Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
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themacmagician
I do miss him for sure. Followed him for years. But. Its time to sit back, remember the good nights and let the show go on i'm afriad. As Lyle says, things are still movin on. Although Hatton might not be fighting, he defo brings on some good shows himself for sure. He puts on a good show on his promotion and I'd say things will only get better o the British scene atleast. There are fighters to keep us entertained for a while IMO, I say we should dish out some support elsewhere, it'll help British boxing for sure. Maybe not greats and i'm sure there are more.....
John Murray
Amir Kon
Kel Brook
Jamie Moore
Kevin Mitchell
Carl Froch
Joe Murray
Billy Joe Saunders
James Degale
Frankie Gavin
Tony Jeffries
Matthew Macklin
George Groves
Nathan Cleverly
Good list.
David Haye...not a fan or forgot to add him;D
Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
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hattonthehammer
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Cant help but think since may the sport has lost its biggest personality and all the fan fare and excitement that comes with a ricky hatton showdown.
This sport needs its personalitys to survive and despite not managing to win either of his 2 major showdowns he brought a hell of a lot of anticipation and charisma.
Remembering standing in the middle of a packed out vegas strip belting out a hatton chant and wondering if there truly is a single person in not just the sporting world but across the globe who can truly bring this kind of excitement and passion with them?
Not for all your mayweathers, mosleys, calzaghes and klitschkos can you get or create such anticipation and intrigue as a ricky hatton
There is no need for him to come back really, his latest loss makes it very difficult to comeback and be a major player again, hes to old and been in to many wars to make a serious comeback to the top and add to that he looks pretty shot to me.
Stay retired.
You not updated your sig yet Hammer ;D
30 years old is now considered too old??
Your supposed to be hitting your prime at that age not calling it a day. So he got knocked out by manny pacquiao and floyd mayweather. 2 of the very best around and you could quite easily argue that ricky has already fought his 2 hardest fights and should still be able to retire as world champion.
Fact is ricky hatton pulls in fans all over the world. It would be a crying shame if someone so young decided to pack it in just because of 2 defeats!!
PS:He won the WBA at welter and not light welter!
Ricky is a brawler type of fighter they dont have aslong of a career than say the likes of Mosley.Ricky has been hit alot and is past his best.
I think at the moment us fans mis him more than he misses fighting at the moment.
Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
....not any where as much as hatton needs boxing.
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great thread really enjoyed reading it ;)
for me if he fights on it just wouldn't be the same and i don't think boxing is missing him world wide just mainly the die hard fans craving for happier times when he was king of the castle.
Could he fight on sure there are still a few fights i'd watch him in...
Shot Hatton Vs Shot Witter even enough fight IMO
Hatton Vs khan would be an very intresting and massive selling fight in the UK.
Hatton Vs Judah would prob still intreast me for nostalgia.
but aint intrested in him lining his pockets on fighting some piss poor Euro guy and selling it as a fairwell for the fans.
he's started promoting now and really i can't see him coming back unless the promotions or his name starts to go stale.
Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
I don't think he's got any chance of another PPV fight in America. I think the best he could do now is JMM or Juan Diaz. Both those guys would take the fight in England because it's probably their biggest potential payday. I think Hatton will fight one of them if he does fight again and I think it'd fractionally more likely than not that he will fight again even though he's finished at the top level.
Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
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porkypara
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themacmagician
I do miss him for sure. Followed him for years. But. Its time to sit back, remember the good nights and let the show go on i'm afriad. As Lyle says, things are still movin on. Although Hatton might not be fighting, he defo brings on some good shows himself for sure. He puts on a good show on his promotion and I'd say things will only get better o the British scene atleast. There are fighters to keep us entertained for a while IMO, I say we should dish out some support elsewhere, it'll help British boxing for sure. Maybe not greats and i'm sure there are more.....
John Murray
Amir Kon
Kel Brook
Jamie Moore
Kevin Mitchell
Carl Froch
Joe Murray
Billy Joe Saunders
James Degale
Frankie Gavin
Tony Jeffries
Matthew Macklin
George Groves
Nathan Cleverly
Good list.
David Haye...not a fan or forgot to add him;D
Certainly forgot man..... Not his biggest fan just yet but he should have been on there. To be honest, i'd like to see Haye fight Tomas Adamek or Steve Cunningham, so if he doesn't make the heavies, theres a good place for him down there anyway still i think.....
Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
Hatton and his crowd were for sure bringing a cool buzz and one of the fiercest. However, Boxing doesn't need absolutely it to be healthy and in good condition. I think Hatton should stay where he is before getting anymore damageable injuries.
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Hatton should have 1 last fight in England...just for his fans and maybe to go out with a win instead of having Pacquiao's fist and a bunch of swirling stars and birdies being his last boxing memory.
