see how anyone can.
BINGO!!!
Taylor is always nervous and tight in his fights and thus he gets exhausted come the late rounds.
He won't win this tournament.
I Andre Dirrell or Ward pullin it out.
Re: Who to win super six?
Well the bookmakers here in the UK have Froch favorite but I see Kessler being head and shoulders above the rest!
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ICB
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paddy448
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ICB
Thats where your wrong bro, he's in good shape. Its more to do with him being too tight, and wasting alot of nervous energy. And that has always been the problem, he even gassed in a very slow pace fight with Bernard Hopkins.
So what does that tell you ? he's got some mental issues. Which i don't think can be corrected. He even went back to his old coach Pat Burns. And if he can't correct it i don't see how anyone can.
u could be right icb, either way there is definately some issue there with the stamina, wether its mental nervous energy hes expending or hes not training to the best of his ability and gassing to easily, he is still a dam good fighter tho, only jermaine taylor nos what the problem is, hope he sorts it tho
He's got all the tools, except for maybe his defense at times. Is a bit leaky but he's got a fantastic jab, good speed, good power. And good skill sets but he's so frustrating especially if your a fan of his.
In reality he should of beat Kelly Pavlik x2, he's a class above him. And he for certain should of beaten Carl Froch, but his mental issues will always plague him IMO.
In reality he lost. You need more than skill to be a success. What advantages he had in skill were wiped out by the heart, bottle, stamina, toughness, power etc of those two.
Skills look more impressive, and are probably the most important factor after bottle, but that's only one part of the package.
Just because a fighter is faster, has more variety of punches and a better defence doesn't necessarily mean he will ever beat the lesser skilled man.. as history shows ;)
Re: Who to win super six?
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u could be right icb, either way there is definately some issue there with the stamina, wether its mental nervous energy hes expending or hes not training to the best of his ability and gassing to easily, he is still a dam good fighter tho, only jermaine taylor nos what the problem is, hope he sorts it tho
He's got all the tools, except for maybe his defense at times. Is a bit leaky but he's got a fantastic jab, good speed, good power. And good skill sets but he's so frustrating especially if your a fan of his.
In reality he should of beat Kelly Pavlik x2, he's a class above him. And he for certain should of beaten Carl Froch, but his mental issues will always plague him IMO.
In reality he lost. You need more than skill to be a success. What advantages he had in skill were wiped out by the heart, bottle, stamina, toughness, power etc of those two.
Skills look more impressive, and are probably the most important factor after bottle, but that's only one part of the package.
Just because a fighter is faster, has more variety of punches and a better defence doesn't necessarily mean he will ever beat the lesser skilled man.. as history shows ;)
Great points here. Rocky Marciano sprung to mind as soon as I read your post. He was not the fastest or most skillfull but he had a ton of power, heart and toughness and it showed!
Re: Who to win super six?
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Well the bookmakers here in the UK have Froch favorite but I see Kessler being head and shoulders above the rest!
Wow. The bookies have Froch as the favorite? I would put money against that any day. I doubt he wins. Kessler will always be a bad matchup for him.
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Well the bookmakers here in the UK have Froch favorite but I see Kessler being head and shoulders above the rest!
Wow. The bookies have Froch as the favorite? I would put money against that any day. I doubt he wins. Kessler will always be a bad matchup for him.
Actually it's only with one firm. Some others have Kessler favourite or Kessler/Froch joint favourite.. either way they look to be overestimating the chances of Froch.
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I like Kessler to win it all.
My dark horse is Dirrell.
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would be stunned if kessler doesnt win every fight he is in.
Froch-abraham to fight over 2nd...ward 4th, taylor 5th...dirrell will struggle to win a fight
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I actually think that Froch may surprise a lot of people and win the entire thing! Kessler is being overrated here as he is everywhere the guy is not proven and lost his only fight at elite level; Froch has fought at elite level twice (Pascal and Taylor) and is 2 and 0 with 2 ko's.
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I definately know who wins in this tourny.....boxing & the fans. That's all I really give a damn about.
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I definately know who wins in this tourny.....boxing & the fans. That's all I really give a damn about.
Exactly! Can't believe that this has been put together with all the alphabets agreeing aswell. Lets hope we can have this throughout all the divisions and help get boxing back on top.
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rjj tszyu
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LEGION
I definately know who wins in this tourny.....boxing & the fans. That's all I really give a damn about.
Exactly! Can't believe that this has been put together with all the alphabets agreeing aswell. Lets hope we can have this throughout all the divisions and help get boxing back on top.
I know, it's crazy. I'm still waiting for the curtain to fall somehow, but even though there are going to be injuries and other setbacks this is a tremendously good idea. This is a perfect type scenario imo for up and comers to get noticed and make a name.
I could even see EA Spots making video games off something like this. I'd buy it.
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ICB
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paddy448
totally agree, i think hes been seriously overlooked for this tournament,hes a better fighter than all of them imo, its just his stamina issues that have caught up to him in fights, the thing is there issues that can be addressed and worked on,thats why i give him a chance still
Thats where your wrong bro, he's in good shape. Its more to do with him being too tight, and wasting alot of nervous energy. And that has always been the problem, he even gassed in a very slow pace fight with Bernard Hopkins.
So what does that tell you ? he's got some mental issues. Which i don't think can be corrected. He even went back to his old coach Pat Burns. And if he can't correct it i don't see how anyone can.
BINGO!!!
Taylor is always nervous and tight in his fights and thus he gets exhausted come the late rounds.
He won't win this tournament.
I Andre Dirrell or Ward pullin it out.
If he stays focus, Dirrell will do well. I give him an outside chance. Ward? I give him no chance. I have my doubts he'll even finish the tournament. If any fighters pulls out, I think it'll be Ward
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ICB
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paddy448
u could be right icb, either way there is definately some issue there with the stamina, wether its mental nervous energy hes expending or hes not training to the best of his ability and gassing to easily, he is still a dam good fighter tho, only jermaine taylor nos what the problem is, hope he sorts it tho
He's got all the tools, except for maybe his defense at times. Is a bit leaky but he's got a fantastic jab, good speed, good power. And good skill sets but he's so frustrating especially if your a fan of his.
In reality he should of beat Kelly Pavlik x2, he's a class above him. And he for certain should of beaten Carl Froch, but his mental issues will always plague him IMO.
In reality he lost. You need more than skill to be a success. What advantages he had in skill were wiped out by the heart, bottle, stamina, toughness, power etc of those two.
Skills look more impressive, and are probably the most important factor after bottle, but that's only one part of the package.
Just because a fighter is faster, has more variety of punches and a better defence doesn't necessarily mean he will ever beat the lesser skilled man.. as history shows ;)
I still think Taylor won the second fight.
Re: Who to win super six?
Taylor-Abraham: I think a lot of people are going to be surprised how close (and GOOD) this fight is actually going to be! Abraham like Bernard Hopkins, gives away early rounds, that's not good vs Taylor who can build up a solid lead, and sure Froch closed the show but who knows maybe Abraham gets a little tuckered out and Taylor hangs on to win...it could happen, I think JT has a lot riding on him winning at least this fight.
Ward-Kessler: Mikkel gets overrated and underrated at the same time, but vs Andre Ward he is just too experienced and too powerful. Ward recently got dropped by Edison Miranda, and I can't name a top level guy Andre has hurt.
Dirrell-Froch: I see Carl Froch as a limited fighter with good power, I think Dirrell will surprise a lot of folks and stop him late.
