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Thank God for our Dvds.
We are in a lull in a big way.No doubt on the Dvds.I found an old mystery tape the other night and it made the day.Sad really ;D.Ray Olivera vs. Elio Ortiz to boot...ugh
Not a biggie but am looking forward to Urango vs.Randall Baily :shinner:.....as well as Fernado Montiel mopping the floor with Eric 'Iron inmate' Morel shortly
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Originally Posted by killersheep
I agree with you killersheep pretty much there have been plenty of cracking matchups.
Paqauio Hatton was a megafight.
Mosely vs Margarito was for me at least if not a mega event certainly a fight fans wet dream, the two best welterweights in the world meeting head on.
J M Marquez against Diaz was another great fight, and Froch went over to America and knocked out a superstar, outside of Lennox Lewis and Joe Calzaghe how often does a British fight go to America, take on one of their elite stars and then KNOCK THEM OUT! It was huge, even Joe wasn't able to do that, Ricky never beat a top fighter in America, he always got KO'd, unless you count a faded Castillo as equal to Taylor, which I most definitely do not!
It's been a decent first half, with the best yet to come.
No Bilbo the problem is it wasn't huge.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
I agree with you killersheep pretty much there have been plenty of cracking matchups.
Paqauio Hatton was a megafight.
Mosely vs Margarito was for me at least if not a mega event certainly a fight fans wet dream, the two best welterweights in the world meeting head on.
J M Marquez against Diaz was another great fight, and Froch went over to America and knocked out a superstar, outside of Lennox Lewis and Joe Calzaghe how often does a British fight go to America, take on one of their elite stars and then KNOCK THEM OUT! It was huge, even Joe wasn't able to do that, Ricky never beat a top fighter in America, he always got KO'd, unless you count a faded Castillo as equal to Taylor, which I most definitely do not!
It's been a decent first half, with the best yet to come.
Froch-Taylor couldn't even get British TV.
In fact, what Brit in a "world" title fight in America, in recent times, has had no TV interest?
Even the guys with no chance are always shown live - Lockett, Lueshing, Clarke, Jennings etc...
The Brit "stars" like Calzaghe, Hatton, Naz, Lewis.. a huge deal was made of their fights Stateside. Most were PPV for funks sake.
If you are looking at the TV aspect, the UK has been pounded into submission, with Setanta going tits up and most other events being strictly PPV. I don't know that it's strictly a boxing popularity aspect, rather people pinching pennies to the detriment of "luxury" tv in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterNo Bilbo the problem is it wasn't huge.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
I agree with you killersheep pretty much there have been plenty of cracking matchups.
Paqauio Hatton was a megafight.
Mosely vs Margarito was for me at least if not a mega event certainly a fight fans wet dream, the two best welterweights in the world meeting head on.
J M Marquez against Diaz was another great fight, and Froch went over to America and knocked out a superstar, outside of Lennox Lewis and Joe Calzaghe how often does a British fight go to America, take on one of their elite stars and then KNOCK THEM OUT! It was huge, even Joe wasn't able to do that, Ricky never beat a top fighter in America, he always got KO'd, unless you count a faded Castillo as equal to Taylor, which I most definitely do not!
It's been a decent first half, with the best yet to come.
Froch-Taylor couldn't even get British TV.
In fact, what Brit in a "world" title fight in America, in recent times, has had no TV interest?
Even the guys with no chance are always shown live - Lockett, Lueshing, Clarke, Jennings etc...
The Brit "stars" like Calzaghe, Hatton, Naz, Lewis.. a huge deal was made of their fights Stateside. Most were PPV for funks sake.
Yes Setanta going is a big factor for Brit fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepIf you are looking at the TV aspect, the UK has been pounded into submission, with Setanta going tits up and most other events being strictly PPV. I don't know that it's strictly a boxing popularity aspect, rather people pinching pennies to the detriment of "luxury" tv in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterNo Bilbo the problem is it wasn't huge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Froch-Taylor couldn't even get British TV.
In fact, what Brit in a "world" title fight in America, in recent times, has had no TV interest?
Even the guys with no chance are always shown live - Lockett, Lueshing, Clarke, Jennings etc...
The Brit "stars" like Calzaghe, Hatton, Naz, Lewis.. a huge deal was made of their fights Stateside. Most were PPV for funks sake.
How many big fights have we named in this thread though? 10? Of those only one was a crossover job - Hatton-Pac, yet even that did "poor" PPV numbers, compared with previous Hatton fights, in Britain.
Looking at this again, I think the problem is the current crop of active fighters have just not been fighting enough. What's everyone waiting for?
Valid with the inactivity, although I still stand by the fact there were some great fights this year, maybe not financially, but strictly entertainment wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterYes Setanta going is a big factor for Brit fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepIf you are looking at the TV aspect, the UK has been pounded into submission, with Setanta going tits up and most other events being strictly PPV. I don't know that it's strictly a boxing popularity aspect, rather people pinching pennies to the detriment of "luxury" tv in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
How many big fights have we named in this thread though? 10? Of those only one was a crossover job - Hatton-Pac, yet even that did "poor" PPV numbers, compared with previous Hatton fights, in Britain.