Saddo mentioned a few good bouts...how about these?
Hatton-Prescott: Avenging Amir Kahn's lone loss...or giving us fodder for a rematch.
Hatton-Alex Arthur: a domestic battle nobody probably thought of (I assume for reasons you're all about to tell me)
Hatton-Michael Katsidis: perfect style matchup
Hatton-Demetrius Hopkins: B-Hop's cousin or whatever would be a good named opponent and a good story as perhaps B-Hop and memories of him vs Calzaghe could help sell the show, like Ricky would need help selling tickets thoug :rolleyes:
Forget Marquez and Diaz, #1 Marquez still has a little left #2 Diaz is a lousy bastard who never fights away from Houston because he can't lose there.
Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
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Fenster
Hatton never had the style for longevity (had a good run mind). Once the face first pressure merchants start getting battered they're done.
Totally agree, plus Hatton didn't do well moving up, and it's ruinous on him to get down to 140. I guess he could have a last hurrah, but really if it's just some relative tomato can, what's the point?
Re: Does boxing need hatton back?
In America, nobody really gives a fukk about Hatton.
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As ive said all along while i dont see the point in hatton drawing out a career in which he becomes desperately found out later on. Losses to floyd and pacquiao do not indicate a fighter who is past his sell by date more someone who fought at a level which was just too much for him.
He got frustrated against floyd and allowed his head to rule his heart, by no means was it a battering and even going into the last third of the fight he was still well in it. Pacquiao was a calamity from start to finish. You can train longer and harder than youve ever done in your entire life but if the gameplan isnt there against top level opposition you dont stand a chance.
If ricky hatton was american and had a career record that read 45-2 there wouldnt be a single person on this site calling for a halt to his career. Yet because us brits cant take seeing our boy take a beating we declare that the only reason he lost was because he was "past his sell by date"
The hatton that fought malignaggi was the quickest, busiest and strongest hatton ive seen since the kostya/vivian harris fights. That night he was reinvented yet within 6 disasterous minutes he is once again a shot fighter???????
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hattonthehammer
As ive said all along while i dont see the point in hatton drawing out a career in which he becomes desperately found out later on. Losses to floyd and pacquiao do not indicate a fighter who is past his sell by date more someone who fought at a level which was just too much for him.
He got frustrated against floyd and allowed his head to rule his heart, by no means was it a battering and even going into the last third of the fight he was still well in it. Pacquiao was a calamity from start to finish. You can train longer and harder than youve ever done in your entire life but if the gameplan isnt there against top level opposition you dont stand a chance.
If ricky hatton was american and had a career record that read 45-2 there wouldnt be a single person on this site calling for a halt to his career. Yet because us brits cant take seeing our boy take a beating we declare that the only reason he lost was because he was "past his sell by date"
The hatton that fought malignaggi was the quickest, busiest and strongest hatton ive seen since the kostya/vivian harris fights. That night he was reinvented yet within 6 disasterous minutes he is once again a shot fighter???????
Im English not only English im from a place 20 mintues down the road from Hatton, he should retire.
When did he fight Vivian Harris?? I dont want to argue mate, but again it was the mannor of defeat against Pac, he is not a knockout artist. Hattons chin looked like jelly.
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skel1983
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hattonthehammer
As ive said all along while i dont see the point in hatton drawing out a career in which he becomes desperately found out later on. Losses to floyd and pacquiao do not indicate a fighter who is past his sell by date more someone who fought at a level which was just too much for him.
He got frustrated against floyd and allowed his head to rule his heart, by no means was it a battering and even going into the last third of the fight he was still well in it. Pacquiao was a calamity from start to finish. You can train longer and harder than youve ever done in your entire life but if the gameplan isnt there against top level opposition you dont stand a chance.
If ricky hatton was american and had a career record that read 45-2 there wouldnt be a single person on this site calling for a halt to his career. Yet because us brits cant take seeing our boy take a beating we declare that the only reason he lost was because he was "past his sell by date"
The hatton that fought malignaggi was the quickest, busiest and strongest hatton ive seen since the kostya/vivian harris fights. That night he was reinvented yet within 6 disasterous minutes he is once again a shot fighter???????
Im English not only English im from a place 20 mintues down the road from Hatton, he should retire.
When did he fight Vivian Harris?? I dont want to argue mate, but again it was the mannor of defeat against Pac, he is not a knockout artist. Hattons chin looked like jelly.
It was a 2round mauling, he got caught hard early on and never recovered. He didnt take a dela hoya type complete hammering where he didnt land effectively once all night. He didnt look like someone who had lost any speed, strength etc and he sure as hell had never been caught that hard and often by anyone he had ever been in with. Just in with a far superior opponent who had worked out hattons one dimensional game plan to a tee.
