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i thought it was the kind of fight that could of gone either way, i was still surprised when haye got the nod though;D
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I thought Haye edged it.
His workrate was a disgrace though especially in the middle rounds.
I wouldn't of been surprised with a draw or Valuev taking it.
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hattonthehammer
hand on heart thought it should of been scored for valuev EASILY
hayes a fraud
Who cares if Valuev threw more? The last I checked he was trying to defeat david haye and not the thin air he was hitting.
Haye landed more and better punches and that's that.
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hattonthehammer
hand on heart thought it should of been scored for valuev EASILY
hayes a fraud
I think Hay'es sh1te too, but you cannot win a fight just by stumbling forward a hitting thin air which is all the lump did all night
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I understand that you don't like his inactivity/attempts at trash talking etc... but to say that valuev won easily stinks of hating tbh.
valuev had moments where he controled the ring, not because of effective punching, but because of his sheer size and haye's reluctance to get clipped on the chin by 23 stone... but that's IT.
haye may have done next to nothing but valuev actually did nothing.
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haven't seen the full fight just a "highlight" reel (if you can even call it that), and from what i saw Haye appeared to do more, but not much, IMO my opinion of Haye is the same, he's crap and horribly overrated, both Klitschko's, Arreola, and i'm pretty sure that even Chambers beat him, hell i'd even pick Adamek over Haye
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ElTerribleMorales
haven't seen the full fight just a "highlight" reel (if you can even call it that), and from what i saw Haye appeared to do more, but not much, IMO my opinion of Haye is the same, he's crap and horribly overrated, both Klitschko's, Arreola, and i'm pretty sure that even Chambers beat him, hell i'd even pick Adamek over Haye
I think Haye would beat Arreola quite easily, id like to see him fight Chambers.
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AdamGB
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hattonthehammer
hand on heart thought it should of been scored for valuev EASILY
hayes a fraud
Who cares if Valuev
threw more? The last I checked he was trying to defeat david haye and not the thin air he was hitting.
Haye landed more and better punches and that's that.
No it's true if you just run around the ring and windmill your arms you automatically win, i think it's written in the Queensbury rules specifically.
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ElTerribleMorales
haven't seen the full fight just a "highlight" reel (if you can even call it that), and from what i saw Haye appeared to do more, but not much, IMO my opinion of Haye is the same, he's crap and horribly overrated, both Klitschko's, Arreola, and i'm pretty sure that even Chambers beat him, hell i'd even pick Adamek over Haye
I think Haye would beat Arreola quite easily, id like to see him fight Chambers.
i don't, i think Arreola's chin is already more than proven and IMO Vitali hits harder than Haye, difference between Valuev and Arreola is that Arreola is gonna actually be pressuring him for the whole fight, he's gonna be using both hands and not some weak jab, Haye didn't prove shit against Valuev, especially seeing how he didn't really fight half the fight :-\
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To be honest calling Haye a fraud is a joke. His styles not really suited to taking on a 7 foot giant, I have never seen haye on the backfoot so much and rightfully so, his style wouldnt have beaten Valuev, he adapated to make it a borefest ;D that was the only way to beat Valuev though, hes too big, too too big
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Tam Seddon
To be honest calling Haye a fraud is a joke. His styles not really suited to taking on a 7 foot giant, I have never seen haye on the backfoot so much and rightfully so, his style wouldnt have beaten Valuev, he adapated to make it a borefest ;D that was the only way to beat Valuev though, hes too big, too too big
So would we expect the same if he fought the Klits that are 6' 7" +?
The are also too too big.
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Tam Seddon
To be honest calling Haye a fraud is a joke. His styles not really suited to taking on a 7 foot giant, I have never seen haye on the backfoot so much and rightfully so, his style wouldnt have beaten Valuev, he adapated to make it a borefest ;D that was the only way to beat Valuev though, hes too big, too too big
he's also to inactive basically nullifying any significant advantage that his size would give him, if the giant is only throwing weak ass jabs, just circle him and break his body down, he never used his damn right hand so don't know why the hell Haye was so shy, dunno what he plans to do when the 6'8 Vitali chooses to jump on him and bang away with a stiff jab, left hooks, straight right hands, and uppercuts, IMO this is the only "big" win that Haye will have at HW
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killersheep
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Tam Seddon
To be honest calling Haye a fraud is a joke. His styles not really suited to taking on a 7 foot giant, I have never seen haye on the backfoot so much and rightfully so, his style wouldnt have beaten Valuev, he adapated to make it a borefest ;D that was the only way to beat Valuev though, hes too big, too too big
So would we expect the same if he fought the Klits that are 6' 7" +?
The are also too too big.
I aint sticking up for Haye, but 4 inches is a lot different to 11 inches
...at least that's what VD's missus said when she came round mine after she left his last night ;D
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BIG H
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killersheep
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Tam Seddon
To be honest calling Haye a fraud is a joke. His styles not really suited to taking on a 7 foot giant, I have never seen haye on the backfoot so much and rightfully so, his style wouldnt have beaten Valuev, he adapated to make it a borefest ;D that was the only way to beat Valuev though, hes too big, too too big
So would we expect the same if he fought the Klits that are 6' 7" +?
The are also too too big.
I aint sticking up for Haye, but 4 inches is a lot different to 11 inches
...at least that's what VD's missus said when she came round mine after she left his last night ;D
BOOM -shock-a-locka.
The height difference yeah it's a little more reasonable, but their reaches are almost the same.
Heights
Valuev: 7'0"
Vitali: 6'7.5"
Wlad: 6'7"
Haye: 6'3"
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killersheep
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Tam Seddon
To be honest calling Haye a fraud is a joke. His styles not really suited to taking on a 7 foot giant, I have never seen haye on the backfoot so much and rightfully so, his style wouldnt have beaten Valuev, he adapated to make it a borefest ;D that was the only way to beat Valuev though, hes too big, too too big
So would we expect the same if he fought the Klits that are 6' 7" +?
The are also too too big.
I would expect Wlad Klit to do win a decision, and Vitali Klit to make it a bit more exciting and break down Haye and end him Mid to late.