Looking at this again, I think the problem is the current crop of active fighters have just not been fighting enough. What's everyone waiting for?
Dunne/Cordoba was a war, one in which skills were pretty on level.
Ortiz/Maidana another war (with a little dissapointing ending).
To be honest man, I know I'm spoiled cause here in the US we have ESPN2, Vs., HBO, Showtime, telefutura, telemundo, azteca, and the occassional Fox Sports (maybe once a year). And while on that side of the pond you can stream it all, it's often on inconvinient times for the casual viewer.
Ah I see what you mean. I thought you mean we had no good fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterNo Bilbo the problem is it wasn't huge.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
I agree with you killersheep pretty much there have been plenty of cracking matchups.
Paqauio Hatton was a megafight.
Mosely vs Margarito was for me at least if not a mega event certainly a fight fans wet dream, the two best welterweights in the world meeting head on.
J M Marquez against Diaz was another great fight, and Froch went over to America and knocked out a superstar, outside of Lennox Lewis and Joe Calzaghe how often does a British fight go to America, take on one of their elite stars and then KNOCK THEM OUT! It was huge, even Joe wasn't able to do that, Ricky never beat a top fighter in America, he always got KO'd, unless you count a faded Castillo as equal to Taylor, which I most definitely do not!
It's been a decent first half, with the best yet to come.
Froch-Taylor couldn't even get British TV.
In fact, what Brit in a "world" title fight in America, in recent times, has had no TV interest?
Even the guys with no chance are always shown live - Lockett, Lueshing, Clarke, Jennings etc...
The Brit "stars" like Calzaghe, Hatton, Naz, Lewis.. a huge deal was made of their fights Stateside. Most were PPV for funks sake.
Yeah commercially, and in terms of getting fights to the masses its been a bit of a disaster.
Carl Froch should be a household name in the UK but outside of boxing fans nobody has heard of him, which is disgraceful.
And Margarito against Mosely was a proper fightfans fight for chance to be THE man in the THE best weight class in boxing, and again should have been a big sporting occasion.
PPV has ruined the sport, and with Setanta gone and terrestial telly not interested in boxing its certainly gone to the dogs I agree with you on that 100%
Yeah you're right about the TV coverage. For me it's miles better if i can watch the fights live on TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepValid with the inactivity, although I still stand by the fact there were some great fights this year, maybe not financially, but strictly entertainment wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterYes Setanta going is a big factor for Brit fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
How many big fights have we named in this thread though? 10? Of those only one was a crossover job - Hatton-Pac, yet even that did "poor" PPV numbers, compared with previous Hatton fights, in Britain.
Looking at this again, I think the problem is the current crop of active fighters have just not been fighting enough. What's everyone waiting for?
Dunne/Cordoba was a war, one in which skills were pretty on level.
Ortiz/Maidana another war (with a little dissapointing ending).
To be honest man, I know I'm spoiled cause here in the US we have ESPN2, Vs., HBO, Showtime, telefutura, telemundo, azteca, and the occassional Fox Sports (maybe once a year). And while on that side of the pond you can stream it all, it's often on inconvinient times for the casual viewer.
Dunne-Cordoba (great fight) which I had to watch on the internet.
Ortiz-Maidana I watched on delayed coverage after obviously knowing the result. Not the same.
Well I really hope that ESPN gives you guys some coverage (not sure of the details of that deal). That aside i think the economy in general is gonna hurt mega events well into next summer. (No Lyle........sit.....do not turn this into a political rant). As I previously stated I think this is an overall down market issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterYeah you're right about the TV coverage. For me it's miles better if i can watch the fights live on TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepValid with the inactivity, although I still stand by the fact there were some great fights this year, maybe not financially, but strictly entertainment wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Dunne/Cordoba was a war, one in which skills were pretty on level.
Ortiz/Maidana another war (with a little dissapointing ending).
To be honest man, I know I'm spoiled cause here in the US we have ESPN2, Vs., HBO, Showtime, telefutura, telemundo, azteca, and the occassional Fox Sports (maybe once a year). And while on that side of the pond you can stream it all, it's often on inconvinient times for the casual viewer.
Dunne-Cordoba (great fight) which I had to watch on the internet.
Ortiz-Maidana I watched on delayed coverage after obviously knowing the result. Not the same.
Pavlik Williams is apparently signed and sealed for October.
Pavlik vs Williams Agreement Reached: War on Oct 3 - Boxing News
Not mega but big. I think there have been a few big fights less this years due to the recession.
I agree that its been a bit of a slow year. Recent months have been lagging horribly with all the cancellations and delays. The Hatton fight was big but wasn't a pleasant thing so I have kind of erased that from my mind, but apart from that just a straggle of fights that you could say were quality.
If Floyd gets Knocked Out, it will be a great year!
Oh, it would be splendid! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Jimboogie
Yeah this year has been pretty shitty. I am interested in the Tavoris Cloud Clinton Woods matchup. Just to gauge to see how good Cloud reall is. If he is as good as I think he is we will have a super fight at lightheavyweight with Dawson.