In a sport such us boxing early ends will always happen. Its what makes this sport the greatest in the world because from first bell to last it can end at any moment. Ricky should fight on, not for the fans nor his ego but because even at 30/31 he still is more than capable of a few vintage performances like what he produced against malignaggi
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hattonthehammer
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skel1983
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hattonthehammer
As ive said all along while i dont see the point in hatton drawing out a career in which he becomes desperately found out later on. Losses to floyd and pacquiao do not indicate a fighter who is past his sell by date more someone who fought at a level which was just too much for him.
He got frustrated against floyd and allowed his head to rule his heart, by no means was it a battering and even going into the last third of the fight he was still well in it. Pacquiao was a calamity from start to finish. You can train longer and harder than youve ever done in your entire life but if the gameplan isnt there against top level opposition you dont stand a chance.
If ricky hatton was american and had a career record that read 45-2 there wouldnt be a single person on this site calling for a halt to his career. Yet because us brits cant take seeing our boy take a beating we declare that the only reason he lost was because he was "past his sell by date"
The hatton that fought malignaggi was the quickest, busiest and strongest hatton ive seen since the kostya/vivian harris fights. That night he was reinvented yet within 6 disasterous minutes he is once again a shot fighter???????
Im English not only English im from a place 20 mintues down the road from Hatton, he should retire.
When did he fight Vivian Harris?? I dont want to argue mate, but again it was the mannor of defeat against Pac, he is not a knockout artist. Hattons chin looked like jelly.
It was a 2round mauling, he got caught hard early on and never recovered. He didnt take a dela hoya type complete hammering where he didnt land effectively once all night. He didnt look like someone who had lost any speed, strength etc and he sure as hell had never been caught that hard and often by anyone he had ever been in with. Just in with a far superior opponent who had worked out hattons one dimensional game plan to a tee.
In a sport such us boxing early ends will always happen. Its what makes this sport the greatest in the world because from first bell to last it can end at any moment. Ricky should fight on, not for the fans nor his ego but because even at 30/31 he still is more than capable of a few vintage performances like what he produced against malignaggi
But let's not forget that Paulie has no punch and hasn't stopped an opponent since 1764. Hatton was able to use his quick feet to get in close and show no respect while doing so. In a few recent fights now Hatton has been stopped or else wobbly. Mayweather, Lazcano, Pacquiao, heck even Collazo who isn't a big puncher had him in some trouble. Hattons chin does seem to be wavering.
Part of me would like one more fight to say farewell, but I would have him nowhere near any big punchers again. Not after being flat out for several minutes last time out. Nobody is ever out for that long in a major fight. It was worrying.
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miles
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hattonthehammer
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skel1983
Im English not only English im from a place 20 mintues down the road from Hatton, he should retire.
When did he fight Vivian Harris?? I dont want to argue mate, but again it was the mannor of defeat against Pac, he is not a knockout artist. Hattons chin looked like jelly.
It was a 2round mauling, he got caught hard early on and never recovered. He didnt take a dela hoya type complete hammering where he didnt land effectively once all night. He didnt look like someone who had lost any speed, strength etc and he sure as hell had never been caught that hard and often by anyone he had ever been in with. Just in with a far superior opponent who had worked out hattons one dimensional game plan to a tee.
In a sport such us boxing early ends will always happen. Its what makes this sport the greatest in the world because from first bell to last it can end at any moment. Ricky should fight on, not for the fans nor his ego but because even at 30/31 he still is more than capable of a few vintage performances like what he produced against malignaggi
But let's not forget that Paulie has no punch and hasn't stopped an opponent since 1764. Hatton was able to use his quick feet to get in close and show no respect while doing so. In a few recent fights now Hatton has been stopped or else wobbly. Mayweather, Lazcano, Pacquiao, heck even Collazo who isn't a big puncher had him in some trouble. Hattons chin does seem to be wavering.
Part of me would like one more fight to say farewell, but I would have him nowhere near any big punchers again. Not after being flat out for several minutes last time out. Nobody is ever out for that long in a major fight. It was worrying.
Paulie doesnt have it in him to knockout anyone of any reasonable standard thats been conclusively proved.
But what has also been shown in his fights with cotto and diaz is that he is an extremely awkward opponent to get to grips with and to date only hatton has managed to completely expose and dominate him over 12rounds (TKO in the 11th)
Hatton isnt the great great fighter of the 21st century, thats been conclusively proven. But for anyone to claim that by watching 6minutes of boxing they can say he is past his sell by date is madness.
Pacquiao would of done the same thing to the same hatton that fought kostya tszyu. Im the biggest hatton nut on this site and even i can accept that!!