The Super Six is not dead. Fact.

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11-22-2009, 03:58 PM
killersheep

Re: The Super Six is dead. Fact.

Everyone showed up for the first round so it's got farther than I expected.

I don't think it's dead at the are still many different styles to be matched. Nothing is a certainty at this point.

It's pretty cool when you can say 9 of the top 10 Super Middleweights have in their last fight or their next fight, fought another top 10 Super Middleweight.
11-22-2009, 04:03 PM
SEB

Re: The Super Six is dead. Fact.

going in US seem the only way to get a fair fight ??? alllo ??? wake up son, we just saw how "fair" was the referee during Kessler-Ward. ward was allowed to do whatever he wanted to do, clinch, headbutt, and so on....

Nobody finds it strange that a week ago all referees for the fights were US based ?? I mean common, it was not accidental at all.

a fair fight is either in Europe/US but with true neutral and impartial referees !!!!
11-22-2009, 04:11 PM
OumaFan

Re: The Super Six is dead. Fact.

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Originally Posted by SEB

going in US seem the only way to get a fair fight ??? alllo ??? wake up son, we just saw how "fair" was the referee during Kessler-Ward. ward was allowed to do whatever he wanted to do, clinch, headbutt, and so on....

Nobody finds it strange that a week ago all referees for the fights were US based ?? I mean common, it was not accidental at all.

a fair fight is either in Europe/US but with true neutral and impartial referees !!!!

;D

Yes but with Froch-Dirrell you had corrupt refereeing and corrupt judging, here you just had corrupt refereeing. Clearly as far as fairness goes U.S.A.>Britain.
11-22-2009, 04:29 PM
SEB

Re: The Super Six is nearly dead. Fact.

let's try Germany then :-)
11-22-2009, 05:27 PM
gest12645

Re: The Super Six is nearly dead. Fact.

let the best man win. srew whoevers the favorite or underdog .
11-22-2009, 06:07 PM
p4pking

Re: The Super Six is dead. Fact.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

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Originally Posted by Fenster

You mean as corrupt as the judges sent into Europe to judge. Not Euro judges. Yes we all know Amercians are scared to travel.

I'm not mocking Jesus. He's a class fighter. I don't mind a guy that has skill and knows how to play dirty. That's a good sign. Like Hopkins.

Rantcatrat, I love the Super Six. I'm just saying how it can't work not that I want it to fail.

Technicalities. At least one of the three judges brought in was bought off. Fact. The other was maybe a big fan of rabbit punches?

Roy Jones getting screwed in Korea means no U.S. fighter ever has to travel as you well know, Dirrell/Froch was just reinforcement for those that that must of forgot.

:lolhaha:
11-22-2009, 07:15 PM
Violent Demise

Re: The Super Six is dead. Fact.

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I made that post without seeing the fight. Going by the reports I thought Kessler was thrashed with Ward putting on a masterclass (:vd:). I've now seen the fight. It wasn't half as bad as most have made out.

I take back what I said.

Kessler wasn't humiliated just outhustled by a tricky faster guy on his home-turf. I wouldn't completely write Kessler off if they fought again.

The Super Six is still alive (just). Fact.

:vd:
11-22-2009, 07:20 PM
OumaFan

Re: The Super Six is nearly dead. Fact.

I've been trying out my best Fenster impersonation this whole thread but to be serious for once Fenster what's a masterclass if that wasn't one? That was shockingly dominant. Kessler barely landed anything and Ward just toyed with him.

Edit-Froch-Dirrell was a debacle though.
11-22-2009, 07:21 PM
Pugilistic

Re: The Super Six is dead. Fact.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I made that post without seeing the fight. Going by the reports I thought Kessler was thrashed with Ward putting on a masterclass (:vd:). I've now seen the fight. It wasn't half as bad as most have made out.

I take back what I said.

Kessler wasn't humiliated just outhustled by a tricky faster guy on his home-turf. I wouldn't completely write Kessler off if they fought again.

The Super Six is still alive (just). Fact.

