Who to win super six?

[paddy448]

I got Jermaine Taylor shocking everybody and taking it all. His career is up against the wall. Anything but a great showing and he's done. And I think he knows it. He'll pull it out

totally agree, i think hes been seriously overlooked for this tournament,hes a better fighter than all of them imo, its just his stamina issues that have caught up to him in fights, the thing is there issues that can be addressed and worked on,thats why i give him a chance still

Thats where your wrong bro, he's in good shape. Its more to do with him being too tight, and wasting alot of nervous energy. And that has always been the problem, he even gassed in a very slow pace fight with Bernard Hopkins.

So what does that tell you ? he's got some mental issues. Which i don't think can be corrected. He even went back to his old coach Pat Burns. And if he can't correct it i don't see how anyone can.

u could be right icb, either way there is definately some issue there with the stamina, wether its mental nervous energy hes expending or hes not training to the best of his ability and gassing to easily, he is still a dam good fighter tho, only jermaine taylor nos what the problem is, hope he sorts it tho

[Kev]

The best thing about this tournament is that you could ask six different people and get six different answers.

Try and imagine this tournament involving the best six in any other weight class and the result being so wide open as this.

It's insane, anyone can potentially win this and you can make great arguments for all of them.

As a testament to the sheer unpredictability of this event is that the guy seemingly with the least support on this forum, the great Frochster, is actually the bookies favourite to win the whole thing here in the UK.

And the rank outsider according to British bookies, Andre Dirrel, is quite heavily tipped to beat Froch in their first round match by a great many people on this site.

It's a great tournament and you really can't pick who is going to win any individual fight let alone the whole thing.

For the record, my first round picks are,

Taylor points
Froch KO
Kessler points

[paddy448]

The best thing about this tournament is that you could ask six different people and get six different answers.

Try and imagine this tournament involving the best six in any other weight class and the result being so wide open as this.

It's insane, anyone can potentially win this and you can make great arguments for all of them.

As a testament to the sheer unpredictability of this event is that the guy seemingly with the least support on this forum, the great Frochster, is actually the bookies favourite to win the whole thing here in the UK.

And the rank outsider according to British bookies, Andre Dirrel, is quite heavily tipped to beat Froch in their first round match by a great many people on this site.

It's a great tournament and you really can't pick who is going to win any individual fight let alone the whole thing.

For the record, my first round picks are,

Taylor points
Froch KO
Kessler points

all true mate, can u imagine if they did this for the welters, thats including pacman and mayweather, that would be something

[ICB]

totally agree, i think hes been seriously overlooked for this tournament,hes a better fighter than all of them imo, its just his stamina issues that have caught up to him in fights, the thing is there issues that can be addressed and worked on,thats why i give him a chance still

Thats where your wrong bro, he's in good shape. Its more to do with him being too tight, and wasting alot of nervous energy. And that has always been the problem, he even gassed in a very slow pace fight with Bernard Hopkins.

So what does that tell you ? he's got some mental issues. Which i don't think can be corrected. He even went back to his old coach Pat Burns. And if he can't correct it i don't see how anyone can.

u could be right icb, either way there is definately some issue there with the stamina, wether its mental nervous energy hes expending or hes not training to the best of his ability and gassing to easily, he is still a dam good fighter tho, only jermaine taylor nos what the problem is, hope he sorts it tho

He's got all the tools, except for maybe his defense at times. Is a bit leaky but he's got a fantastic jab, good speed, good power. And good skill sets but he's so frustrating especially if your a fan of his.

In reality he should of beat Kelly Pavlik x2, he's a class above him. And he for certain should of beaten Carl Froch, but his mental issues will always plague him IMO.

[paddy448]

Thats where your wrong bro, he's in good shape. Its more to do with him being too tight, and wasting alot of nervous energy. And that has always been the problem, he even gassed in a very slow pace fight with Bernard Hopkins.

So what does that tell you ? he's got some mental issues. Which i don't think can be corrected. He even went back to his old coach Pat Burns. And if he can't correct it i don't see how anyone can.

u could be right icb, either way there is definately some issue there with the stamina, wether its mental nervous energy hes expending or hes not training to the best of his ability and gassing to easily, he is still a dam good fighter tho, only jermaine taylor nos what the problem is, hope he sorts it tho

He's got all the tools, except for maybe his defense at times. Is a bit leaky but he's got a fantastic jab, good speed, good power. And good skill sets but he's so frustrating especially if your a fan of his.

