New Heavyweight Champion

[ElTerribleMorales]

haven't seen the full fight just a "highlight" reel (if you can even call it that), and from what i saw Haye appeared to do more, but not much, IMO my opinion of Haye is the same, he's crap and horribly overrated, both Klitschko's, Arreola, and i'm pretty sure that even Chambers beat him, hell i'd even pick Adamek over Haye

[skel1983]

haven't seen the full fight just a "highlight" reel (if you can even call it that), and from what i saw Haye appeared to do more, but not much, IMO my opinion of Haye is the same, he's crap and horribly overrated, both Klitschko's, Arreola, and i'm pretty sure that even Chambers beat him, hell i'd even pick Adamek over Haye

I think Haye would beat Arreola quite easily, id like to see him fight Chambers.

[ElTerribleMorales]

haven't seen the full fight just a "highlight" reel (if you can even call it that), and from what i saw Haye appeared to do more, but not much, IMO my opinion of Haye is the same, he's crap and horribly overrated, both Klitschko's, Arreola, and i'm pretty sure that even Chambers beat him, hell i'd even pick Adamek over Haye

I think Haye would beat Arreola quite easily, id like to see him fight Chambers.

i don't, i think Arreola's chin is already more than proven and IMO Vitali hits harder than Haye, difference between Valuev and Arreola is that Arreola is gonna actually be pressuring him for the whole fight, he's gonna be using both hands and not some weak jab, Haye didn't prove shit against Valuev, especially seeing how he didn't really fight half the fight

[Tam Seddon]

To be honest calling Haye a fraud is a joke. His styles not really suited to taking on a 7 foot giant, I have never seen haye on the backfoot so much and rightfully so, his style wouldnt have beaten Valuev, he adapated to make it a borefest that was the only way to beat Valuev though, hes too big, too too big

[killersheep]

To be honest calling Haye a fraud is a joke. His styles not really suited to taking on a 7 foot giant, I have never seen haye on the backfoot so much and rightfully so, his style wouldnt have beaten Valuev, he adapated to make it a borefest that was the only way to beat Valuev though, hes too big, too too big

So would we expect the same if he fought the Klits that are 6' 7" +?
The are also too too big.

[BIG H]

To be honest calling Haye a fraud is a joke. His styles not really suited to taking on a 7 foot giant, I have never seen haye on the backfoot so much and rightfully so, his style wouldnt have beaten Valuev, he adapated to make it a borefest that was the only way to beat Valuev though, hes too big, too too big

So would we expect the same if he fought the Klits that are 6' 7" +?
The are also too too big.

I aint sticking up for Haye, but 4 inches is a lot different to 11 inches

...at least that's what VD's missus said when she came round mine after she left his last night

[killersheep]

To be honest calling Haye a fraud is a joke. His styles not really suited to taking on a 7 foot giant, I have never seen haye on the backfoot so much and rightfully so, his style wouldnt have beaten Valuev, he adapated to make it a borefest that was the only way to beat Valuev though, hes too big, too too big

So would we expect the same if he fought the Klits that are 6' 7" +?
The are also too too big.

I aint sticking up for Haye, but 4 inches is a lot different to 11 inches

...at least that's what VD's missus said when she came round mine after she left his last night

BOOM -shock-a-locka.

The height difference yeah it's a little more reasonable, but their reaches are almost the same.

Heights

Valuev: 7'0"
Vitali: 6'7.5"
Wlad: 6'7"
Haye: 6'3"

[Tam Seddon]

To be honest calling Haye a fraud is a joke. His styles not really suited to taking on a 7 foot giant, I have never seen haye on the backfoot so much and rightfully so, his style wouldnt have beaten Valuev, he adapated to make it a borefest that was the only way to beat Valuev though, hes too big, too too big

So would we expect the same if he fought the Klits that are 6' 7" +?
The are also too too big.

I would expect Wlad Klit to do win a decision, and Vitali Klit to make it a bit more exciting and break down Haye and end him Mid to late.