:vd:

I second that.
11-22-2009, 07:21 PM
Fenster

Re: The Super Six is dead. Fact.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I made that post without seeing the fight. Going by the reports I thought Kessler was thrashed with Ward putting on a masterclass (:vd:). I've now seen the fight. It wasn't half as bad as most have made out.

I take back what I said.

Kessler wasn't humiliated just outhustled by a tricky faster guy on his home-turf. I wouldn't completely write Kessler off if they fought again.

The Super Six is still alive (just). Fact.

:vd:

I never commented on the fight. ;)
11-22-2009, 07:22 PM
Fenster

Re: The Super Six is dead. Fact.

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Originally Posted by Pugilistic

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Fenster

I made that post without seeing the fight. Going by the reports I thought Kessler was thrashed with Ward putting on a masterclass (:vd:). I've now seen the fight. It wasn't half as bad as most have made out.

I take back what I said.

Kessler wasn't humiliated just outhustled by a tricky faster guy on his home-turf. I wouldn't completely write Kessler off if they fought again.

The Super Six is still alive (just). Fact.

:vd:

I second that.

second what?
11-22-2009, 07:24 PM
Fenster

Re: The Super Six is nearly dead. Fact.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

I've been trying out my best Fenster impersonation this whole thread but to be serious for once Fenster what's a masterclass if that wasn't one? That was shockingly dominant. Kessler barely landed anything and Ward just toyed with him.

Edit-Froch-Dirrell was a debacle though.

It was to ugly/disjointed for a masterclass. Very impressive performance.
11-23-2009, 07:55 AM
Nameless

Re: The Super Six is dead. Fact.

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Originally Posted by hitmanhatton

my only problem with this tournament is how they manage to keep it together, for example if dirrel is knocked out by abraham next round then why would he stick around for his 3rd fight, knowing he cant get through and facing a third straight loss, same with taylor, if he loses again, its too late to get a replacment for the last round of fights

I see your point, however, I disagree and I think that it doesn't kill the interest in the end: The thrill to me is not that much to know who will win the whole thing but to see the bests fighting the bests and not grossing their roster with some Zelenoff. Sure, to know who will win is a part of the whole fun but I appreciate even more to see all these different clash of style and of good boxers on such a short period of time, that is the big point of the tournament and it corrects something that MMA does and boxing didn't: loads of quality and meaningful matches to find out who is really the best.
At the end, even if Taylor would have go get out and be replaced by let's say Green or Lucian Bute, even if these two couldn't win the tournament because of the mathematical probabilities (i.e imagine that Abraham wins a second fight via K.O and that Ward wins his second contest too), wouldn't it be nice to see them step in with the best of the division too? I think it would be ecstatic, and that doesn't mean that they couldn't fight the winner or the top 2 of the tournament after it is finished.
11-23-2009, 08:08 AM
HattonTheHammer

Re: The Super Six is nearly dead. Fact.

We`ve now gone from having 3 potential winners to 4 in the space of one fight

The main man and favourite to win has just been TKO`d, even calzaghe couldnt do that

The upcoming fights see arguably the top 2 in the division squaring off, andre dirrell flying over to the mother land in a fight he has to win against an unbeaten AA and taylor in complete last chance saloon squares off against the most impressive of the 6fighters so far

I really cant see how exactly this could be dead already??
11-23-2009, 08:20 AM
Fenster

Re: The Super Six is nearly dead. Fact.

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

We`ve now gone from having 3 potential winners to 4 in the space of one fight

The main man and favourite to win has just been TKO`d, even calzaghe couldnt do that

The upcoming fights see arguably the top 2 in the division squaring off, andre dirrell flying over to the mother land in a fight he has to win against an unbeaten AA and taylor in complete last chance saloon squares off against the most impressive of the 6fighters so far

I really cant see how exactly this could be dead already??

Abraham-Dirrell is in the States. Dirrell has already said he'll never again fight outside America.

Taylor needs to retire. And probably will. He's lost 4 of his last 5 fights and been badly KO'd in three. The Ward fight is pointless.

And lets not start making Ward into something he's not. Kessler was stopped by headbuts tearing his face apart. The fight wasn't stopped through damage Ward did with his fists. ;)

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