In reality he should of beat Kelly Pavlik x2, he's a class above him. And he for certain should of beaten Carl Froch, but his mental issues will always plague him IMO.

yeah its a shame when u put it like that, sort of reminds me of zab judah in a way, gettin beat by people who had no business beating u, but ur stamina,mental makeup lets u down

[Fenster]

Thats where your wrong bro, he's in good shape. Its more to do with him being too tight, and wasting alot of nervous energy. And that has always been the problem, he even gassed in a very slow pace fight with Bernard Hopkins.

So what does that tell you ? he's got some mental issues. Which i don't think can be corrected. He even went back to his old coach Pat Burns. And if he can't correct it i don't see how anyone can.

u could be right icb, either way there is definately some issue there with the stamina, wether its mental nervous energy hes expending or hes not training to the best of his ability and gassing to easily, he is still a dam good fighter tho, only jermaine taylor nos what the problem is, hope he sorts it tho

He's got all the tools, except for maybe his defense at times. Is a bit leaky but he's got a fantastic jab, good speed, good power. And good skill sets but he's so frustrating especially if your a fan of his.

In reality he should of beat Kelly Pavlik x2, he's a class above him. And he for certain should of beaten Carl Froch, but his mental issues will always plague him IMO.

In reality he lost. You need more than skill to be a success. What advantages he had in skill were wiped out by the heart, bottle, stamina, toughness, power etc of those two.

Skills look more impressive, and are probably the most important factor after bottle, but that's only one part of the package.

Just because a fighter is faster, has more variety of punches and a better defence doesn't necessarily mean he will ever beat the lesser skilled man.. as history shows

[rjj tszyu]

u could be right icb, either way there is definately some issue there with the stamina, wether its mental nervous energy hes expending or hes not training to the best of his ability and gassing to easily, he is still a dam good fighter tho, only jermaine taylor nos what the problem is, hope he sorts it tho

He's got all the tools, except for maybe his defense at times. Is a bit leaky but he's got a fantastic jab, good speed, good power. And good skill sets but he's so frustrating especially if your a fan of his.

In reality he should of beat Kelly Pavlik x2, he's a class above him. And he for certain should of beaten Carl Froch, but his mental issues will always plague him IMO.

In reality he lost. You need more than skill to be a success. What advantages he had in skill were wiped out by the heart, bottle, stamina, toughness, power etc of those two.

Skills look more impressive, and are probably the most important factor after bottle, but that's only one part of the package.

Just because a fighter is faster, has more variety of punches and a better defence doesn't necessarily mean he will ever beat the lesser skilled man.. as history shows

Great points here. Rocky Marciano sprung to mind as soon as I read your post. He was not the fastest or most skillfull but he had a ton of power, heart and toughness and it showed!

[CFH]

u could be right icb, either way there is definately some issue there with the stamina, wether its mental nervous energy hes expending or hes not training to the best of his ability and gassing to easily, he is still a dam good fighter tho, only jermaine taylor nos what the problem is, hope he sorts it tho

He's got all the tools, except for maybe his defense at times. Is a bit leaky but he's got a fantastic jab, good speed, good power. And good skill sets but he's so frustrating especially if your a fan of his.

In reality he should of beat Kelly Pavlik x2, he's a class above him. And he for certain should of beaten Carl Froch, but his mental issues will always plague him IMO.

In reality he lost. You need more than skill to be a success. What advantages he had in skill were wiped out by the heart, bottle, stamina, toughness, power etc of those two.

Skills look more impressive, and are probably the most important factor after bottle, but that's only one part of the package.

Just because a fighter is faster, has more variety of punches and a better defence doesn't necessarily mean he will ever beat the lesser skilled man.. as history shows

I still think Taylor won the second fight.

[El Kabong]

Taylor-Abraham: I think a lot of people are going to be surprised how close (and GOOD) this fight is actually going to be! Abraham like Bernard Hopkins, gives away early rounds, that's not good vs Taylor who can build up a solid lead, and sure Froch closed the show but who knows maybe Abraham gets a little tuckered out and Taylor hangs on to win...it could happen, I think JT has a lot riding on him winning at least this fight.

Ward-Kessler: Mikkel gets overrated and underrated at the same time, but vs Andre Ward he is just too experienced and too powerful. Ward recently got dropped by Edison Miranda, and I can't name a top level guy Andre has hurt.

Dirrell-Froch: I see Carl Froch as a limited fighter with good power, I think Dirrell will surprise a lot of folks and stop him late.