[ElTerribleMorales]

To be honest calling Haye a fraud is a joke. His styles not really suited to taking on a 7 foot giant, I have never seen haye on the backfoot so much and rightfully so, his style wouldnt have beaten Valuev, he adapated to make it a borefest that was the only way to beat Valuev though, hes too big, too too big

he's also to inactive basically nullifying any significant advantage that his size would give him, if the giant is only throwing weak ass jabs, just circle him and break his body down, he never used his damn right hand so don't know why the hell Haye was so shy, dunno what he plans to do when the 6'8 Vitali chooses to jump on him and bang away with a stiff jab, left hooks, straight right hands, and uppercuts, IMO this is the only "big" win that Haye will have at HW

[Tam Seddon]

To be honest calling Haye a fraud is a joke. His styles not really suited to taking on a 7 foot giant, I have never seen haye on the backfoot so much and rightfully so, his style wouldnt have beaten Valuev, he adapated to make it a borefest that was the only way to beat Valuev though, hes too big, too too big

he's also to inactive basically nullifying any significant advantage that his size would give him, if the giant is only throwing weak ass jabs, just circle him and break his body down, he never used his damn right hand so don't know why the hell Haye was so shy, dunno what he plans to do when the 6'8 Vitali chooses to jump on him and bang away with a stiff jab, left hooks, straight right hands, and uppercuts, IMO this is the only "big" win that Haye will have at HW

thats why I agree hes going to face problems, but Klit isnt as big as Valuev is he? But I dont think any heavyweight in this world could come out with a sufficent game plan where they could simply outclass Valuev. I believe every fight with him is going to be dull and its whoever the judges will fancy to get the nod IMO

[ElTerribleMorales]

To be honest calling Haye a fraud is a joke. His styles not really suited to taking on a 7 foot giant, I have never seen haye on the backfoot so much and rightfully so, his style wouldnt have beaten Valuev, he adapated to make it a borefest that was the only way to beat Valuev though, hes too big, too too big

he's also to inactive basically nullifying any significant advantage that his size would give him, if the giant is only throwing weak ass jabs, just circle him and break his body down, he never used his damn right hand so don't know why the hell Haye was so shy, dunno what he plans to do when the 6'8 Vitali chooses to jump on him and bang away with a stiff jab, left hooks, straight right hands, and uppercuts, IMO this is the only "big" win that Haye will have at HW

thats why I agree hes going to face problems, but Klit isnt as big as Valuev is he? But I dont think any heavyweight in this world could come out with a sufficent game plan where they could simply outclass Valuev. I believe every fight with him is going to be dull and its whoever the judges will fancy to get the nod IMO

Valuev isn't as powerful or as skilled as either Klitschko now is he? and that's the reason why David Haye won't beat either fighter, and i'm assuming that seeing how you thought Haye won that you finally saw Froch/Dirrell and saw that this decision is how the other fight should have gone right?!?

[bradlee180]

Well, it wasn't a fight that fans will rewatch time-and-time again like the great classic fights of history, but Haye was the one who was landing the punches.

Haye's clean hard shots(he should've thrown more of them though), but Valuev didn't land much at all.

The right guy got the decision in Germany against a Sauerland fighter which is a miracle in itself.

Hand-injury in rd 2 or 3 led to Haye fighting a very disciplined methodical fight instead of his usual more reckless aggressive KO style.

Very amazed that Haye could go 12 rds at all.
He's only fought about 7 rds total in the past 2 years.


Too bad he has to fight John Ruiz in his first title defense though.

John The Quiet Man Ruiz has guts and perseverance...but he still ought to be outlawed though...

Hah, old Ruiz actually looked the best I've ever seen him tonight both in physical appearance and in his more aggressive fighting style: No clinching and hugging !!!


Hopefully Haye can do in Ruiz in similar fashion that Tua did and be done with it.


Haye winning a strap in a very positive step for boxing.


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